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June 11, 2014, 09:15:51 PM |
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I'm getting married. Not in the state sanctioned or religious sense. In the economic partnership sense. It is going to be a contract between my future wife and I, that lays out our expectations and commitments to each other. Thinks like what our responsibilities are in the event of serious injury or illness, what the restitution will be for infidelity, and how we define infidelity. In our opinion, this is far more meaningful and useful than state or church approval. We are going to hold a somewhat traditional ceremony, reception, and honeymoon. We have been saving for it all in bitcoin. We knew all along it was a risk, and started saving when bitcoin was on it's way down from $1000. We are hope it works out to be a solid store of value, but we've also discussed wedding presents to each other based on the price of BTC in the week or so before the wedding in October this year. We've also included a bitcoin donation address (nothing donated, 1MiNM3YbSgv1pS97vpUyW9FNQZn23fLeTv) and a link to "What is bitcoin?" on bitcoin.org, on our wedding website.
We've tried to remove the state entirely from our wedding... but to have a binding contract, we'd like some for of a notary. That's what this post is about. I want to notarize our wedding on the blockchain. I'm under the impression it can be done, but I've never heard of it being done, and I don't know how. I'm sure someone here knows how it can be done. I'd really like to see how we could incorporate it in to the wedding. Basically to replace the part where the marriage license is traditionally signed.
Any help is much appreciated.
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franky1
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June 11, 2014, 09:20:22 PM |
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on the wedding night reception, please have beyonce singing "if you like it, you should put a blockchain on it.. oh oh oh , a oh oh oh" now seriously. if you want success, make some video's. research http://lifeonbitcoin.com/ as a way to validate your donation plea. and then go speak to a lawyer about the validity of a marriage contract that is not state approved (not on their special paper)
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June 11, 2014, 09:23:26 PM |
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on the wedding night reception, please have beyonce singing
"if you like it, you should put a blockchain on it.. oh oh oh , a oh oh oh"
Oh my..i'm crying...i'm freakin tear all over. I read your post, stopped, went to youtube, found song, played it, and reread your post...tears just wen on and on, i barely got my breath back from all the laughing. Anyway, to help up OP....could you maybe use those messages on blockchaininfo or osmething like that?
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June 11, 2014, 09:34:17 PM |
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If you have a birth certificate and a Social Security Number, then you haven't removed the State. No marriage license is, however, a start. Consider a UCC-1 filing. See http://www.abodia.com/ucc/ to begin your education. If you already have done your UCC-1 financing statement, keep studying so that you don't wind up accidentally opting back in.
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CoinDiver (OP)
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June 11, 2014, 09:35:12 PM |
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on the wedding night reception, please have beyonce singing "if you like it, you should put a blockchain on it.. oh oh oh , a oh oh oh" now seriously. if you want success, make some video's. research http://lifeonbitcoin.com/ as a way to validate your donation plea. and then go speak to a lawyer about the validity of a marriage contract that is not state approved (not on their special paper) LOL! Sorry, it was not supposed to be a plea for donations. We're not interested in the state's interpretation of the validity of our contract, but I'll be happy to take a look at lifeonbitcoin.com. Just to further clarify. We don't intend on paying for the wedding and honeymoon with bitcoins. That will likely be done with fiat. We'll book what we can through whomever we can (expedia at the moment). We're just storing our funds in BTC.
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lnternet
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June 11, 2014, 09:44:24 PM |
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Timestamp the hash of the contract on the blockchain. Maybe by a transcation from each party. Could use a service like this http://www.proofofexistence.com/about
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June 11, 2014, 09:46:18 PM |
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First Congrats on your marriage hope it goes well Second Putting the contract on the blockchain seems like a neat way of recording it forever IT is a ledger of transactions so I say go for it. Think this is it an embedded message https://blockchain.info/wallet/website-faq
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byt411
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June 11, 2014, 09:50:48 PM |
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Hash a document proving all the stuff, hash it with SHA-256, use that as a private key. Send some BTC to that address and sign a message with it. If you need to verify in the future, simpy hash the proof again, and they will see that the hash is the same, and you had knowledge of the address and have sent BTC to it.
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June 11, 2014, 09:51:19 PM Last edit: June 11, 2014, 10:06:57 PM by franky1 |
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LOL!
