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[Coolstoryteller]

LULZ! My ego banter....

So you personally drove the price from 30k to 90k? Cool story bro. What kind of overinflated ego do you have, you insecure dolt? Theres not reason for me to say how much money Ive made. No I have not coded, and I am a complete noob at any of that. I only invest. But nobody really cares about that so I wont bore you.

Ive been a cloak supporter from the beginning. I bought in at 12-30k and have bought and sold during the waves, and will continue to do so. That doesnt mean I stopped or will stop supporting it. One thing I do know is when the whales and pumpers begin their tweeting campaigns, thats usually a sign to jump ship for the time being. Just my experience. Dunno why that last post offended you. If Im wrong about my analysis, then Ill apologize to you since you were clearly offended there. lulz!

No you're implying that the demand for Cloak dropped due to a lost of interest, some shady situation or an inferior product. I'm saying it dropped because I made it drop. Too many weakass holders were in and they needed to be weeded out. A coin can only go as far as it's investors think it will; Moreover, when there's too many weaklings invested they jump ship at the first sign of a price increase. Real investors are looking at all the factors that make up a real coin not just a tweet.

The ignorance of your post offends me because you're making baseless accusations about developer delays. You don't understand what it takes to build a product yet you somehow have an opinion on it. That's what offends me. Do you homework before you post some useless information with absolutely zero evidence or experience to back up your claim.

Dude if you dont think whales and the pumpers control this coin right now you are a fool. They control most of these emerging coins. And I wasnt implying anything about the demand or the development of Cloak. You seem to hear what you want to hear.

I simply go by the hype/news in correlation to the charts and depth charts. It has paid the bills so far. Depth chart says it might go as high as 190 before it inevitably dumps and price corrects. That is why I put  my orders from 130-180. I could be wrong, where it just shoots through the roof and I am left behind after underselling. Or I could be right and it reaches that range then it dips after a correction. Either way Im happy, and dont really care. But dont twist my words and start talking about development.

Check it out. I said I dropped the coin from 90k sat to 30k sat not the reverse which would be a pump. Show me a chart that predicted that drop. I saw the value in the coin and realized the large amount of weak holders in the coin needed to be weeded out which is exactly what happened. Smart investors did the same thing they are the ones in the drivers seat right now. Show me a chart that predicted I would do that and it will be my new god.

I hear what you type. You said the price of PoSA is baked in.. I'm asking you what you are using to gauge what the price of trustless anon should be at since I'm basing mine off of DRK and their promise of trustless anon. That alone almost took DRK to the $20 mark. The reason it didn't go higher was because of their failed implementation. It happened twice and investor confidence went out the window.

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[cryptoholic11]

    Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol

If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread.

EDIT. @coolstoryteller. Bro the 90-30 drop was right after it hit MintPal. I remember that because I sold at 80-93 and rebought maybe a week later at 40-50. Stop lying to yourself man. Those drops happen to every coin that gets listed on MintPal and sees an initial pump.

[Coolstoryteller]

    Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol

If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread.

This is exactly why you will never make money in the crypto trade. You don't see the market potential and just look at coins as a quick pump. There is an entire deepweb market looking for an alternative to Bitcoin to conduct their business in private. If you don't think there is a market their take a look at how much BTC was seized from the Silk Road and that is just one deepweb market.

[Coolstoryteller]

    Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol

If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread.

EDIT. @coolstoryteller. Bro the 90-30 drop was right after it hit MintPal. I remember that because I sold at 80-93 and rebought maybe a week later at 40-50. Stop lying to yourself man. Those drops happen to every coin that gets listed on MintPal and sees an initial pump.

Yes, right after which took me 48+ hours with minimal sleep to do. I couldn't even leave my computer for more then 5 mins else the price would go up 5-10k sat.

[cryptoholic11]

    Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol

If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread.

This is exactly why you will never make money in the crypto trade. You don't see the market potential and just look at coins as a quick pump. There is an entire deepweb market looking for an alternative to Bitcoin to conduct their business in private. If you don't think there is a market their take a look at how much BTC was seized from the Silk Road and that is just one deepweb market.

