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July 01, 2014, 10:36:53 AM
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So who do we send the PM with the REQUESTED AMOUNT, is it to yakamoto or xbtec?

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July 01, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
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So who do we send the PM with the REQUESTED AMOUNT, is it to yakamoto or xbtec?

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July 01, 2014, 10:48:37 AM
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I appreciate the new changes, thanks for letting us know.

Could you post the google docs list on the front page in the OP ?

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July 01, 2014, 02:25:03 PM
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I appreciate the new changes, thanks for letting us know.

Could you post the google docs list on the front page in the OP ?
I don't control the OP, so I'll have to post the link as we go along, unless the OP is able to do the editing.

I have about 4 people's requests, and I really hope that everyone can send their posts in over the course of today! If not, I'm going to have to go over your posts from you, which will take longer to get payment sent. And it's not fun for me Sad

I'll maybe let it slide this week if some people miss it, but I'm going to start expecting about 26 messages in my inbox over the course of 2 days. Once we start with the Tuesday-only payments, they will be required to be sent in, in order to receive payment for your posts.

Thank you for helping each other out! I was really helpful as I was quite busy over the course of this week and couldn't do a lot of posting.
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July 01, 2014, 08:32:42 PM
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I appreciate the new changes, thanks for letting us know.

Could you post the google docs list on the front page in the OP ?
I don't control the OP, so I'll have to post the link as we go along, unless the OP is able to do the editing.

I have about 4 people's requests...

Can you give us an ETA for this payment?

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July 01, 2014, 10:11:38 PM
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I appreciate the new changes, thanks for letting us know.

Could you post the google docs list on the front page in the OP ?
I don't control the OP, so I'll have to post the link as we go along, unless the OP is able to do the editing.

I have about 4 people's requests...

Can you give us an ETA for this payment?
All I can say is that give 72-hours after Tuesday. So it WILL arrive by Friday, at the latest.

COME ON YOU GUYS!

I have 12 people's PMs! Where are the other 15? I need your help for this!
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July 01, 2014, 11:06:24 PM
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I appreciate the new changes, thanks for letting us know.

Could you post the google docs list on the front page in the OP ?
I don't control the OP, so I'll have to post the link as we go along, unless the OP is able to do the editing.

I have about 4 people's requests...

Can you give us an ETA for this payment?
All I can say is that give 72-hours after Tuesday. So it WILL arrive by Friday, at the latest.

COME ON YOU GUYS!

I have 12 people's PMs! Where are the other 15? I need your help for this!

I just made 4 posts in the last week. Therefore I didn´t contact you  Wink
I will send you a pm in the next week and combine my posts for the two weeks when I reach the
15 posts minimum threshold.

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July 02, 2014, 12:57:26 AM
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Do you know what time it is?

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oP6FQdoTN6erS8GKZrHS2jFTsHYQluhvauGB0uBdemU/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to all who participated in the program.
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July 02, 2014, 01:11:32 AM
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Do you know what time it is?

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oP6FQdoTN6erS8GKZrHS2jFTsHYQluhvauGB0uBdemU/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to all who participated in the program.

Ah, it seems you haven't change my payout address to the new one.
Please change it to 1JNjCJPVpDTFXXr9GF3SximoESnJZxzyRk
Thank you!
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July 02, 2014, 01:59:11 AM
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Do you know what time it is?

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oP6FQdoTN6erS8GKZrHS2jFTsHYQluhvauGB0uBdemU/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to all who participated in the program.

Ah, it seems you haven't change my payout address to the new one.
Please change it to 1JNjCJPVpDTFXXr9GF3SximoESnJZxzyRk
Thank you!
Ah yes, sorry about that. I'll modify it ASAP.
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July 02, 2014, 02:38:52 AM
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Do you know what time it is?

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oP6FQdoTN6erS8GKZrHS2jFTsHYQluhvauGB0uBdemU/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to all who participated in the program.

i wish there're some spot for junior member
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July 02, 2014, 05:30:37 AM
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Do you know what time it is?

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oP6FQdoTN6erS8GKZrHS2jFTsHYQluhvauGB0uBdemU/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to all who participated in the program.

What do the different colors to the names mean? Cheesy
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July 02, 2014, 05:42:58 AM
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Any spot left for me on this campaign? The one I was on has finished up for now
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July 02, 2014, 05:47:11 AM
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Do you know what time it is?

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oP6FQdoTN6erS8GKZrHS2jFTsHYQluhvauGB0uBdemU/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to all who participated in the program.

What do the different colors to the names mean? Cheesy

I don't think there is any special meaning, other than making the table looks better. Cheesy

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July 02, 2014, 05:47:47 AM
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Do you know what time it is?

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oP6FQdoTN6erS8GKZrHS2jFTsHYQluhvauGB0uBdemU/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to all who participated in the program.

What do the different colors to the names mean? Cheesy

I think that they are placed just for make more readable the spreadsheet

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July 02, 2014, 01:31:56 PM
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I messaged my post count and was thinking about this new procedure.

Let's say someone made 30 posts this week. He messaged saying 28 of them were constructive. Will 28 be entered into the spreadsheet and posts will not be checked? What if only 20 of them were deemed constructive by Yakamoto/XBTec standards? Will the spreadsheet list 20 or 28? To complicate things a bit, what if Yakamoto counted 27 constructive posts? Will that 1 spam post be paid?

