XBTec - campaign terminated

[jbrnt]

My wallet has not enough BTC for payouts, therefore I just paid to thespacepilot and zolace.
I bought some BTC for payots. Tomorrow all payouts will done.

Glad you are back, being honest and keep us informed is a to good start in resolving this situation.

what about this weeks payout?

OP said "all payouts". I hope he meant "all" as in everyone and both weeks.

As i've written to XBTec i'll remove negative feedback when i will receive payments for the two unpaid weeks.

I received no PM from him, I wish I have your bargaining power. A big thanks to you Alex, we might not get a reply from OP so quickly if it weren't for your negative trust.

The payments will arrive tomorrow, please don't panic.

I wouldn't make such statements on behalf of someone else.

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[deadley]

Hi everybody.
My wallet has not enough BTC for payouts, therefore I just paid to thespacepilot and zolace.

I bought some BTC for payots. Tomorrow all payouts will done.
Please, keep a calm.

XBTeC also replied to my PM.  Because he's finally replied, I'm going to give another 24 hours before posting any negative feedback.

I've already removed myself from the campaign so I'm not interested any further once all is resolved.  But I'd suggest to anyone who stays with this campaign that you demand an escrow solution.  From what I can tell, when funds were in escrow, OP paid on-time.  In the weeks where there was no escrow, deadlines were seriously abused.

Well, since I'm working with XBTec, I will offer myself for an escrow service.

If I am elected and XBTec approves, since I have 0 trust, I'll only ask for .5 BTC, not the 1 BTC previously used. This is to prove that I won't go and steal people's BTC, and maybe open up some other doors for me.

Any feedback is appreciated but not necessary!

There is so many trusted escrow who can do this easily with little charges like 1% so why not use them.

I'm doing it for free, that's the difference.

Since I work with him anyways, and it's free, it's probably a bit more beneficial. And I have no interest in fraud or anything of the like. Wrecking my reputation is a move that only a select few would want to do, and I have no interest in being part of that group. As I said, I will only ask for .5 BTC, so about $300. $300 is not (In my opinion) worth another month of waiting for member status, plus all the other things I'd have to wait for. And you can check; Yakamoto is the only account I have on this forum.

But it's up to XBTec, I can't speak for him.

You are doing free, I know but you are not that trusted, so how anyone will take risk with their bitcoins, established escrow here are very trusted like Danny or escrow.ms who charge very little for this kind of service.

You are just member account anyone can buy easily member account with just 0.05 BTC so it's not about your member status it's about trust with money.

[Mitchell]

I am willing to hold coins in escrow, like I did at the start of this campaign. If XBTec is interested, of course.

[alani123]

I'm willing to hold coins in escrow as well if xBtec consideres doing this again.

[FattyMcButterpants]

ideally, wouldnt the campaign manager be the one to hold escrow? then he can actually make the payouts. otherwise, everyone's gonna be waiting again for xbtec when the posts are tabulated. and the escrow will return the escrow once everyone is paid.....

[Mitchell]

ideally, wouldnt the campaign manager be the one to hold escrow? then he can actually make the payouts. otherwise, everyone's gonna be waiting again for xbtec when the posts are tabulated. and the escrow will return the escrow once everyone is paid.....

Well, it's not that I don't trust Yakamoto (you are doing a great job dude), but having someone that does the escrow and manage the campaign at the same time seems to me like a bad combination. He could change post counts and keep the leftovers or even run away with the BTC and buy a new account (they are quite cheap). I'm not saying that he would do something like that, but it's an ever present risk.

[Yakamoto]

ideally, wouldnt the campaign manager be the one to hold escrow? then he can actually make the payouts. otherwise, everyone's gonna be waiting again for xbtec when the posts are tabulated. and the escrow will return the escrow once everyone is paid.....

Well, it's not that I don't trust Yakamoto (you are doing a great job dude), but having someone that does the escrow and mange the campaign at the same time seems to me like a bad combination. He could change post counts and keep the profit to himself or even run away with the BTC and buy a new account (they are quite cheap). I'm not saying that he would do something like that, but it's a ever present risk.

This is very well true. There isn't much stopping me from doing that, and there is no way to be fully able to convince you that I am not going to run off with it. I do, however, post the counts publicly via spreadsheet link, and so anyone can keep me in check, as well as check anyone else.

If you don't want me to do the escrow, it's fine. I fully respect everyone's decision, especially with me being a neutral member. I'm just offering my services in the event that they are necessary.

I do understand your concerns, and I'm exploring ways to work on my trust, so that I can hopefully do more and help more in the community. And this is the internet, after all. No-one can tell if I am decent and trustworthy man or if I'm a sleazy bum trying to run off with everyone's cash.

I can't assure you whether I am a decent man or sleazy bum, since anyone can say "Oh yeah I'm good." thanks to this just being text on a screen.

Trust is also just text. It's up to everyone else to choose what they think of me, and I can't change that.

