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June 10, 2014, 01:07:07 AM Last edit: June 10, 2014, 04:19:35 PM by howardb |
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If you understand bitcoin, you have to acknowlege it's possible that one day national currencies will become a thing of the past, and the world will run on bitcoin.
So I found myself wondering how many bitcoin I would need tucked away in cold store to be wealthy in such a scenario. There are different ways of calculating this:
BTC21,000,000 Issued (eventually) / 7,200,000,000 people in the world = BTC0.002916 average per head
But the world is not equal, the top 18% of the world currently own 82% of it, so what would I need to be in that top 18%?
21000000/(7200000000*.18) = BTC0.016
I'm sure I can find BTC0.016 to tuck away as a hedge for the distant future!
However, before this switch happens we are going to get degrees of moving away from fiat currency to bitcoin, so what might the value of bitcoin be at different points on that ladder? Well if we base out calculations on M3 (broad money) of which there is currently about $100 trillion, we can peg out that ladder, and also infer by the current BTC price where we are currently on the ladder:
Transition 100% = (M3)100,000,000,000,000/21,000,000 = $4,761,904 = BTC1 10% = $476,190 = BTC1 1% = $47,619 = BTC1 0.1% = $4,619 = BTC1 PASSED NOV 2013 0.01% = $476 = BTC1 PASSED JUNE 2013 0.001% = $47 = BTC 1
So with:
i. About 30 of the worlds currencies having serious inflation problems (out of 180 ish) driving people to exchange their local currency for BTC to protect themselves from inflation. ii. About 60,000 retailers accepting bitcoin now. iii. VC Funds have already invested more than double they did last year in BTC projects (5 months in to year!) iv. Legislaters starting to react to BTC
Who thinks it will take more than 12 months to reach the next level? $4619
I certainly don't!
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Cranky4u
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June 10, 2014, 01:10:55 AM |
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My Systems Engineering gut says Q5 2015 we will see the 1% shift...hedging 6BTC over the next 3 months towards that shift.
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howardb (OP)
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June 10, 2014, 01:20:38 AM |
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My Systems Engineering gut says Q5 2015 we will see the 1% shift...hedging 6BTC over the next 3 months towards that shift.
I reckon one day those BTC6 will put you in the worlds top 1%
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June 10, 2014, 01:46:09 AM |
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Yeah, I don't want to be in just the top 18%. That's barley comfortable by western standards. I''d like top 5%
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June 10, 2014, 01:46:38 AM |
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My liberal arts college education says I need more bit coin and a better education. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 10, 2014, 01:52:42 AM |
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Still need a few years to go. Not easy to become the world currency! When the price is down to a low level, I will buy more to save for the future.
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Cranky4u
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June 10, 2014, 02:07:17 AM |
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Still need a few years to go. Not easy to become the world currency! When the price is down to a low level, I will buy more to save for the future.
I fear the recent slump to ~$400 will be the last of the 3 digit regions. If you cant buy a chunk, do what I am, purchase using dollar averaging over the next few months.
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Ron~Popeil
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June 10, 2014, 02:10:05 AM |
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Still need a few years to go. Not easy to become the world currency! When the price is down to a low level, I will buy more to save for the future.
I fear the recent slump to ~$400 will be the last of the 3 digit regions. If you cant buy a chunk, do what I am, purchase using dollar averaging over the next few months. I actually budget a set amount of fiat each month to buy BTC regardless of price. Once I close my mortgage I plan to up it rather dramatically.
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June 10, 2014, 02:12:48 AM |
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If you understand bitcoin, you have to acknowlege it's possible that one day national currencies will become a thing of the past, and the world will run on bitcoin.
So I found myself wondering how many bitcoin I would need tucked away in cold store to be wealthy in such a scenario. There are different ways of calculating this:
BTC21,000,000 Issued (eventually) / 7,200,000,000 people in the world = BTC0.002916 average per head
But the world is not equal, the top 18% of the world currently own 82% of it, so what would I need to be in that top 18%?
21000000/(7200000000*.18) = BTC0.016
I'm sure I can find BTC0.016 to tuck away as a hedge for the distant future!
However, before this switch happens we are going to get degrees of moving away from Fiat currency to bitcoin, so what might the value of bitcoin be at different points on that ladder? Well if we base out calculations on M3 (broad money) of which there is currently about $100 trillion, we can peg out that ladder, and also infer by the current BTC price where we are currently on the ladder:
Transition 100% = (M3)100,000,000,000,000/21,000,000 = $4,761,904 = BTC1 10% = $476,190 = BTC1 1% = $47,619 = BTC1 0.1% = $4,619 = BTC1 PASSED MAY 2014 0.01% = $461 = BTC1
So with:
i. About 30 of the worlds currencies having serious inflation problems (out of 180 ish) driving people to exchange their local currency for BTC to protect themselves from inflation. ii. About 60,000 retailers accepting bitcoin now. iii. VC Funds have already invested more than double they did last year in BTC projects (5 months in to year!) iv. Legislaters starting to react to BTC
Who thinks it will take more than 12 months to reach the next level? $4619
I certainly don't!
i wish this coin will be good in the future.
