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Author Topic: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA  (Read 1266168 times)
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July 13, 2014, 12:39:59 AM
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Unfortunately after doing a bit of digging it looks like there are member of the cloak community who have been actively fudding and starting shitfights in other threads. Looks like we are just getting a massive dose of karma. Thanks dickheads.

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July 13, 2014, 01:02:17 AM
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Unfortunately after doing a bit of digging it looks like there are member of the cloak community who have been actively fudding and starting shitfights in other threads. Looks like we are just getting a massive dose of karma. Thanks dickheads.

Support cloak here, not in other communities.

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July 13, 2014, 01:17:28 AM
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Hard fork coming soon!  Make sure you're on the latest wallets!
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July 13, 2014, 01:19:45 AM
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Less than 100 blocks for pos patch to kick in!
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July 13, 2014, 01:20:16 AM
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Hard fork coming soon!  Make sure you're on the latest wallets!
Can I let my wallet open and stake during the fork?

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July 13, 2014, 01:33:26 AM
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Hard fork coming soon!  Make sure you're on the latest wallets!
Can I let my wallet open and stake during the fork?

Yes you can.

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July 13, 2014, 01:39:05 AM
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Hard fork coming soon!  Make sure you're on the latest wallets!
Can I let my wallet open and stake during the fork?

Yes you can.

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July 13, 2014, 01:52:09 AM
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Dumb question. How do i stake? I have the coins in the new wallet but theres no box to check for pos like in one of the pictures here.
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July 13, 2014, 02:05:32 AM
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Dumb question. How do i stake? I have the coins in the new wallet but theres no box to check for pos like in one of the pictures here.

Just by unlocking your wallet.
The POS patch will come into effect on Block 59860.

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July 13, 2014, 02:15:14 AM
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Dumb question. How do i stake? I have the coins in the new wallet but theres no box to check for pos like in one of the pictures here.

Click Unlock Wallet.   You will then be prompted for your password.  You will also see a check box that says "For Staking Only".  Make sure that is checked.  Thats all!  If you hover over the Cloak icon in the lower right hand corner, it will tell you if you are minting or not.

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July 13, 2014, 02:23:59 AM
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I am one of the devs working on OneMarket.

In order for OneMarket to work nicely an encrypted messaging system needs to be in place so customers can ask merchants questions in a secure, safe, and decentralized way.  I have to think this out carefully and early while designing the system.  So I've come to the community to double check some concepts I'm trying.

So while working on OneMarket and after reading the BitMessage Paper, I've come up with a bit of a hybrid for encrypted messaging.  This is not official and work in progress but curious on everyones thoughts so far? I want to see if anyone can see any particular flaws.

Some ideas inspired from here (https://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf)

Utilizing TOR and PoSA Security Layer all messages will mask the originating IP Address while submitting listings.

Every OneMarket participant will have a public address (tied to a public key and private key).  When you put up a listing it will generate a random public key and private key tied to the listing for you.  So every listing will generate a new public key/private key pair.

The public key is visible for all to see.  When someone wants to send the listee a message, they use the listees public key to encrypt the message.

Only the listee can decrypt the message at that point since he has the private key.

Even the sender can not read the message anymore.

Messages are stored in a separate message ledger from the main block chain in encrypted format with no mention to whom sent it or who receives it and stored on all the participating nodes in the network.  This is important so that no message can be tied to any particular public address.

To decrypt the message, the listee simply attempts to decrypt every message in the database until one of the decryptions works and they receive the message.  This process can take seconds early on to maybe only a couple of minutes if the system gets widely used (say 100,000 messages in the ledger).

Like wise they can send a message back using the address of the person who contacted them using their public key to encrypt their message.

Finally to prevent spamming the network, a 3-4 day time limit on the messages is imposed before they get deleted and a small fee of cloak will be charged as well and go to the miners as an incentive to leave their computers on to store the messages.

This is a rough draft concept, any thoughts are appreciated!
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July 13, 2014, 02:50:47 AM
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This sounds awesome! I will check out the links now. Thanks for your bringing this to the community to share! That's really cool!
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July 13, 2014, 02:52:04 AM
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Hi Joe,

Logically it sounds like it would definitely work and looks really well thought out to keep anonymity during encrypted messaging.  
My only concern is about the decrypting of every single message (for 3-4 days whatever the timeout is) to see which works.  For some people, 3-4 days isn't long enough and I can see this being extremely taxing if many users are checking and sending messages.  When Cloak gets really big it sounds inefficient.

Unfortunately, I have no proposed solution of my own but if some idea comes up I'll make sure to post it.
About the fees, were you thinking to have a fee per message?  

I have a lot of questions about how an actual purchase or transaction would work in OneMarket, as well as the reputation system but I'll save those for when more information is out.

Also, thanks for taking time and giving us a dev prescence on the forums so we can ask about development progress.
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July 13, 2014, 02:57:12 AM
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So fork with POS fix seems to have happened without a hitch. POSA time coming ! Should release the vulnerability info on POS now ?

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July 13, 2014, 03:19:19 AM
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So fork with POS fix seems to have happened without a hitch. POSA time coming ! Should release the vulnerability info on POS now ?

yes please do. 
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July 13, 2014, 03:19:32 AM
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Latest OSX Wallet on Mavericks 10.9.2 did not go on the right fork from what I can tell.  It was stuck somewhere around block 5905 or so.  Would not sync, restarted multiple times.  I deleted blockchain data and database, and now its syncing again.

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July 13, 2014, 03:21:02 AM
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Hmmm this pos thing is pretty cool. I guess it's time to buy more!
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July 13, 2014, 03:23:12 AM
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Hmmm this pos thing is pretty cool. I guess it's time to buy more!

I would hurry. Word will be out soon. I have no more BTC else I be off buying too. All in Cloak.

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July 13, 2014, 03:26:26 AM
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So fork with POS fix seems to have happened without a hitch. POSA time coming ! Should release the vulnerability info on POS now ?

are you just teasing us , or do you actually plan to release the vulnerability ? 
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July 13, 2014, 03:27:09 AM
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Latest OSX Wallet on Mavericks 10.9.2 did not go on the right fork from what I can tell.  It was stuck somewhere around block 5905 or so.  Would not sync, restarted multiple times.  I deleted blockchain data and database, and now its syncing again.

OSX version is working on my my end

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