Thanasis Collection Pack

[Thanasis]

Seems that some interesting breakage is going to be formed.

[Thanasis]

It was so simple for anyone here to make some money!

He had just to follow the instructions given on the previous post!

https://cryptotrader.org/topics/913623/thanasis-collection-pack

[Thanasis]

These are the resistance levels in a possible upward movement.


https://cryptotrader.org/topics/913623/thanasis-collection-pack

[spoogemcduck]

But should we use your bull or bear bots   

[Thanasis]

My opinion is that you must abstain from trades as long the prices don't break any of the above two trend lines.

SELL in the case of a down breakage and BUY in the case of an up breakage.


https://cryptotrader.org/topics/913623/thanasis-collection-pack

[Thanasis]

Hi guys,

Introducing the Thanasis ALL WEATHER bot https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM, we have now 3 bots of extreme quality, each one of them oriented to a different market condition:

ALL WEATHER bot https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM : Use this bot when you don't know if the market is Bullish or Bearish, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in any market condition.

GOLDEN bot https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ: Use this bot when you think that the market is Bearish, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in a conservative manner.

TOP GUN bot https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/6cCXxg7QyQsuGpyfT: Use this bot when you think that the market is Bullish, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in a aggressive manner.

Here are the efficiencies of these bots for the last 4 months. Note please that despite the market in this period had tremendous losses, all these 3 extreme quality bots have very high positive efficiencies.



For all of them please visit https://cryptotrader.org/topics/913623/thanasis-collection-pack

[Bonez0r]

What happened to your Tornado bot? I don't see it on that page you linked.

It's too bad there's only one tier of the All Weather bot. $40 is a bit steep for the amount i use for trading. I'm not sure it would be profitable.

[Thanasis]

Hi BonezOr,

Thanks for your interest about my bots (All Weather bot, Golden bot, Top Gun Bot) for Bitcoin trading.

The Tornado bot you are asking for has been refined and in its improved version has been absorbed into the new All Weather Bot.

Thinking that the old Tornado bot had prices from 25$ to 200$ i believe that the price of 40$ for the new improved All Weather bot is a fair value.

Relative to the efficiency of the All Weather bot and the question if it is profitable enough, here is a table of its efficiency for various periods for the last year:




Here are the relative backtests:

https://cryptotrader.org/backtests/SXwkG5Mn8DZBcG2C8

https://cryptotrader.org/backtests/Cov6TMwSJ7CjabQ87

https://cryptotrader.org/backtests/GiC7xJFWDtcEG8A6a

https://cryptotrader.org/backtests/AEQB5reH5zWKZrJ9v

Of course, the same incredible profitability you will see if you trade with All Weather bot in any other time period, in any other exhange platform and in any other currency pair.

Given the above i believe that its price is a fair value  for it.

All Weather bot : https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM

Golden bot : https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ

Top Gun bot : https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/6cCXxg7QyQsuGpyfT

[Bonez0r]

What i meant was this. At the moment i'm only trading with $1800. If the bot gives me 4% profit per month, that's $72 per month. I'm paying $40 for the bot, plus $30 for the cryptotrader subscription, that's a total of $70 i'm spending each month. That's why i like the tiered subscription idea. Someone who trades with less (and therefore has less profit) pays less.

[Thanasis]

Hi Bonz0r,

I respect your approach to the matter you refer.

The main reason for the one price size for the bot was some problems with the rating system of the bots in the crypto site (i.e. the popularity index for the bot had to be divided to the many items of the same bot and not as a whole for the bot).

I think that the problem arises that your subscription (30$ per month) is very high comparing to your available capital (1,800$).

As the crypto site allows less low subscription rates (10$ per month), i believe that you must consider for these low rates and not for the higher one and as soon as your capital will grow (and it probably will do), then you must consider for a higher rate.

Nevertheless, assuming as you say a bot can give you a 4% monthly profitable rate, then it means that your investment can give to you a 48% anual profit (=4% x 12) minus 120$ anual subscription fees (=10$ x 12).

This is a very interesting investment opportunity, don't you think so?

[Thanasis]

Looking for the market identification, we can see this basic chart:





As you can see the prices in these last months are bellow the red Trendline, so we can say that the market is Bearish.


Besides, as you may know these are 3 bots of extreme quality which trade in every exchange platform and in every currency pair:


ALL WEATHER bot https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM : Use this bot when you don't know if the market is Bullish or Bearish, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in any market condition.

GOLDEN bot https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ: Use this bot when you think that the market is Bearish, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in a conservative manner.

