updated no bounty for pointing out logic mistakes on this thread.

[no-ice-please]

Updated. The original bounty on this thread is finished.
Now I'll pay 20 hbn to each person who is first to bring to my attention any error of fact I made in my posts.
I know I've made several, incuding the number of roommates and the fact that Met's shower area may not have been a common area used by all roommates. The first post that points out an error is paid.

In addition there is still a 200hbn bounty for anyone who finds real evidence in any of the news articles that shows Met is. guilty. There is a fairly high standard for this proof, it cannot just be "it seems possible he might have done it". The main proof I am aware of is posted on the bounty thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=645898.0   The bounty is for adding something meaningful to the discussion, not for whining about the standard of proof the bounty requires.

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A fellow recently was sentenced to life in prison without the chance of parole for an extremely violent murder of a young child. The bounty is for anyone who can explain the evidence against this person in a way that will help me understand that he is guilty beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt.

I will pay the bounty to the best answer and will pay it to someone even if no one can find a reasonable answer. A hundred hobonickels isn't much, about ten us dollars, not sure how much it is in european pesos or any others.

The person is Esar Met and here is a start on looking for the evidence that convinced the judge and jury he was guilty.

He is a Burmese refuggee who speaks no English. He was living with three other refugees in Utah. He was friendly with a neighbor's child, who was later violently murdered. The forensic people said the violence of the attack was extreme.

He used to give piggyback rides to the victim and other children, called 'elephant rides'by Burmese. The victim had a cut on her finger at some point, the parent's of the victim said, and it seems likely some of the blood from this cut got on the back of Mr Met's jacket.

Additionally there were microscopic traces of dna from Mr Met under the fingernails of the child. This seems more consistent with horseplay than violence. Most people will have microscopic traces of dna under their nails of people they have been in close physical contact with.



Other evidence seems even weaker, but as I said, anyone who simply trirs to help me understand the evidence that convinced the judge and jury is eligible for the bounty.

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[vokain]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court

the best narrative wins, from my "Decision-Making and the Brain" class

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/juryseminar/storymodel.html
^not from the class I took, but from a google search for "the story model"

framing and perception management go a long way

[Ron~Popeil]

DNA under her finger nails establishes physical contact and blood on his jacket establishes the fact that she was bleeding in his presence. The possible injuries the accused has on his body indicate he has been in a violent altercation. In the eyes of a jury these facts are rather damning. It is unlikely in their minds that all of these circumstances just coincidentally occurred at the same time as the murder.

I don't know the details of the case but people have been convicted with far less evidence.     

[vokain]

who was Mr. Met's lawyer?

[hilariousandco]

who was Mr. Met's lawyer?

Probably not a good one. Was all this evidence you provided not brought up in court?

Edit. Reading up on the case she was found in his apartment with blood all the place. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542689/Esar-Met-guilty-killing-Hser-Ner-Moo-7.html

I suppose it all depends on how much blood was found under his nails and how long after the murder, but can people confirm that he used to play around with her?

[5flags]

who was Mr. Met's lawyer?

Probably not a good one. Was all this evidence you provided not brought up in court?

[vokain]

What was Mr. Met's alibi/testimony to events? I understand that English is not his strong suit.

[hilariousandco]

The accused is an observant Muslim, he follows the rules of his religion, such as not eating pork.

Oh well, that changes everything - not guilty. Do you have an agenda here? Are you implying that they found him guilty because he was a Muslim and not a Christian? 

[hilariousandco]

They may or may not have been hostile towards him, but what are you suggesting by this?

[hilariousandco]

Who are you suggesting did it then? Possibly one of the three Christian guys or somebody else? Did his aunt and Uncle give him an alibi or was there still a timeframe when he could have committed the murder as well?

[RodeoX]

So in addition to the blood and nail scrape, the body was found in his apartment and he has no alibi? If he's not guilty, I hope he has a good lawyer.

[hilariousandco]

Being nice to children doesn't mean anything really. It's called grooming when paedophiles do it. So are you saying you believe it was more likely one of the other three just because they didn't like him?

[vokain]

Being nice to children doesn't mean anything really. It's called grooming when paedophiles do it. So are you saying you believe it was more likely one of the other three just because they didn't like him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming

[hilariousandco]

Yes, I've read some but I can't say whether he or anyone else did it because I haven't got access to all the available evidence. And what evidence do you require? Aside from video evidence of the actual killing you probably couldn't ever say 100% what happened.  You could have three peope say they saw you murder somebody and the police find your clothes covered in blood with fingerprints all over the weapon, but that can all be easily fabricated. You have to go with the available evidence. Do I think there's enough here to convict him? I don't know. Can you tell me what evidence points to his innocence though?

[hilariousandco]

You ignorantly assume quite a lot. I'm not American and I never said being nice to children makes you a paedo. You used this as if it's a case for his innocence. And grooming is used to gain trust whether to abuse or abuse and kill. You haven't pointed out any likely evidence of his innocence at all, just that you think he is unlikely to have done it based on no solid evidencel. You seem to be doing the exact opposite of what you're complaining about. It's a good job you're not the psychologist in trials. And were the time cards the only evidence? It's a little bit different if their boss and fellow employees all confirm their alibi and there's CCTV evidence or whatever to corroborate that. Where did they all work exactly?

[vokain]

if I was on the jury I couldn't send a man to prison for life without certain evidence. too circumstantial and not substantial enough. but that's just me

[hilariousandco]

No jury should ever convict on circumstantial evidence and should be beyond all reasonable doubt of guilt.

[vokain]

i thought you were talking about these hobo nickels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo_nickel

[Ron~Popeil]

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I hope your friend finds justice. Unfortunately most of the time in the US you innocent until proven indigent.

[Pente]

I think you mean to explain his conviction. To be concise I will say: Overwhelming circumstancial evidence and lack of a corroborated alibi.

Now to be more wordy:

I have read hundreds of criminal trial transcripts and use to help inmates to file appeals. I haven't read the trial transcript in this case, so my opinion is very provisional and I reserve the right to change it after reading the transcript and police reports (especially concerning the alibis of the roommates).

The girl was obviously assaulted by a sexually frustrated male that was unable to complete the act, then murdered her to cover his identity.

I can see that the prosecution worked very hard to make sure that the jury would be heavily swayed by emotion. Not a good sign by itself.

I would question the DNA evidence under his fingernails. Some labs have been known to fabricate evidence if they feel the person was guilty. Finding DNA there, just seems very convenient. But then he is a foreigner and was probably ignorant about cleaning his hands of DNA.

I hope the alibis of the roommates was heavily corroborated. The police report would be important for that.

That being said, I strongly suspect that he is guilty. Girl's body found at his place, roommates with an alibi. The only alternative would be if he was gone and somebody else decided to bring her to his place. I find this idea of a stranger using his room to commit the crime to be preposterous. Regardless, in that unusual case he would have an alibi.

Which is why the transcript is so important. I want to hear his alibi. Does it make sense? Is it corroborated?

I tend to be very skeptical of evidence (about 20% of the trial transcripts I read, I would have voted "not guilty"), but I have a gut feeling that I would have found him guilty if I was on this jury.