[ANN][VOOT] OLD THREAD

[minairia3]

Shame on you dev! Your childish behavior last night made me form an entirely new opinion of you. You shouldn't even be in another coin's thread. You should be focusing 100% on development of your own coin and its investors. I respected you and was heavily invested into VOOT holding strong all the way from the days of 450 satoshi until last night. I refuse to support a dev like that no matter what the price does. I'M OUT. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668876.1420

Which part of that was nonfactual?  If it was all facts exposing a scam, then I think it's everyone's duty in the forum to do so.  The dev just isn't into Voot you know?

How about the part where he said the coin was dead? The fud only starts on that page and carries on for two more pages. If dev has the time to be in other coin's threads, then he should be putting that time into further development of his own coin. It is NOT a dev's civic duty to go around exposing so called "scams", we have enough trolls here for that. I wish the best for those of you who remain invested in this coin. But I for one refuse to support a dev who exhibits such childish behavior.  

Please quote the post where he said the coin was "dead".  I think your behavior now is quite childish....   It's like "you told on my friend, I am not your friend any more! so there!"...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668876.1440 No it is not the same as that. It is about the principle which some of us investors still highly value.

dude how many people have lost on scam coins. its just anger your releasing. our dev pointed it out before it went to more ridiculously prices where people would have lost more

Scam coins are one thing. However, there is NO PROOF yet that ROX is a scam.

Maybe it is, maybe not... but from the looks of it, everything is adding up. Check their recent twitter post... hmmm... IT HAS SCAM WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

The fact that they are posting on twitter tells me that they are still here and haven't disappeared. If this were a scam, wouldn't they be gone by now? Also it seems they are doing a great job so far of rectifying the situation. It is fair to give them until the time they have stated to come up with proof. If they do come up with proof, where does that leave VOOT dev?

Thanks for all information now you can go back to your community 

If roxcoin unscams itself it just means that the voot dev wasn't correct.  No more no less.  Everything points to roxcoin being a ripoff; it stinks to high heaven.  Still, they could actually have something fantastic that they'll release tonight.  With their fake websites, etc. they condemned themselves to all of the FUD but that be reversed with a success.

[MsCollec]

Hey, Smoke team will post the whitepaper in few hours.

[Lowkek]

Thank you based smoke team

[damiano]

http://btc38.com/altcoin/voot/

[computerparts]

Shame on you dev! Your childish behavior last night made me form an entirely new opinion of you. You shouldn't even be in another coin's thread. You should be focusing 100% on development of your own coin and its investors. I respected you and was heavily invested into VOOT holding strong all the way from the days of 450 satoshi until last night. I refuse to support a dev like that no matter what the price does. I'M OUT. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668876.1420

Which part of that was nonfactual?  If it was all facts exposing a scam, then I think it's everyone's duty in the forum to do so.  The dev just isn't into Voot you know?

How about the part where he said the coin was dead? The fud only starts on that page and carries on for two more pages. If dev has the time to be in other coin's threads, then he should be putting that time into further development of his own coin. It is NOT a dev's civic duty to go around exposing so called "scams", we have enough trolls here for that. I wish the best for those of you who remain invested in this coin. But I for one refuse to support a dev who exhibits such childish behavior.  

Please quote the post where he said the coin was "dead".  I think your behavior now is quite childish....   It's like "you told on my friend, I am not your friend any more! so there!"...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668876.1440 No it is not the same as that. It is about the principle which some of us investors still highly value.

dude how many people have lost on scam coins. its just anger your releasing. our dev pointed it out before it went to more ridiculously prices where people would have lost more

Scam coins are one thing. However, there is NO PROOF yet that ROX is a scam.

Maybe it is, maybe not... but from the looks of it, everything is adding up. Check their recent twitter post... hmmm... IT HAS SCAM WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

The fact that they are posting on twitter tells me that they are still here and haven't disappeared. If this were a scam, wouldn't they be gone by now? Also it seems they are doing a great job so far of rectifying the situation. It is fair to give them until the time they have stated to come up with proof. If they do come up with proof, where does that leave VOOT dev?