XBTec chose Yakamoto to check posts because XBTec trusts his judgement on constructive posts, but this new procedure depends partly on participant's own judgement. If Yakamoto have to check all ours posts anyway, and his judgement is the final word, why do we need to message him our own count?

Yakamoto now have to wait 24-48 hours for our messages to start the counting process, which would inevitably be slower than him reviewing all our posts at midnight server time on the period ending day. So, payout might actually be delayed more than before.

I do not have a problem messaging my post count, or my count being reviewed. I will follow whatever is required of me. It makes no difference to me because none of my posts are marginal and I do not mind waiting an extra 24 hours for payment. The new procedure just doesn't seem very productive...
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July 02, 2014, 01:52:01 PM
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I messaged my post count and was thinking about this new procedure.

Let's say someone made 30 posts this week. He messaged saying 28 of them were constructive. Will 28 be entered into the spreadsheet and posts will not be checked? What if only 20 of them were deemed constructive by Yakamoto/XBTec standards? Will the spreadsheet list 20 or 28? To complicate things a bit, what if Yakamoto counted 27 constructive posts? Will that 1 spam post be paid?

XBTec chose Yakamoto to check posts because XBTec trusts his judgement on constructive posts, but this new procedure depends partly on participant's own judgement. If Yakamoto have to check all ours posts anyway, and his judgement is the final word, why do we need to message him our own count?

Yakamoto now have to wait 24-48 hours for our messages to start the counting process, which would inevitably be slower than him reviewing all our posts at midnight server time on the period ending day. So, payout might actually be delayed more than before.

I do not have a problem messaging my post count, or my count being reviewed. I will follow whatever is required of me. It makes no difference to me because none of my posts are marginal and I do not mind waiting an extra 24 hours for payment. The new procedure just doesn't seem very productive...
I can see what some of your concerns are. I am checking the first few pages in the "last posts" for every person, to make sure there isn't consistent spam, but I give people benefit of the doubt if they intentionally remove 2-4 posts of theirs.

As for my standards v. Requested posts, I will continue to add another category, with what you said, being Approved posts beside Requested posts.

I'm still kind of learning as I do this, so I am always finding new things to implement or modify.

I thank you everyone who has participated in this, as this has been way more enjoyable than I thought it would be, and I really enjoy doing this.
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July 03, 2014, 02:52:09 AM
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Ok, so now, as I understand it, Yakamoto has received all the PMs by yesterday, sometime soon then he tabulates then and gives the result to the OP.  At that point, how long until paytime?  Last week we didn't get paid til Friday.  Is that the plan every week?  If so, I think it should be said.  Basically, to my mind, the times and deadlines should be set in advance so everyone knows what to expect.  Thanks Yakamoto for adding some organization to this endeavour!
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July 03, 2014, 05:18:34 AM
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Ok, so now, as I understand it, Yakamoto has received all the PMs by yesterday, sometime soon then he tabulates then and gives the result to the OP.  At that point, how long until paytime?  Last week we didn't get paid til Friday.  Is that the plan every week?  If so, I think it should be said.  Basically, to my mind, the times and deadlines should be set in advance so everyone knows what to expect.  Thanks Yakamoto for adding some organization to this endeavour!

You should know that paying the campaign people isn't one of OP's first concerns. You should see where else XBTec has posted and you will notice that they are pretty busy making asics.

So just chill out, payments will arrive.
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July 03, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
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Ok, so now, as I understand it, Yakamoto has received all the PMs by yesterday, sometime soon then he tabulates then and gives the result to the OP.  At that point, how long until paytime?  Last week we didn't get paid til Friday.  Is that the plan every week?  If so, I think it should be said.  Basically, to my mind, the times and deadlines should be set in advance so everyone knows what to expect.  Thanks Yakamoto for adding some organization to this endeavour!

You should know that paying the campaign people isn't one of OP's first concerns. You should see where else XBTec has posted and you will notice that they are pretty busy making asics.

So just chill out, payments will arrive.

Acidyo, I wish that you could use the part of your brain that deals with subtlety.  I make a calm, rational post which affects a professional transaction: "on which day should we expect payment?".  You seem to have interpreted this as question about if payment will arrive.  That's obviously not the point.

To run a professional business you need to let your associates/employers/customers/partners know what the plan is and then do your best to stick to it.  To be honest, the way XBTec runs this campaign is going to reflect on how people consider him about buying an asic.  Especially in the field of asics, timing and delivery  on-time is crucial for people to make a profit.  Consider the current court cases regarding this matter.  If XBTec can't delegate in some way to pay his bills in a regular, on-time way, that doesn't look good for him as a supplier.  It speaks to disorganization, etc.

So, please forgive my bold here:

1. I'm not asking about if we will get paid
2. I am not engendering panic
3. I am asking what the plan is for a weekly payday. !!!

A little disorganization at the beginning of a campaign is obviously forgivable.  I'm just asking the reasonable next step: please make a plan to pay us on day X after Yakamoto submits his work.

This is not asking anything unreasonable.  We are asked to submit our payment requests by a certain time on a certain day.  That XBTec should pay out at a certain time on a certain day is not outlandish.
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