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June 12, 2014, 07:29:09 PM
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If THAT hits the market, we'r talking disaster....absolute anihilatio of price for quiet some time.

One can only hope that you are correct.  I'm looking forward to picking up some cheap bitcoins.

On the other hand, it's only 174,000 BTC.  That's about the same amount of bitcoins that are created every 48 days.

How much is market deapth right now? I doubdt it would suck em up before we hit double digit numbers....

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June 12, 2014, 07:29:36 PM
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If THAT hits the market, we'r talking disaster....absolute anihilatio of price for quiet some time.

I don't think this would be the case.   Yes the price would plummet for a little while, but there is plenty of money waiting on the sidelines, I can guarantee you that much..
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June 12, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
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If THAT hits the market, we'r talking disaster....absolute anihilatio of price for quiet some time.

One can only hope that you are correct.  I'm looking forward to picking up some cheap bitcoins.

On the other hand, it's only 174,000 BTC.  That's about the same amount of bitcoins that are created every 48 days.

Likewise, I can't imagine it will drop too far below 400, if it does I think everyone will buy coins and drive it back up. I would rather the coins be returned back to Circulation as opposed to just sitting in Cold Storage to never be used and to be constantly speculated upon.

-tin foil hat- Maybe they are going to crash the market so the media will pump out a bunch of garbage about how unstable Bitcoin is and deter people even more, then at-least the people who truly believe in the Bitcoin protocol will get cheaper coins before people realize the numerous and varied benefits of Bitcoin.
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June 12, 2014, 07:39:08 PM
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The folks holding this stash of BTC have a fiduciary responsibility to maintain the value of the assets seized, so they aren't just going to stupidly dump them on the market folks. They will hold an auction or other negotiations to get near the market rate without tanking the market. But I'm skeptical they would dispose of them any time soon. The wheels of justice (and judicial bureaucracy) grind all too slowly.

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June 12, 2014, 10:47:47 PM
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Wondering if this has anything to do with the mini crash happening right now...

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June 12, 2014, 10:53:29 PM
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The folks holding this stash of BTC have a fiduciary responsibility to maintain the value of the assets seized, so they aren't just going to stupidly dump them on the market folks. They will hold an auction or other negotiations to get near the market rate without tanking the market. But I'm skeptical they would dispose of them any time soon. The wheels of justice (and judicial bureaucracy) grind all too slowly.

With seized assets it can be more complicated then that. No one really knows where the price of bitcoin is going to go in the near future. It is often stipulated between the parties (the defendant and the government) if and how assets will be sold. If it cannot be agreed upon then it would usually be in an auction.
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June 12, 2014, 10:58:55 PM
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The folks holding this stash of BTC have a fiduciary responsibility to maintain the value of the assets seized, so they aren't just going to stupidly dump them on the market folks. They will hold an auction or other negotiations to get near the market rate without tanking the market. But I'm skeptical they would dispose of them any time soon. The wheels of justice (and judicial bureaucracy) grind all too slowly.

Or they could just hold onto them knowing that they can have at least a small little handle on the market.   They love the feeling of power like that...
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June 12, 2014, 11:02:05 PM
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Wondering if this has anything to do with the mini crash happening right now...

Actually Coindesk has cited that those coins will be auctioned off on 6/27 with the following rules:

"As part of the auction, the Silk Road bitcoins will be divided into two phases for eligible bidders.

The US Marshals Service (USMS) has effectively split the 30,000 BTC into nine blocks of 3,000 BTC and 1 block of 2,656.51306529 BTC, known as “Series A” and “Series B” blocks, respectively.

All interested buyers must register with the US Marshals Service (USMS) in order to be eligible for the auction. Aspiring participants must provide the following to the federal agency:

A $200,000 deposit sent by wire transfer from a bank located in the US
A copy of a government-issued photo ID
A manually signed PDF copy of the bidder registration form."
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June 12, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
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Is this really a bad thing?
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June 12, 2014, 11:02:49 PM
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Many people seem to think the buyer will just dump all the coins at once, resulting in the last ones being sold very cheaply. First of all, we don't even know he/she will want to sell all of them. But if so, he will probably sell a little but everyday to get better rates. I Will buy as many coins as I can afford after the market has reacted to this news.