TOP GUN bot https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/6cCXxg7QyQsuGpyfT: Use this bot when you think that the market is Bullish, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in a aggressive manner.

Given the above, the All Weather bot and the Golden bot seems to be very good choices for the current situation for the market characteristics.

Here are some tables for the efficiencies of the above bots, in a market which for the same period had tremendous losses.

This is the All Weather bot table efficiency, for any exchange platform and any currency pair for the last 4 months:



This is the Golden bot table efficiency, for any exchange platfotm and any currency pair for the last 4 months:



This is a comperative table efficiency:



Happy trading !!!

[Bonez0r]

Do you use default bot parameters to get the percentages in the tables?

Also, i'm afraid you forgot that the $10 cryptotrader subscription has a $1000 limit to trade with, that's not going to be profitable. Costs are then $50 monthly (site 10 + bot 40) and 4% profit over $1000 is $40, that's a net loss. I think that my $1800 is the amount needed for break even. Assuming 4% profit per month that is. I'm beginning to wonder if i'm not better off lending my money for 15% net profit annually.

By the way, how does it work with the Tornado --> All Weather upgrade. I have a Tornado bot subscription now, will that keep running until the period that i paid for is over?

[Thanasis]

1) Yes, i use the default bot parameters to get the percentages in the tables. Besides, these are the recommended parameters for the bots.

2) Given your low trading capital (1,800$) you can split your capital in two parts, trading the one part with a 10$ per month subscription and the other one manually according to your trading feeling.
Alternatively, you are right, you need a 30$ per month subscription. In this case you can run multiple instances for the bot in many exchange platforms and in many currency pairs.
To be honnest, "a Ferrari needs its appropriate road to run".

3) You must leave your Tornado bot to run until the last date of its subscription - thank you very much for your trust to this bot. Then, when it will expire then just gonna rent the All Weather bot or the Golden bot.

[Thanasis]

Hi folks,

Thinking about the concerns of Bonz0r, now we have now the cheaper versions of all three bots (ALL WEATHER Bot,  GOLDEN Bot, TOP GUN Bot), limited in their permitted trading capital as follows:

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- 40 $ ---- ✠ ALL WEATHER Bot  (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM)  v1.0 (Unlimited usage)
   
- 20 $ --- ✠ ALL WEATHER Bot Basic (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/AER9bbwHHcHDEnZLs)  v1.0 (The Full Version of the ALL WEATHER Bot but limited up to trading capital of 1,000 USD/ 800 EUR / 6,000 CNY / 3.0 BTC ) 

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- 40 $ ---- ♔ GOLDEN Bot (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ)  v1.0 (Unlimited usage)
   
- 20 $ --- ♔ GOLDEN Bot Basic (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/ts9KsuJ4KRNwx8kR7)  v1.0 (The Full Version of the GOLDEN Bot but limited up to trading capital of 1,000 USD/ 800 EUR / 6,000 CNY / 3.0 BTC )   

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- 40 $ ---- ♛ TOP GUN Bot (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/6cCXxg7QyQsuGpyfT)  v1.0 (Unlimited usage)
   
- 20 $ --- ♛ TOP GUN Bot Basic (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/cCEXyvEMXnh3r7N6v)  v1.0 (The Full Version of the TOP GUN Bot but limited up to trading capital of 1,000 USD/ 800 EUR / 6,000 CNY / 3.0 BTC ) 

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Of course, all the cheaper versions have inside the full strategy capability of the unlimited versions and the only limitation for them is  the maximum trading capital up to which they are permitted to trade.

[Thanasis]

In this basic price chart we can see that the market is BEARISH, as the prices are still below the red trendline.

So the optimum bot choices are:

1) The GOLDEN bot (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ)

2) The ALL WEATHER bot (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM)

Enjoy the trading !

[jamieb81]

Hey,

I've never used a bot before, is it easy to use / set up?

Also With the 20$ golden bot +10$ website subscription what amount would I need to invest to see some decent returns? ( although at the moment I speak BTC is on a bullrun lol )

I am now into p2p lending and getting a pretty good monthly return with no minimal investment right now.

thanks!

[Thanasis]

As you know the GOLDEN Bot and the ALL WEATHER Bot have been designed to be the GOLDEN Bot your first choice if the market is Bearish and the ALL WETHER Bot to be your first choice when you don't know if the market is Bullish or Bearish.

In this direction the performance of these two bots during the last month is very interesting, in a period for which the market is extremely Bearish.

Needless to say that both the bots have behaved extremely well.

Indeed, in this period the market has been fallen around - 35 % but both these bots have very good positive performance !!!!