Once again your hearing what you want to hear. Why are you bringing up irrelevant points. Of course there is a market, but the point Im trying to make right now is that these Alts are more or less manipulated to bring in more BTC. Eventually one altcoin will break through the mold and get wide adoption, but until then, its just whale games for the big guys.

[tubesteak]

    Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol

If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread.

EDIT. @coolstoryteller. Bro the 90-30 drop was right after it hit MintPal. I remember that because I sold at 80-93 and rebought maybe a week later at 40-50. Stop lying to yourself man. Those drops happen to every coin that gets listed on MintPal and sees an initial pump.

I'm far from being a "fool", Funny little catfish.

[pookielax31]

CoolStory Bro..... some of the idiots on the forum just will never get it all u can do is laugh at them we will be LULZing when PoSA drops and no1 sells and it rises fast 

[cryptoholic11]

    Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol

If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread.

This is exactly why you will never make money in the crypto trade. You don't see the market potential and just look at coins as a quick pump. There is an entire deepweb market looking for an alternative to Bitcoin to conduct their business in private. If you don't think there is a market their take a look at how much BTC was seized from the Silk Road and that is just one deepweb market.

Once again your hearing what you want to hear. Why are you bringing up irrelevant points. Of course there is a market, but the point Im trying to make right now is that these Alts are more or less manipulated to bring in more BTC. Eventually one altcoin will break through the mold and get wide adoption, but until then, its just whale games for the big guys.

The points are responses to your claims. I know for a fact that the major holders of this coin aren't going to dump any time soon. Most of us believe this coin should be in the the $40+ range. Any manipulation is being done on the lowest level by small time day traders.

Yes I agree. I happen to believe Cloak will eventually be in the top 5 if not 3 on CMC. But until then there will be dips and corrections, and I happent to think that we're do for one now. Im wrong then so be it, I undersold and will probably buy back at another dip for more. If Im right I buy back more coins for less. Either way Im not complaining. BTW i wasnt claiming anything, they were merely opinions and my own analysis which people can either credit or discredit. You're making claims by saying you single handedly moved the market at one point, which is a tough pill to swallow. In any case if you did, I appreciate it, because you made me a lot of money.

[Coolstoryteller]

CoolStory Bro..... some of the idiots on the forum just will never get it all u can do is laugh at them we will be LULZing when PoSA drops and no1 sells and it rises fast 

xD

[heartastack]

CoolStory Bro..... some of the idiots on the forum just will never get it all u can do is laugh at them we will be LULZing when PoSA drops and no1 sells and it rises fast  

PoSA was meant to 'drop' tomorrow (14 days ago). Where's the reason to laugh?

[grainfromrain]

To be honest I'm a little disappointed to hear about "regulations" in OneMarket.  I thought the idea was a decentralized "anything goes" type market.  You can't control what people do with it.  The beauty is unlike a hidden Tor site, you cannot shut it down.  Even hidden Tor services have a single point of seizure (server), but OneMarket would not live in any one place, like the blockchain.  You would not be able to arrest the cloak team because they aren't actually hosting anything, no one is. This = freedom from censorship and rules.  

If you ban illegal drugs, I'm sorry but you are missing out on millions of dollars of Cloak that could be transacted per year.  Why have an elaborate anonymous marketplace if I'm buying PS4?  I think the key thing here is freedom, freedom to buy and sell what we please in a place that cannot be controlled by an entity.  People can already buy/sell illegal things anonymously without OneMarket

It's a tough spot to be in though, because I do disagree with illegal drugs, child porn, guns, etc.  But I will be showing my disagreement by not buying and supporting sellers thay sell these things with OneMarket.

It's easy for you to say this, as you are not going to be the one going to prison for making this.  And I am getting the general vibe that many people here want OneMarket to be the new Silk Road.  This is really dangerous for the developers, guys.

I see your point, however isn't that like arresting someone that created some video editing software because someone else used it to edit child porn?  The software itself isn't doing anything illegal, the people using it would be. The Devs are not selling anything illegal, nor are they profiting from it if the listing fees go to the miners, nor are they hosting it like a website or something.