Thanks for all information now you can go back to your community  

If roxcoin unscams itself it just means that the voot dev wasn't correct.  No more no less.  Everything points to roxcoin being a ripoff; it stinks to high heaven.  Still, they could actually have something fantastic that they'll release tonight.  With their fake websites, etc. they condemned themselves to all of the FUD but that be reversed with a success.

So if ROX pulls through, it just means VOOT dev was incorrect even though he caused many people to lose a lot of money for no reason? You can't be serious. I'm sure there are many people out there that would be very angry for such false accusations that accumulated to their loss. Just know that is the type of dev you are supporting.

[Coinasaur]

So if ROX pulls through, it just means VOOT dev was incorrect even though he caused many people to lose a lot of money for no reason? You can't be serious. I'm sure there are many people out there that would be very angry for such false accusations that accumulated to their loss. Just know that is the type of dev you are supporting.

Ive been staying out of this but can you site a specific example or prove that it caused "many people to lose a lot of money" If it was FUD like you claim then it should not have caused any loss of monies for anyone. Unless youre a weak hand panic selling. In which case you deserve to lose money.

[MsCollec]

I asked Roxcoin questions and he refused to answer but instead went to twitter and make these statements

ROXCoin @ROXCoin  ·  2h
*Update*
The TextJamz site spoiler was indeed a copied source from a no longer member of the team. Team #ROX apologizes on their behalf.
https://twitter.com/ROXCoin/status/486405388661964800

ROXCoin @ROXCoin  ·  2h
*Update* Again to reiterate, members whom committed foul play have been removed. Our books showcase stabilization. Stay tuned for updates.
https://twitter.com/ROXCoin/status/486409796783198208

@ROXCoin  ·  4m
We remain intact to our passion with music and crypto. If we have damaged your trust, we understand, actions of a few damaged reputation.
https://twitter.com/ROXCoin/status/486433062897852416

[Soul_eater_123]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

[Coinasaur]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

how is it FUD if ROX came out and apologized for it? Sounds like truth was being told and they had to issue a statement to try to keep you guys in ROX longer so they can get out before you do... Seen this 100 times already

[MsCollec]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

Whether you like or not, this account is also for personal use.

[minairia3]

So if ROX pulls through, it just means VOOT dev was incorrect even though he caused many people to lose a lot of money for no reason? You can't be serious. I'm sure there are many people out there that would be very angry for such false accusations that accumulated to their loss. Just know that is the type of dev you are supporting.

Ive been staying out of this but can you site a specific example or prove that it caused "many people to lose a lot of money" If it was FUD like you claim then it should not have caused any loss of monies for anyone. Unless youre a weak hand panic selling. In which case you deserve to lose money.

Take a look though the roxcoin thread; there was major sketchiness going on that pointed to a giant scam.  If they're not running a scam then they need to be put in jail for abject failure to communicate and complete unprofessionalism.  Every coin gets  a FUD attack when it goes big.  It is a given.  How the devs handle the FUD is a sign of how good a team they are.

[cryptoholic11]

MsCollec, focus on your own coin. You dont see other devs going to other coins and creating drama. Whether its a scam or not should not be VootCoins business. Remember you represent VootCoin. If you were just an investor or a regular forum member that is different. But you are the main dev for Voot, you represent this coin, know your role. Dont ruin a good thing, just saying. Reputation is as valuable as the tech.

[BLACKCOIN883]

i think it shows of more character than some of these other people defending every scam possible..

rox looks and sounds like a scam ...dev opened his mouth, unlike most of the scum here on bct who  just keep talking shit to people who critique a coin..
gg mscollec.