Here are the last results for this period from the live link of the GOLDEN Bot with performance 5.02% !!!:

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2015-01-15 14:30 position start: ||| btc : 0 ||| usd : 100.94
2015-01-15 14:30 position today: ||| btc : 0.494042 ||| usd : 0.01
2015-01-15 14:30 ↓↓ price ||| start: 327.9 ||| now: 214.554
2015-01-15 14:30 ↑↑ capital (btc) ||| start: 0.3078315 ||| now: 0.4940744
2015-01-15 14:30 ↑↑ capital (usd) ||| start: 100.94 ||| now: 106.01
2015-01-15 14:30 ♣♣ efficiency (31 days) : ||| B/H: -34.57 % ||| Bot: 5.02 %

GOLDEN Bot : https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ
ALL WEATHER Bot : https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM


Happy Trading !!!

[Thanasis]

About the GOLDEN Bot and the ALL WEATHER Bot

The new versions of the GOLDEN Bot and the ALL WEATHER Bot have already about one month of existence and indeed, with this last month we have an extremely useful test to ascertain the validity of its characteristics, as your **first choice bots** when the market is Bearish or Uncertain as follow:

GOLDEN Bot (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ) : Please use this bot when you think that the market is BEARISH, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in a conservative manner.

ALL WEATHER Bot (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/JofXMXatcj23fWenM)  : Please use this bot when you don't know if the market is BULLISH or BEARISH, or whenever you want a bot of extreme quality ideal for trading in any market condition.

Well, this last month the market has been fallen around -35%, which practically means that if you were without the help of a good bot you would have lost about one third of your capital during only the last month !!!.

On the contrary, the users of the  GOLDEN Bot  and the  ALL WEATHER Bot  have on the same period not loses but profits, as follow:



Please vist https://cryptotrader.org/topics/913623/thanasis-collection-pack

Happy Trading !!!

[Thanasis]

GOLDEN Bot (https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/5TSD2YQRXGJHq39JQ): The Perfect Story !!!

These are from the live link of the Golden Bot:



2015-01-17 09:15 =====================================================
2015-01-17 09:15 position start: ||| btc : 0 ||| usd : 100.94
2015-01-17 09:15 position today: ||| btc : 0.000042 ||| usd : 103.63
2015-01-17 09:15 ↓↓ price ||| start: 327.9 ||| now: 199.88
2015-01-17 09:15 ↑↑ capital (btc) ||| start: 0.3078315 ||| now: 0.5185262
2015-01-17 09:15 ↑↑ capital (usd) ||| start: 100.94 ||| now: 103.64
2015-01-17 09:15 ♣♣ efficiency (33 days) : ||| B/H: -39.04 % ||| Bot: 2.68 %


As you can see:

• In these 33 days the Market has been fallen about -40% (which practically means that your capital would been halved during just the last one month if you were without a good trading bot!!!)
  
  On the contrary the users of the GOLDEN Bot) have on this same period a positive profit about +2.5%

[Thanasis]

Hi guys,

Appreciating very much your trust to my bots, rewarding the GOLDEN Bot and the ALL WEATHER Bot with the higher possible rating in popularity, i decided to increase 50% the maximum permitted trading capital to the Basic versions without any change in their prices.

Now the Basic versions can trade up to the maximum trading capital of 1,500 USD/ 1200 EUR / 10,000 CNY / 5.0 BTC instead of 1,000 USD/ 800 EUR / 6,000 CNY / 3.0 BTC which were the limits until today.

So we have:

20 $ --- ✠ ALL WEATHER Bot Basic v2.0 (The Full Version of the ALL WEATHER Bot but limited up to trading capital of 1,500 USD/ 1,200 EUR / 10,000 CNY / 5.0 BTC )  https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/AER9bbwHHcHDEnZLs

20 $ --- ♔ GOLDEN Bot Basic v2.0 (The Full Version of the GOLDEN Bot but limited up to trading capital of 1,500 USD/ 1,200 EUR / 10,000 CNY / 5.0 BTC ) https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/ts9KsuJ4KRNwx8kR7

20 $ --- ♛ TOP GUN Bot Basic v2.0 (The Full Version of the TOP GUN Bot but limited up to trading capital of 1,500 USD/ 1,200 EUR / 10,000 CNY / 5.0 BTC )  https://cryptotrader.org/strategies/cCEXyvEMXnh3r7N6v

All the users can update their bots to the new improved versions.

Enjoy the Trade !!!!

Affilate link for subscription to the cryptotrader site: https://cryptotrader.org/?r=30