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June 13, 2014, 01:24:09 PM
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I think this may lead to good things and/or bad things. What are your thoughts?

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INDIANAPOLIS | Representatives and senators from 29 states met Thursday in the Indiana Statehouse to begin planning for the first state-led revisions to the U.S. Constitution since the nation's fundamental governing document was enacted in 1789.

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June 13, 2014, 01:34:51 PM
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I think this may lead to good things and/or bad things. What are your thoughts?

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INDIANAPOLIS | Representatives and senators from 29 states met Thursday in the Indiana Statehouse to begin planning for the first state-led revisions to the U.S. Constitution since the nation's fundamental governing document was enacted in 1789.

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This can lead to very bad things.  Simply throw the 225 year old constitution over board, and for what? The Germans also once changed the constitution  Roll Eyes

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June 16, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
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I think this may lead to good things and/or bad things. What are your thoughts?

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INDIANAPOLIS | Representatives and senators from 29 states met Thursday in the Indiana Statehouse to begin planning for the first state-led revisions to the U.S. Constitution since the nation's fundamental governing document was enacted in 1789.

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Why? and what for? are my main thoughts. Maybe we should work harder on upholding and abiding by what we have now first.
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June 16, 2014, 12:21:40 PM
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the problem with the constitution and amendments early on is that they left out a key phrase

"And the courts shall make no rulings"

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June 16, 2014, 12:26:37 PM
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Then how is the constitutionality of any law to be determined?

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June 16, 2014, 12:30:53 PM
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the problem with the constitution and amendments early on is that they left out a key phrase

"And the courts shall make no rulings"
Depends upon what the meaning of "is" is ... "Shall" has been held by some courts to be subject to conjecture. In my state, "shall" and "may" have been replaced with "will" and "will not" in legislation where discretion is neither intended nor desired.

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June 16, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
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Maybe we should work harder on upholding and abiding by what we have now first.

+1

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June 16, 2014, 02:29:45 PM
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Then how is the constitutionality of any law to be determined?
What does this line mean- congress shall make no laws

It means Congress Shall Not Interfere.

If CONGRESS Is Not Supposed To Interfere, Why Should Tthe Courts Be Allowed To?


THE ORIGINAL INTENT was that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT- NO MATTER WHAT PART- SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED OR INTERFERE IN THESE MATTERS.

They were for the states to figure out on their own.

That way each state could work things so that they would best work in that state.

Each state is different in its makeup and in other ways.

The basic rights would be the same since basically people are pretty much the same.

BUT NOT IDENTICAL. And the states would not each have identical ANYTHING.

But each state would have its own way of handling things that fit the best for THAT STATE.

But the bottom line is that the federal government had no business trying to tell the states what to do in those areas

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June 16, 2014, 02:49:40 PM
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What are they planning on revising?

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June 16, 2014, 02:54:52 PM
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Hopefully the 2nd amendment now that we are no longer in the 18th century........

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June 16, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
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Burning whole document and starting new might be the best option. As non-citizen I haven't understood the worship of it.

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June 16, 2014, 03:03:06 PM
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I wouldn't count on this happening anytime soon.

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June 16, 2014, 03:08:10 PM
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I wouldn't count on this happening anytime soon.
If a valid constitutional convention occurs, it/they are not limited in scope. Everything is up for grabs.
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June 16, 2014, 03:41:10 PM
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I think this may lead to good things and/or bad things. What are your thoughts?

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INDIANAPOLIS | Representatives and senators from 29 states met Thursday in the Indiana Statehouse to begin planning for the first state-led revisions to the U.S. Constitution since the nation's fundamental governing document was enacted in 1789.

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This can lead to very bad things.  Simply throw the 225 year old constitution over board, and for what? The Germans also once changed the constitution  Roll Eyes

The cops SWORE... swore a FUCKING OATH to uphold the constitution AND DO NOT.. every single one is a god damn tratior.. They did not swear to uphold some BS laws criminals wrote.. they swore to up hold the constitution and do not.  It's be dead for awhile.. who cares.
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June 16, 2014, 03:43:47 PM
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Hopefully the 2nd amendment now that we are no longer in the 18th century........


Do you believe that because you have done your research, understood the negatives and postives, or just listened to the media.

DID you know gun violence has been dropping for over 15 YEARS? Oh no becaues the media won't stop talking about all the gun violence we have so you just assumed it's getting worse?

....  The game going on right now is in such open sight.. I... just wow.
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June 16, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
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Burning whole document and starting new might be the best option. As non-citizen I haven't understood the worship of it.

People respect the U.S. Constitution because it was the best attempt ever made to protect citizens from government evil.

It failed because people lost respect for the principles it was based upon.

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