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Question: Should Utopianfuture be excluded from the NEM project after his scam conviction?  (Voting closed: June 26, 2014, 06:07:51 PM)
*YES: Exclude/Remove utopianfuture - 44 (47.8%)
*NO: Keep utopianfuture as Grand Leader nevertheless - 48 (52.2%)
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June 12, 2014, 06:07:51 PM
Last edit: June 14, 2014, 08:27:06 AM by Come-from-Above
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after utopianfuture has now been convicted of secretly claiming sockpuppet stakes of a supposedly "fairly distributed" NEM Project in his position of "grand leader" - the community question has been raised if or if not he should be excluded/removed from the project as a valid consequence.

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June 12, 2014, 06:37:00 PM
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You make valid arguments. You repeat valid arguments.

Calling a vote almost immediately is unnecessary and just perpetuates the hype (Which may be the intent, right?)

I want to see a statement from UP before any vote is cast - anything before (like this) has no credibility in my view.
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June 12, 2014, 06:38:35 PM
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You make valid arguments. You repeat valid arguments.

Calling a vote almost immediately is unnecessary and just perpetuates the hype (Which may be the intent, right?)

I want to see a statement from UP before any vote is cast - anything before (like this) has no credibility in my view.

I absolutly respect your opinion Thingamajig 

My opinion is let the community decide. I saw the facts, I dont need a statement

Betrayal is betrayal and it needs a vote

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June 12, 2014, 06:41:37 PM
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You are buzzing around this drama like you are a 12yo looking for chaos. Let the official NEM developpers sort it out, they are smart enough people. UP wasn't doing any development, technically didn't own any coin since the coins don't even exist yet. It's not your place to hold that vote.
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June 12, 2014, 06:43:30 PM
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Fairly Distributed sockpuppets

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June 12, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
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UP wasn't doing any development, technically didn't own any coin since the coins don't even exist yet.

hi city19akro. you are kind of wrong unfortunately, LOTS AND LOTS of Money is traded on Nxt AE exchange and the issuing rights of the NEM tokens traded has solely utopianfuture. he acts as the grand leader.

please dont post if you have no knowledge

I am part of the community as i own several nem stakes. I can open a vote anytime I want and u must accept this thank you for posting

btw "up wasn't doing any development" is a true statement. in fact hes just collecting the "financial freedom" caused by the project lol.


VOTES ARE in favour of utopianfuture at the moment and i respect this. in fact this is the reason i opened the poll. TO SEE THE GENERAL COMMUNITY OPINION and not what i beleive personally.

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June 12, 2014, 06:51:04 PM
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UP wasn't doing any development, technically didn't own any coin since the coins don't even exist yet.

hi city19akro. you are kind of wrong unfortunately, LOTS AND LOTS of Money is traded on Nxt AE exchange and the issuing rights of the NEM tokens traded has solely utopianfuture. he acts as the grand leader.

please dont post if you have no knowledge

I am part of the community as i own several nem stakes. I can open a vote anytime I want and u must accept this thank you for posting

btw "up wasn't doing any development" is a true statement. in fact hes just collecting the "financial freedom" caused by the project lol.


VOTES ARE in favour of utopianfuture at the moment and i respect this. in fact this is the reason i opened the poll. TO SEE THE GENERAL COMMUNITY OPINION and not what i beleive personally.

Whats more important is a close result. Because of how hasty this vote has been called, people are unable to make a rational, prudent vote. This vote is called far too early.

If given the option in the vote, most would've chosen to wait and see how things unfolded, and if we could get an official statement from UP. This is taking advantage of hype, all of which is not needed.
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June 12, 2014, 06:52:28 PM
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If given the option in the vote, most would've chosen to wait and see how things unfolded, and if we could get an official statement from UP. This is taking advantage of hype, all of which is not needed.

utopianfuture caused this "hype" not me

all i do is open the much needed voting

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June 12, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
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UP wasn't doing any development, technically didn't own any coin since the coins don't even exist yet.

hi city19akro. you are kind of wrong unfortunately, LOTS AND LOTS of Money is traded on Nxt AE exchange and the issuing rights of the NEM tokens traded has solely utopianfuture. he acts as the grand leader.

please dont post if you have no knowledge

I am part of the community as i own several nem stakes. I can open a vote anytime I want and u must accept this thank you for posting

btw "up wasn't doing any development" is a true statement. in fact hes just collecting the "financial freedom" caused by the project lol.


VOTES ARE in favour of utopianfuture at the moment and i respect this. in fact this is the reason i opened the poll. TO SEE THE GENERAL COMMUNITY OPINION and not what i beleive personally.

If given the option in the vote, most would've chosen to wait and see how things unfolded, and if we could get an official statement from UP. This is taking advantage of hype, all of which is not needed.

utopianfuture caused this "hype" not me

all i do is open the much needed voting

I don't know why I think that "Come-from-Above" might be UP.... that is weird. No way to be sure now now.

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June 12, 2014, 07:02:06 PM
Last edit: June 12, 2014, 07:16:56 PM by Come-from-Above
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seems like its still a 50:50  (14:14)  at the moment. community undecided?

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June 12, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
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seems like its still a 50:50  (14:14)  at the moment. community undecided?


Of course it is. I just explained why.

It's too early, people can't make an informed decision.


If this vote was to have any merits, it would also provided a choice of "Wait until further developments or a statement is released".
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June 12, 2014, 07:27:27 PM
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I think somebody is trying to manipulate the opinions of the people and the price to buy cheap.
There is a saying: horses in midstream not change.

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June 12, 2014, 07:38:47 PM
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this just came in from NEM Community Message Board:

"WE MUST PROTECT BELOVED LEADER!  destroy CfB defector!!!!"



(note: joke.)

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June 12, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
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this just came in from NEM Community Message Board:

"WE MUST PROTECT BELOVED LEADER!  destroy CfB defector!!!!"



(note: fuck the utopianfuture guy.)

-bm


 Grin lol, fits it pretty well for sure!

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June 12, 2014, 08:25:25 PM
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Find a way to prove that Utopianfuture doesn't have any more sockpuppet stakes. That is the only thing that will save NEM.

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June 12, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
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Remove , Utopianfuture, he probably has 1,000 sockpuppet stakes in NEM. He scammed us all..scammed us all.
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June 12, 2014, 08:37:07 PM
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Seeing all the NEMer's coming to terms with this is like cult members finding out their leader has been having sex with all their daughters.




Excuse me for enjoying the moment.



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June 12, 2014, 08:55:02 PM
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Seeing all the NEMer's coming to terms with this is like cult members finding out their leader has been having sex with all their daughters.

Excuse me for enjoying the moment.

I thought the thing was hilariously dumb even before they IPOd.  I actually had a few interactions with UtopianFuture on the NXT forums(which are far more bizarre, interesting, and unreliable than anything you see on BTT).

I pointed out the fact that they had no technical plan.  I suppose a combination of investment enthusiasm and good-ol sock puppetry made it look as though my questioning was inappropriate.  I guess it wasnt.

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June 12, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
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UP could resign himself and give Nem more credibility. I wonder if he will do it though.


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June 12, 2014, 09:21:41 PM
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UP could resign himself and give Nem more credibility. I wonder if he will do it though.

the only thing NEM has left is a number of people who don't want to appear as if they were fooled.

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