OneMarket could have the option of "blocking" certain listings from being viewed by the user.  If I don't want to see illegal drugs on OneMarket, I can simply block that category or key word and my OneMarket experience will be like those listings never existed

Isnt this what happened to Ross tho?

[heartastack]

Depth chart still looks sickening too. Sure there are people buying in spurts, but there is no support base. Thank god nobody is selling cheap.
Where's fukin PoSA? What's the fuss about atm. There's just no other hot Alts atm the market is bored and desperate for value. Need PoSA soon. I would release a buggy version and just fix it as we go. Need some proof of concept.

Have not seen a post by Dagger in 2 days. We were half this price when they were doing videos, logo comps and shit that involved everyone.

[Coolstoryteller]

To be honest I'm a little disappointed to hear about "regulations" in OneMarket.  I thought the idea was a decentralized "anything goes" type market.  You can't control what people do with it.  The beauty is unlike a hidden Tor site, you cannot shut it down.  Even hidden Tor services have a single point of seizure (server), but OneMarket would not live in any one place, like the blockchain.  You would not be able to arrest the cloak team because they aren't actually hosting anything, no one is. This = freedom from censorship and rules.  

If you ban illegal drugs, I'm sorry but you are missing out on millions of dollars of Cloak that could be transacted per year.  Why have an elaborate anonymous marketplace if I'm buying PS4?  I think the key thing here is freedom, freedom to buy and sell what we please in a place that cannot be controlled by an entity.  People can already buy/sell illegal things anonymously without OneMarket

It's a tough spot to be in though, because I do disagree with illegal drugs, child porn, guns, etc.  But I will be showing my disagreement by not buying and supporting sellers thay sell these things with OneMarket.

It's easy for you to say this, as you are not going to be the one going to prison for making this.  And I am getting the general vibe that many people here want OneMarket to be the new Silk Road.  This is really dangerous for the developers, guys.

I see your point, however isn't that like arresting someone that created some video editing software because someone else used it to edit child porn?  The software itself isn't doing anything illegal, the people using it would be. The Devs are not selling anything illegal, nor are they profiting from it if the listing fees go to the miners, nor are they hosting it like a website or something.

OneMarket could have the option of "blocking" certain listings from being viewed by the user.  If I don't want to see illegal drugs on OneMarket, I can simply block that category or key word and my OneMarket experience will be like those listings never existed

Isnt this what happened to Ross tho?

AFAIK, Ross was allegedly was playing a role in the distribution side of things. There were some talks about his journal entries containing things like "Paid off the Aryan brotherhood today."

[bitcad4u]

Depth chart still looks sickening too. Sure there are people buying in spurts, but there is no support base. Thank god nobody is selling cheap.
Where's fukin PoSA? What's the fuss about atm. There's just no other hot Alts atm the market is bored and desperate for value. Need PoSA soon. I would release a buggy version and just fix it as we go. Need some proof of concept.

Have not seen a post by Dagger in 2 days. We were half this price when they were doing videos, logo comps and shit that involved everyone.

dude... 2 days... oh no... think of this... it took the microsoft team like 10 years to deliver windows 7.  Your mad its taking "days" to get a revolutionary new concept added to a block chain. 

chilllllax.  good things take time. 

[zing96]

Depth chart still looks sickening too. Sure there are people buying in spurts, but there is no support base. Thank god nobody is selling cheap.
Where's fukin PoSA? What's the fuss about atm. There's just no other hot Alts atm the market is bored and desperate for value. Need PoSA soon. I would release a buggy version and just fix it as we go. Need some proof of concept.

Have not seen a post by Dagger in 2 days. We were half this price when they were doing videos, logo comps and shit that involved everyone.

dude... 2 days... oh no... think of this... it took the microsoft team like 10 years to deliver windows 7.  Your mad its taking "days" to get a revolutionary new concept added to a block chain. 

chilllllax.  good things take time. 

I heard on IRC that he was, for all intents and purposes, resting today (not because he wanted to).  Not sure if that meant he was sick or what, but it sounded like staying up all days and nights with this coin for the past month finally caught up with him.