Thanks for the compliments, though!

[Rigon]

I can tell Yakamto is trust worthy but you still have to work for it I will PM my new post couint what I wanna know is will i get two weeks or just one week?

[Yakamoto]

I can tell Yakamto is trust worthy but you still have to work for it I will PM my new post couint what I wanna know is will i get two weeks or just one week?

I believe you'll get last weeks along with this weeks withing 72 hours as of 12:00am UTC. Don't quote me on that, however. I did goof that up with last week's count, and I don't want to repeat that same mistake.

I'd say give about 3-4 days, hopefully it will arrive.

[tspacepilot]

At this point, the campaign is in total chaos.  We have heard a small word from the OP that he will pay "soon".  I want to say again, and I hope others will join me, we really should organize and demand better treament.  For me to continue with this campaign, I demand:

1) A concrete plan for payment term and payday.
  This means that we know from when-to-when each period begins and ends and that we know when to expect payment for a given term.
2) Funding worth at least 1 week's payments placed either into a trusted escrow or with Yakamoto (the campaign manger)
  This is mainly due to past disorganization and the fact that the only week that paid on-time was the week where there was escrow on the line.

I hope that others will join me in demanding these two points.  I also hope that if these demands are not met by a certain time/date, we all remove XBTeC signature simutaneously, as a show of solidearity.  Note that if we all remove the signature simultaneously, the campaign will effectively be closed.  That will demand that signature advertizers treat their contractees with proper respect.

Who is with me?

[Yakamoto]

Well, in the midst of all this chaos, there's one thing that's always on time;

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w002SE7zoqB3Hu-Z2MXcNcmiPkrPzFiV1OLPA7NysZ0/edit?usp=sharing

Less people PM'd me, and there are a lot of people who didn't make 15 posts.

Other than that, I'm glad everyone has continued to stick with this campaign, even though it hasn't been the most orderly. And I bid those who are resigning farewell and good luck.

And spreadsheets will be calculated and posted at around this time every Tuesday, so everyone has a better understanding of timing.

[tspacepilot]

Well, in the midst of all this chaos, there's one thing that's always on time;

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w002SE7zoqB3Hu-Z2MXcNcmiPkrPzFiV1OLPA7NysZ0/edit?usp=sharing

Less people PM'd me, and there are a lot of people who didn't make 15 posts.

Other than that, I'm glad everyone has continued to stick with this campaign, even though it hasn't been the most orderly. And I bid those who are resigning farewell and good luck.

And spreadsheets will be calculated and posted at around this time every Tuesday, so everyone has a better understanding of timing.

Hi Yakamoto, I appreciate your punctuality.  However, although I may be mistaken, I thought you decided that PMs were due to you anytime on Tuesday.  Since it's still Tuesday in the far West, I didn't figure that PMs were due for a few more hours.

[Yakamoto]

Well, in the midst of all this chaos, there's one thing that's always on time;

Spreadsheet time!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w002SE7zoqB3Hu-Z2MXcNcmiPkrPzFiV1OLPA7NysZ0/edit?usp=sharing

Less people PM'd me, and there are a lot of people who didn't make 15 posts.

Other than that, I'm glad everyone has continued to stick with this campaign, even though it hasn't been the most orderly. And I bid those who are resigning farewell and good luck.

And spreadsheets will be calculated and posted at around this time every Tuesday, so everyone has a better understanding of timing.

Hi Yakamoto, I appreciate your punctuality.  However, although I may be mistaken, I thought you decided that PMs were due to you anytime on Tuesday.  Since it's still Tuesday in the far West, I didn't figure that PMs were due for a few more hours.

I'm in the west, but I do understand what you mean. I'll start bringing the time back, but I'll kind of be pushing it. I'll try to delay it to about 9-10 pm my time, so about 8pm on the coast.

Sorry if this caused any inconvenience for anyone.

[alexrossi]

Re-enrolling for this week (postcount here just for reference):

Address: 1BbnT9vzTUNw9hJaTfZKHr6n1z9qX4osLn
Start postcount: 2581

[sed]

Re-enrolling for this week (postcount here just for reference):

Address: 1BbnT9vzTUNw9hJaTfZKHr6n1z9qX4osLn
Start postcount: 2581

Alex, were you paid for last week yet?

I'm still 2 weeks behind payments.  My last payment was on 27 June for the week that ended 22 June.

[alexrossi]

Alex, were you paid for last week yet?

Nope (two weeks unpaid me too), i just have received a PM from OP saying that today will finally pay.

[jbrnt]

I have just recieved my payment for the period June 25th to July 1st. Thank you XBTec.

Alex, I checked your address and I think you received payment for the first week as well.

[alexrossi]

OK, first week paid, hope the same for all the other partecipants

[sed]

Still nothing for me.  Awaiting my final payment,  I'll update when I receive.

[alexrossi]

Payment for the 2nd week received, negative feedback removed. Thanks XBTec