Sorry, it was not supposed to be a plea for donations.
We're not interested in the state's interpretation of the validity of our contract, but I'll be happy to take a look at lifeonbitcoin.com.
Just to further clarify. We don't intend on paying for the wedding and honeymoon with bitcoins. That will likely be done with fiat. We'll book what we can through whomever we can (expedia at the moment). We're just storing our funds in BTC.
if your not interested in any legitimacy, im not talking about state, im talking human rights (EG medical, next of kin, child welfare etc) if you dont care about ensuring that no one in the world will recognise you as being legally tied to each other then............... ........... i now pronounce you man and wife. you may now kiss the bride. oh wait. does what i just said make it official that you are now together? like i said go see a lawyer about what the marriage certificate actually does beyond just the state taxes.. you may learn alot, and while your there ask if any contract that can be produced, be used to 'legitimise' the partnership in regards to protecting you in the future (predominantly guardianship of your child, next of kin after death, you know the real life stuff)
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celestio
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June 11, 2014, 10:47:04 PM |
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This actually seems like a good idea, might start a "marriage records in blockchain" frenzy
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Well hello there!
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June 11, 2014, 11:04:32 PM |
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Totally digging on this idea. Kudos on the not needing the "state endorsed" fancy paper!
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Keep it dense, yeah?
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June 11, 2014, 11:52:58 PM |
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on the wedding night reception, please have beyonce singing "if you like it, you should put a blockchain on it.. oh oh oh , a oh oh oh" now seriously. if you want success, make some video's. research http://lifeonbitcoin.com/ as a way to validate your donation plea. and then go speak to a lawyer about the validity of a marriage contract that is not state approved (not on their special paper) "if you sent it then you should have put a fee on it"
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BitsBitsBits
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June 11, 2014, 11:58:52 PM |
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on the wedding night reception, please have beyonce singing "if you like it, you should put a blockchain on it.. oh oh oh , a oh oh oh" now seriously. if you want success, make some video's. research http://lifeonbitcoin.com/ as a way to validate your donation plea. and then go speak to a lawyer about the validity of a marriage contract that is not state approved (not on their special paper) Haha, this made me laugh out loud. Imagine people using the blockchain as contracts for everything. "Hey you, go read your contract in block number 288.593 and remember what your job is!"
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jc01480
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June 12, 2014, 01:05:46 AM |
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Congratulations, OP! Just out of curiosity, will your children be recorded on the blockchain as well? Little Bits?
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Ron~Popeil
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June 12, 2014, 01:09:56 AM |
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Congratulations, big plus that your future wife is a bit coiner too.
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June 12, 2014, 01:41:30 AM |
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So, when(sry ) you're divorcing later you will both be hiding FIAT from eachother and not bitcoins..
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greenlion
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June 12, 2014, 02:24:09 AM |
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This procedure is only really as valid as the preponderance of people who at least vaguely understand the legitimacy of publicly uploading a hash digest of a document to the blockchain. There is no legal precedent that I'm aware of that in any way recognizes this kind of notary, but then again this being an experiment in statelessness, I guess it doesn't matter, at this point this is kind of a "are you allowed to swear alone in the woods" situation!
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June 12, 2014, 02:29:44 AM |
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So, when(sry ) you're divorcing later you will both be hiding FIAT from eachother and not bitcoins.. For this you need Peter Todd's replace-by-fee patch and it wouldn't hurt to have 51% of the mining power and then you can just double spend the record out of the blockchain. Seriously, franky1 is right, talk to an attorney just so you are aware of the legal consequences of the actions you are taking here.
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Ron~Popeil
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June 12, 2014, 02:34:14 AM |
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This procedure is only really as valid as the preponderance of people who at least vaguely understand the legitimacy of publicly uploading a hash digest of a document to the blockchain. There is no legal precedent that I'm aware of that in any way recognizes this kind of notary, but then again this being an experiment in statelessness, I guess it doesn't matter, at this point this is kind of a "are you allowed to swear alone in the woods" situation!
It proceeds from the premise that they don't need the state's blessing to engage in a partnership. I tend to agree with the premise.
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June 12, 2014, 02:45:55 AM |
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Good idea to put marriage contract in blockchain which is more secure and transparent. suggest someone creates marriage coin that combines all of these concepts together.
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