Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware

[Chef Ramsay]

http://www.kltv.com/story/25635541/gun-homicides-down-dramatically-americans-unaware

TYLER, TX (KLTV) -

It seems there is something in the news every day about gun violence. The recent mass shooting in Isla Vista, California, a movie theater riddled with bullets in Colorado, children and teachers gunned down at school in Connecticut, and the list goes on. While you may be seeing more and more shooting, the fact is, overall gun homicide rates have dropped dramatically over the past two decades, according to a recent study.

More than half of Americans believe gun violence has increased over the past two decades, but what you’re watching on the news, may be skewing your view.

That recent study said compared to 1993, the peak of US gun homicide, the rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, even though the population had grown. In other words, fewer people are dying by guns.

Assaults, robberies, and sex crimes also went down by 75 percent in 2011. Perhaps images from shooting crime scenes seem all too familiar, but perhaps the attention to gun violence in recent months has caused more Americans to be unaware that gun crimes are actually markedly lower than they were two decades ago.

There have been about two mass shootings per month in the US over the past five years, according to another report. A mass shooting is constituted as four deaths or more, but this study said each year less than one percent of gun homicides are from mass shootings. Between 1983 and 2012 there were 547 deaths from mass shootings. These shootings are highly publicized and the public is paying close attention.

“I don’t normally just read on it all the time, but when there’s a mass shooting or something like that and it’s big on the news, yes I do read about it and I take part in online debates and stuff,” Anna Katrina Pecson, a Tyler resident, said.

No story received more public attention from mid-March to early April 2013 than the debate over gun control. Though, seeing is believing, numbers don’t lie.

The study also noted more than half of gun-related deaths are suicides. Researchers aren’t sure why gun violence has gone down so drastically, but the study did note that the decline has slowed over the past decade compared to the rapid reduction in the 90’s.

Tell the MSM and the progressives to put that in their pipe and smoke it.
 
The actual study is at http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2013/05/firearms_final_05-2013.pdf

[bitsmichel]

http://www.kltv.com/story/25635541/gun-homicides-down-dramatically-americans-unaware

TYLER, TX (KLTV) -

It seems there is something in the news every day about gun violence. The recent mass shooting in Isla Vista, California, a movie theater riddled with bullets in Colorado, children and teachers gunned down at school in Connecticut, and the list goes on. While you may be seeing more and more shooting, the fact is, overall gun homicide rates have dropped dramatically over the past two decades, according to a recent study.

More than half of Americans believe gun violence has increased over the past two decades, but what you’re watching on the news, may be skewing your view.

That recent study said compared to 1993, the peak of US gun homicide, the rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, even though the population had grown. In other words, fewer people are dying by guns.

Assaults, robberies, and sex crimes also went down by 75 percent in 2011. Perhaps images from shooting crime scenes seem all too familiar, but perhaps the attention to gun violence in recent months has caused more Americans to be unaware that gun crimes are actually markedly lower than they were two decades ago.

There have been about two mass shootings per month in the US over the past five years, according to another report. A mass shooting is constituted as four deaths or more, but this study said each year less than one percent of gun homicides are from mass shootings. Between 1983 and 2012 there were 547 deaths from mass shootings. These shootings are highly publicized and the public is paying close attention.

“I don’t normally just read on it all the time, but when there’s a mass shooting or something like that and it’s big on the news, yes I do read about it and I take part in online debates and stuff,” Anna Katrina Pecson, a Tyler resident, said.

No story received more public attention from mid-March to early April 2013 than the debate over gun control. Though, seeing is believing, numbers don’t lie.

The study also noted more than half of gun-related deaths are suicides. Researchers aren’t sure why gun violence has gone down so drastically, but the study did note that the decline has slowed over the past decade compared to the rapid reduction in the 90’s.

Tell the MSM and the progressives to put that in their pipe and smoke it.
 
The actual study is at http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2013/05/firearms_final_05-2013.pdf

Interesting study. The strange thing about the statistic is that the firearms deaths seem to be stable around 10.2 - 10.3 for the last 10 years.

[jambola2]

The State of Fear is an excellent book :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear

There are many factual inaccuracies , but the main concept is that the government or any source of authority must use fear get power over people.

Even if there is no power or source of authority pushing fear into the minds of people , people tend to search for unknowns and get anxious over it or afraid of it. Here is an interesting article on the same idea.

Even if firearm deaths reduce , people will still try to use firearms as a focus for their fears and the government too will try to portray it as more than it is , in order to induce fear.

[beetcoin]

this is a prime example of how hypermedia can affect public thinking. they get to choose what we pay attention to. it seems like everybody is always complaining, no matter what times they live in, that things were better a long time ago.

[bryant.coleman]

In my opinion, the decline in the inner city population might have contributed a lot. There is significant migration of people from the crime-affected inner city areas to the more affluent suburbs. The suburbs mostly comprises of gated communities and well maintained residential associations, where the street gangs don't have much power.

[Charlie Prime]

The explosion of new laws allowing citizens to carry firearms concealed is a large factor in the crime drop over the last 10 years.

I'm old enough to remember the horror and gnashing of teeth when Concealed Carry was proposed in Texas.

The media assured us there would be gun battles in the streets every 15 minutes over contested parking spaces if filthy sinner humans were allowed to carry self-defense weapons.

The exact opposite happened.

[niothor]

The explosion of new laws allowing citizens to carry firearms concealed is a large factor in the crime drop over the last 10 years.

I'm old enough to remember the horror and gnashing of teeth when Concealed Carry was proposed in Texas.

The media assured us there would be gun battles in the streets every 15 minutes over contested parking spaces if filthy sinner humans were allowed to carry self-defense weapons.

The exact opposite happened.