[Soul_eater_123]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

how is it FUD if ROX came out and apologized for it? Sounds like truth was being told and they had to issue a statement to try to keep you guys in ROX longer so they can get out before you do... Seen this 100 times already

I don't have any ROX but if someone were behaving similarly to MsCollec here then people like yourself would be labelling them a FUDster.  Fact is MsCollec should be working on Vootcoin not acting as the cryptocoin police.  If he/she has enough time to make so many posts on another forum then something is not right.

[Soul_eater_123]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

Whether you like or not, this account is also for personal use.

Well that's very unprofessional then and I don't like it.  Voot is over for me due to your behaviour and serious lack of judgement.

[cryptoholic11]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

Whether you like or not, this account is also for personal use.

Well that's very unprofessional then and I don't like it.  Voot is over for me due to your behaviour and serious lack of judgement.

make that +2 and a bunch more on twitter. And the fact that Iconic Expert is a whale behind it, makes the decision easier. Good luck to you all.

[Soul_eater_123]

MsCollec, focus on your own coin. You dont see other devs going to other coins and creating drama. Whether its a scam or not should not be VootCoins business. Remember you represent VootCoin. If you were just an investor or a regular forum member that is different. But you are the main dev for Voot, you represent this coin, know your role. Dont ruin a good thing, just saying. Reputation is as valuable as the tech.

Absolutely agree here.  Once you are part of a coin's team you are in effect working for a company.  Everything you do (particularly under the same username) is a representation of that company and this just serves to devalue the integrity of Vootcoin.  Anyone who doesn't see that is in denial.  One of the biggest problems in crypto is the constant FUD and whether real or not a developer should not be involved in it.  If MsCollec comes out and accepts this is inappropriate that's fine and we can move on but I doubt he/she will.

[Coinasaur]

So if ROX pulls through, it just means VOOT dev was incorrect even though he caused many people to lose a lot of money for no reason? You can't be serious. I'm sure there are many people out there that would be very angry for such false accusations that accumulated to their loss. Just know that is the type of dev you are supporting.

Ive been staying out of this but can you site a specific example or prove that it caused "many people to lose a lot of money" If it was FUD like you claim then it should not have caused any loss of monies for anyone. Unless youre a weak hand panic selling. In which case you deserve to lose money.

Take a look though the roxcoin thread; there was major sketchiness going on that pointed to a giant scam.  If they're not running a scam then they need to be put in jail for abject failure to communicate and complete unprofessionalism.  Every coin gets  a FUD attack when it goes big.  It is a given.  How the devs handle the FUD is a sign of how good a team they are.

maybe i misread but i thought this person was claiming that MsCollec's information caused ROX holders to lose money... I was trying to say I believe what MsCollec said was correct and that computerparts was saying false accusations were made. Maybe I was reading something else out of it but either way my point was that it wasnt FUD since ROX admitted in their apology that it was all true... sorry for run on sentences

[damiano]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

Whether you like or not, this account is also for personal use.

Well that's very unprofessional then and I don't like it.  Voot is over for me due to your behaviour and serious lack of judgement.

I fail to see how its unprofessional.  The community needs to stay together in trying to identify scamcoins.  Every time one succeeds its a blow to the altcoin system in general

[Coinasaur]

I have to say it is disturbing to see MsCollec spending time creating FUD in other coin forums given what's happened here.  Whether ROX is a scam or not is irrelevant to developing features for VOOT.  Not only that it shows a serious lack of judgment.  I'm going to be reconsidering my investment in this coin.

how is it FUD if ROX came out and apologized for it? Sounds like truth was being told and they had to issue a statement to try to keep you guys in ROX longer so they can get out before you do... Seen this 100 times already

I don't have any ROX but if someone were behaving similarly to MsCollec here then people like yourself would be labelling them a FUDster.  Fact is MsCollec should be working on Vootcoin not acting as the cryptocoin police.  If he/she has enough time to make so many posts on another forum then something is not right.

NO, we should ALL be acting as the crypto police... ESPECIALLY OTHER DEVS  there are too many scams and devs can spot scams faster in code or in behavior a lot better than most since they have more experience than the average BTC talk user...