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June 15, 2014, 06:21:00 AM
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Many people seem to think the buyer will just dump all the coins at once, resulting in the last ones being sold very cheaply. First of all, we don't even know he/she will want to sell all of them. But if so, he will probably sell a little but everyday to get better rates. I Will buy as many coins as I can afford after the market has reacted to this news.

If the buyer(s) buy the coins hoping to arbitrage between their price (from the FBI) and the price on exchanges they would likely sell right away.

if they were hoping to simply buy at a discount and think bitcoin is a good investment then they would likely not sell anytime soon.
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June 15, 2014, 06:24:21 AM
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Many people seem to think the buyer will just dump all the coins at once, resulting in the last ones being sold very cheaply. First of all, we don't even know he/she will want to sell all of them. But if so, he will probably sell a little but everyday to get better rates. I Will buy as many coins as I can afford after the market has reacted to this news.

If the buyer(s) buy the coins hoping to arbitrage between their price (from the FBI) and the price on exchanges they would likely sell right away.

if they were hoping to simply buy at a discount and think bitcoin is a good investment then they would likely not sell anytime soon.
Sadly all of them or most of them will dump the coins ASAP.

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June 15, 2014, 08:23:41 PM
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Many people seem to think the buyer will just dump all the coins at once, resulting in the last ones being sold very cheaply. First of all, we don't even know he/she will want to sell all of them. But if so, he will probably sell a little but everyday to get better rates. I Will buy as many coins as I can afford after the market has reacted to this news.

If the buyer(s) buy the coins hoping to arbitrage between their price (from the FBI) and the price on exchanges they would likely sell right away.

if they were hoping to simply buy at a discount and think bitcoin is a good investment then they would likely not sell anytime soon.
Sadly all of them or most of them will dump the coins ASAP.

I don't know that it would be all of them.

There are a number of people/large institutions that wish to invest in bitcoin but may not trust the exchanges. This would be a good opportunity to be able to purchase
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June 15, 2014, 08:31:34 PM
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Many people seem to think the buyer will just dump all the coins at once, resulting in the last ones being sold very cheaply. First of all, we don't even know he/she will want to sell all of them. But if so, he will probably sell a little but everyday to get better rates. I Will buy as many coins as I can afford after the market has reacted to this news.

If the buyer(s) buy the coins hoping to arbitrage between their price (from the FBI) and the price on exchanges they would likely sell right away.

if they were hoping to simply buy at a discount and think bitcoin is a good investment then they would likely not sell anytime soon.
Sadly all of them or most of them will dump the coins ASAP.

It is not going to dump only big investor will buying Silk Road coins.
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June 15, 2014, 08:36:29 PM
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Many people seem to think the buyer will just dump all the coins at once, resulting in the last ones being sold very cheaply. First of all, we don't even know he/she will want to sell all of them. But if so, he will probably sell a little but everyday to get better rates. I Will buy as many coins as I can afford after the market has reacted to this news.

If the buyer(s) buy the coins hoping to arbitrage between their price (from the FBI) and the price on exchanges they would likely sell right away.

if they were hoping to simply buy at a discount and think bitcoin is a good investment then they would likely not sell anytime soon.
Sadly all of them or most of them will dump the coins ASAP.

I don't know that it would be all of them.

There are a number of people/large institutions that wish to invest in bitcoin but may not trust the exchanges. This would be a good opportunity to be able to purchase
Or they will get sold quite cheap as someone will see quick oportunity of nice profit.

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June 15, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
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I don't know that it would be all of them.

There are a number of people/large institutions that wish to invest in bitcoin but may not trust the exchanges. This would be a good opportunity to be able to purchase
Or they will get sold quite cheap as someone will see quick oportunity of nice profit.

As long as there are few investors realizing it is zero risk way to buy BTC for the first time in history, these coins will be sold at premium (I guess +10% to +25%)

Shame these coins are not auctioned in bulk of 10 instead, there would be huge interest from normal people

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June 15, 2014, 11:31:29 PM
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If THAT hits the market, we'r talking disaster....absolute anihilatio of price for quiet some time.
Read "8.3 days added to the Bitcoin year". 3,600 new coins are generated every day, somehow the price does not collapse. Could it be because people are melting fiat for crypto each day?



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