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Ron~Popeil
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June 10, 2014, 02:34:17 AM |
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If you understand bitcoin, you have to acknowlege it's possible that one day national currencies will become a thing of the past, and the world will run on bitcoin.
So I found myself wondering how many bitcoin I would need tucked away in cold store to be wealthy in such a scenario. There are different ways of calculating this:
BTC21,000,000 Issued (eventually) / 7,200,000,000 people in the world = BTC0.002916 average per head
But the world is not equal, the top 18% of the world currently own 82% of it, so what would I need to be in that top 18%?
21000000/(7200000000*.18) = BTC0.016
I'm sure I can find BTC0.016 to tuck away as a hedge for the distant future!
However, before this switch happens we are going to get degrees of moving away from Fiat currency to bitcoin, so what might the value of bitcoin be at different points on that ladder? Well if we base out calculations on M3 (broad money) of which there is currently about $100 trillion, we can peg out that ladder, and also infer by the current BTC price where we are currently on the ladder:
Transition 100% = (M3)100,000,000,000,000/21,000,000 = $4,761,904 = BTC1 10% = $476,190 = BTC1 1% = $47,619 = BTC1 0.1% = $4,619 = BTC1 PASSED MAY 2014 0.01% = $461 = BTC1
So with:
i. About 30 of the worlds currencies having serious inflation problems (out of 180 ish) driving people to exchange their local currency for BTC to protect themselves from inflation. ii. About 60,000 retailers accepting bitcoin now. iii. VC Funds have already invested more than double they did last year in BTC projects (5 months in to year!) iv. Legislaters starting to react to BTC
Who thinks it will take more than 12 months to reach the next level? $4619
I certainly don't!
i wish this coin will be good in the future. You and me both. Wealth, peace, and freedom. I believe it will happen.
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June 10, 2014, 03:20:50 AM |
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Great job dev Team! your hard work is reflected in the recent price. I will keep waiting.
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June 10, 2014, 03:27:46 AM |
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i think bitcoin or a derivative of bitcoin will be the worlds reserve currency in the future fiat is too slow and clumbsy and untrustworthy for nations if you hold other nations fiat... u dont know how much they are inflating your holdings plus by holding their currency you are supporting their government/policies
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June 10, 2014, 03:38:30 AM |
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Who thinks it will take more than 12 months to reach the next level? $4619
<raising Hand> Much more if ever.
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howardb (OP)
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June 10, 2014, 02:01:31 PM |
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Still need a few years to go. Not easy to become the world currency! When the price is down to a low level, I will buy more to save for the future.
I wasn't speculating when it would become the worlds currency, I was simply speculating when we take the next factor of 10 climb up the ladder to 0.1% of m3
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June 10, 2014, 02:12:55 PM |
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My Systems Engineering gut says Q5 2015 we will see the 1% shift...hedging 6BTC over the next 3 months towards that shift.
I reckon one day those BTC6 will put you in the worlds top 1% The banksters will shake us HODLERS as hard as they can in the coming years to ensure they continue to be at the top. HODL FOR FREEDOM MEN!
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howardb (OP)
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June 10, 2014, 02:14:42 PM |
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Still need a few years to go. Not easy to become the world currency! When the price is down to a low level, I will buy more to save for the future.
You are deluding yourself if you think you are going to get them much cheaper than today. Yes volatility will remain really high in coming years, but the drops will be from much higher bases, I seriously doubt we will ever see $450 again!
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howardb (OP)
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June 10, 2014, 02:16:26 PM |
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My Systems Engineering gut says Q5 2015 we will see the 1% shift...hedging 6BTC over the next 3 months towards that shift.
I reckon one day those BTC6 will put you in the worlds top 1% The banksters will shake us HODLERS as hard as they can in the coming years to ensure they continue to be at the top. HODL FOR FREEDOM MEN! Totally agree, this is going to be the greatest wealth inversion the world has ever seen, and all those 'old white men' (The Oracle of Omaha) who are in denial will be on the wrong side of it.
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June 10, 2014, 02:27:34 PM |
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if bitcoin becomes the world currency, we wouldnt pay that: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140610%2F7mtj2mf8.jpg&t=665&c=Ry-sUTkXdjaDsA)
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howardb (OP)
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June 10, 2014, 02:33:19 PM |
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if bitcoin becomes the world currency, we wouldnt pay that: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140610%2F7mtj2mf8.jpg&t=665&c=Ry-sUTkXdjaDsA) Does not need to become the world currency for that to occur, simply to have enough credibility with the majority of people. We are not there yet, but I doubt we are more than a couple of years away from that. Then, all hell will break loose, we reach tipping point where the price starts rising suddenly, and all those that are noty on board start realising fiat is dead and they scramble to get on board too. The tipping point (collapse of fiat) will not only play out in bitcoin but in any hard assets/commodities etc. So gold is a good second hedge especially if you want to trade the peaks of bitcoin on the way up but don't want to be exposed to fiat.
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June 10, 2014, 02:40:37 PM |
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Bitcoin won't ever become a world currency. Go look at places below or at the poverty line. They can't afford to own a Bitcoin wallet or have access to one.
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