[tylerderden]

Depth chart still looks sickening too. Sure there are people buying in spurts, but there is no support base. Thank god nobody is selling cheap.
Where's fukin PoSA? What's the fuss about atm. There's just no other hot Alts atm the market is bored and desperate for value. Need PoSA soon. I would release a buggy version and just fix it as we go. Need some proof of concept.

Have not seen a post by Dagger in 2 days. We were half this price when they were doing videos, logo comps and shit that involved everyone.

dude... 2 days... oh no... think of this... it took the microsoft team like 10 years to deliver windows 7.  Your mad its taking "days" to get a revolutionary new concept added to a block chain. 

chilllllax.  good things take time. 

no doubt man, that's true of pretty much every game or other software that has ever been contemplated. Only way to know if it works is to test, dont get the results you want, change it and test again. trial and error and all that shit. The Dev's are still here and talking to people, that's usually a pretty good sign in this market.

[smokim87]

Depth chart still looks sickening too. Sure there are people buying in spurts, but there is no support base. Thank god nobody is selling cheap.
Where's fukin PoSA? What's the fuss about atm. There's just no other hot Alts atm the market is bored and desperate for value. Need PoSA soon. I would release a buggy version and just fix it as we go. Need some proof of concept.

Have not seen a post by Dagger in 2 days. We were half this price when they were doing videos, logo comps and shit that involved everyone.

dude... 2 days... oh no... think of this... it took the microsoft team like 10 years to deliver windows 7.  Your mad its taking "days" to get a revolutionary new concept added to a block chain. 

chilllllax.  good things take time. 

no doubt man, that's true of pretty much every game or other software that has ever been contemplated. Only way to know if it works is to test, dont get the results you want, change it and test again. trial and error and all that shit. The Dev's are still here and talking to people, that's usually a pretty good sign in this market.

Devs are not always posting in this thread but are always online in the IRC, they've been in the IRC everyday and chatting with the community. Try joining the IRC if you want to hear from them more

[Coolstoryteller]

Alright guys thanks to everyone that donated! I just sent out 5BTC worth of Cloak to the PR firm that will be handling our Advertising/PR/media distribution for the next month. We'll have a well timed PR distro for PoSA, OneMarket, HitBTC USD/Cloak pairing and any other milestone we reach. In addition, targeted ads buys through Google/Facebook.

Anyone looking to help out - feel free to join Cloaktalk and give some ideas on how to we can further penetrate the market.

If you have any Cloaks to donate to the cause visit the the Marketing Fund thread on Cloaktalk for the addresses.

http://www.cloaktalk.org/t/cloak-marketing-fund/92


Thanks!

[AcidSplash]

OneMarket is nothing special at all, anybody can create a classifieds website to list items for X coin, and have a script into the wallet displaying the listings on the website...it piece of cake and nothing special...the real problem with something like this is the incentive to use such a thing... why should I sell my things for cloakcoin, this is the real question...I can sell them directly for Bitcoin in the near future on eBay...

Year after year the fee's for selling items on Ebay has become even more and more ridiculous. I'd venture to say that people are tired of paying Ebay fee's and Paypal fee's. Ebay is a greedy company. And every move that they have made has been out of greed and for profit. They've cut off 3rd party payment processors and have forced people to pay using Paypal. Would I sell my items for cloakcoin? Absolutely. Because even if Ebay implements Bitcoin they will just add in an additional fee.

[tarzanbigcity]

Hey guys, perhaps we can rally some people here for support for PIMP support on the nvidia platform. You can donate to the dev here. I love mining x13 coins but running nvidia miners on windows can be a bit buggy at times. Lets get some support behind these guys for us nvidia peeps.

http://www.getpimp.org/features.html

3) develop and release pimp nvidia   17FEj7UEwH32PadCtWnyAS5hGYv7f99Lki   Jun 14th   0.23   2.00   1.77   11%

They are currently only 11% funded. But with our support perhaps we can complete that goal. I for one love the pimp platform and I think bringing it to nvidia would be a godsend.