Homicides rates:
 United States   4.8[9]
 Germany   0.8

Much more to come...

[bitsmichel]

The explosion of new laws allowing citizens to carry firearms concealed is a large factor in the crime drop over the last 10 years.

I'm old enough to remember the horror and gnashing of teeth when Concealed Carry was proposed in Texas.

The media assured us there would be gun battles in the streets every 15 minutes over contested parking spaces if filthy sinner humans were allowed to carry self-defense weapons.

The exact opposite happened.

Homicides rates:
 United States   4.8[9]
 Germany   0.8

Much more to come...

Compared to say Canada the homicide rate are much lower as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate  10.3 as compared Canada 2.38. Mexico has 11.17  and Australia 1.06

[niothor]

The explosion of new laws allowing citizens to carry firearms concealed is a large factor in the crime drop over the last 10 years.

I'm old enough to remember the horror and gnashing of teeth when Concealed Carry was proposed in Texas.

The media assured us there would be gun battles in the streets every 15 minutes over contested parking spaces if filthy sinner humans were allowed to carry self-defense weapons.

The exact opposite happened.

Homicides rates:
 United States   4.8[9]
 Germany   0.8

Much more to come...

Compared to say Canada the homicide rate are much lower as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate  10.3 as compared Canada 2.38. Mexico has 11.17  and Australia 1.06

I wonder why Japan has such unbelievable low rates...

Interesting read:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

But it offers no real explanation other than culture.

[bitsmichel]

The explosion of new laws allowing citizens to carry firearms concealed is a large factor in the crime drop over the last 10 years.

I'm old enough to remember the horror and gnashing of teeth when Concealed Carry was proposed in Texas.

The media assured us there would be gun battles in the streets every 15 minutes over contested parking spaces if filthy sinner humans were allowed to carry self-defense weapons.

The exact opposite happened.

Homicides rates:
 United States   4.8[9]
 Germany   0.8

Much more to come...

Compared to say Canada the homicide rate are much lower as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate  10.3 as compared Canada 2.38. Mexico has 11.17  and Australia 1.06

I wonder why Japan has such unbelievable low rates...

Interesting read:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

But it offers no real explanation other than culture.

South Korea and Azerbaijan are also very low, could be a cultural thing, or climate;

[bryant.coleman]

I wonder why Japan has such unbelievable low rates...

Very simple. The Japanese police is one of the most efficient of its type in the world. They have around 99.8% conviction rate, for all crimes.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/468111?uid=3738256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104123198157

Also there are several other facts, such as lack of immigration, ethnic homogeneity of the society.etc

[niothor]

I wonder why Japan has such unbelievable low rates...

Very simple. The Japanese police is one of the most efficient of its type in the world. They have around 99.8% conviction rate, for all crimes.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/468111?uid=3738256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104123198157

Also there are several other facts, such as lack of immigration, ethnic homogeneity of the society.etc

Unfortunately it's not that simple....

Did you read the second paragraph on the article you quoted?

If the murder rate would be down because of the conviction rate the other crimes would be also down like that but the percentages are not showing it at all.

[Pepin]

In my opinion, the decline in the inner city population might have contributed a lot. There is significant migration of people from the crime-affected inner city areas to the more affluent suburbs. The suburbs mostly comprises of gated communities and well maintained residential associations, where the street gangs don't have much power.

What country are you from? That doesn't sound at all like the US I know.

[bryant.coleman]

If the murder rate would be down because of the conviction rate the other crimes would be also down like that but the percentages are not showing it at all.

Who said that the other crimes are not down?

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

For example, the incidence of rape is 66 times lower in Japan, when compared to the US. Car theft is 20 times lower, and Assaults are 15 times lower.

[niothor]

If the murder rate would be down because of the conviction rate the other crimes would be also down like that but the percentages are not showing it at all.

Who said that the other crimes are not down?

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

For example, the incidence of rape is 66 times lower in Japan, when compared to the US. Car theft is 20 times lower, and Assaults are 15 times lower.

You are obsessed with the us .. let it go for god sake

Seems like the conviction in japan isn't affecting kidnappings more than the one is Austria for example...

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Kidnappings
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Austria/Japan/Crime

Or the number of car thefts compared to ... Russia .

[bitsmichel]

If the murder rate would be down because of the conviction rate the other crimes would be also down like that but the percentages are not showing it at all.

Who said that the other crimes are not down?

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

For example, the incidence of rape is 66 times lower in Japan, when compared to the US. Car theft is 20 times lower, and Assaults are 15 times lower.

You are obsessed with the us .. let it go for god sake

Seems like the conviction in japan isn't affecting kidnappings more than the one is Austria for example...

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Kidnappings
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Austria/Japan/Crime

Or the number of car thefts compared to ... Russia .

What is software piracy doing in the list?  It is very debatable whether software piracy is a crime.
Its a shame spyware is not on the list of crimes, spyware is simply allowed to be included in (commercial) software packages.

[tinof]

City and state have something to gain to bring the statistic down for election purpose.

Not saying the data is wrong, but one should be aware of bias in any study with hidden agenda.

[bryant.coleman]

Seems like the conviction in japan isn't affecting kidnappings more than the one is Austria for example...

The definition of kidnapping differs a lot in Japan. If an estranged spouse takes away the kid to his native village, without the permission of the other one, then it is considered as kidnap in Japan.

[Pepin]

Seems like the conviction in japan isn't affecting kidnappings more than the one is Austria for example...

The definition of kidnapping differs a lot in Japan. If an estranged spouse takes away the kid to his native village, without the permission of the other one, then it is considered as kidnap in Japan.

? Isn't that considered kidnapping everywhere?

[Charlie Prime]

Homicides rates: United States   4.8[9] Germany   0.8

What do Germans have to do with concealed carry in Texas?