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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iraq-isis-c...ovince-1452401The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (Isis) has imposed a strict set of Sharia laws on the citizens of Nineveh province just days after capturing the provincial capital of Mosul.
In a document circulating on social media attributed to the group, Isis warned tribal leaders and sheikhs not to "work with [the Iraqi] government and be traitors" while proclaiming that women should only go outside if absolutely necessary.
"For women, dress decently and wear wide clothes. Only go out if needed," read the document as translated by Al Aan TV reporter Jenan Moussa.
Further rules included bans on drugs, alcohol and cigarettes while public gatherings, the possession of guns and the carrying of flags not of the Islamic state were outlawed.
"For those asking who are you? We are soldiers of Islam and took on our responsiblity to bring back glory of the Islamic Caliphate.
"Money we took from [the] Safavid government is now public. Only Imam of Muslims can spend it. Anyone who steals [will have their] hands cut," the document translation read. Without the eradication of Islam, this savagery is to be expected. Trying to civilize a group of savages who would rather live in the 11th century instead of the 21st was a waste of American blood and money. Hopefully we learn from this colossal mistake. Islam have never been the problem, one of the richest countries in the world where property rights are protected, are muslim countries : Singapour, Dubaï (UEA), Malaysia ... People don't talk about religion there, they re too busy, they work.
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June 15, 2014, 09:22:25 AM |
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Islam have never been the problem, one of the richest countries in the world where property rights are protected, are muslim countries : Singapour, Dubaï (UEA), Malaysia ... People don't talk about religion there, they re too busy, they work.
So Singapore is a Muslim country now? WTF? When I checked their stats a month ago, they were 55% Buddhist and 11% Muslim. Now Muslims have become the majority?
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June 15, 2014, 02:39:22 PM |
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Islam have never been the problem, one of the richest countries in the world where property rights are protected, are muslim countries : Singapour, Dubaï (UEA), Malaysia ... People don't talk about religion there, they re too busy, they work.
So Singapore is a Muslim country now? WTF? When I checked their stats a month ago, they were 55% Buddhist and 11% Muslim. Now Muslims have become the majority? Oh Sorry this was a mistake, I just checked and it's 15 % of the population, but anyway this is a big portion of the population, and they are not causing troubles there. The first president of Singapour was muslim. And how about the other countries ? Malysia, UEA, Indonisia, they're doing pretty well
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June 15, 2014, 10:36:31 PM |
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iraq-isis-c...ovince-1452401The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (Isis) has imposed a strict set of Sharia laws on the citizens of Nineveh province just days after capturing the provincial capital of Mosul.
In a document circulating on social media attributed to the group, Isis warned tribal leaders and sheikhs not to "work with [the Iraqi] government and be traitors" while proclaiming that women should only go outside if absolutely necessary.
"For women, dress decently and wear wide clothes. Only go out if needed," read the document as translated by Al Aan TV reporter Jenan Moussa.
Further rules included bans on drugs, alcohol and cigarettes while public gatherings, the possession of guns and the carrying of flags not of the Islamic state were outlawed.
"For those asking who are you? We are soldiers of Islam and took on our responsiblity to bring back glory of the Islamic Caliphate.
"Money we took from [the] Safavid government is now public. Only Imam of Muslims can spend it. Anyone who steals [will have their] hands cut," the document translation read. Without the eradication of Islam, this savagery is to be expected. Trying to civilize a group of savages who would rather live in the 11th century instead of the 21st was a waste of American blood and money. Hopefully we learn from this colossal mistake. You sir are an idiot!
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June 16, 2014, 02:59:19 AM |
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Iran now sends troops into Iraq to help them fight the U.S.-supported extremists... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/14/iran-iraq-isis-fight-militants-nouri-malikiYour tax dollars at work. The confirmation comes as the Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, said Iran was ready to support Iraq from the mortal threat fast spreading through the country, while the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, called on citizens to take up arms in their country's defence.
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June 16, 2014, 03:27:26 AM |
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Philippines comes in the same category of religious fanatic nations. The country is suffering from an awful lot of overpopulation, and yet the Catholic clergy there recently forced the government to abandon plans for popularizing family planning.
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June 16, 2014, 03:33:57 AM |
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Iran now sends troops into Iraq to help them fight the U.S.-supported extremists... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/14/iran-iraq-isis-fight-militants-nouri-malikiYour tax dollars at work. The confirmation comes as the Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, said Iran was ready to support Iraq from the mortal threat fast spreading through the country, while the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, called on citizens to take up arms in their country's defence. Ok , so I'm not getting this anymore. Right now Iran is Helping the Iraq army to fight the insurgents (rebels) , so they are on the same side as the US.? Iran has sent 2,000 advance troops to Iraq in the past 48 hours to help tackle a jihadist insurgency, a senior Iraqi official has told the Guardian Last time I tried to find out who is fighting who in Syria and went through the almost 20 factions at work there I ended up with a headache. Seems like same story here...
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June 16, 2014, 03:56:54 PM |
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There are big differences between that Christianity and Islam. they are able for compensations but at a much smaller scale than it actually happens. and from the religious point of view Christianity is weaker than Islam, much weaker, proof being their status today.
There are plenty who do that. Those who engaged in the Rwandan Genocide were / are Christian, when the interahammwe re-entered Rwanda their operational bases were codenamed Bethlehem and Nazareth. The weren't fighting in the name of Christianity and trying to bring about a Christian state ....
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June 16, 2014, 04:01:23 PM |
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They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
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June 16, 2014, 04:03:19 PM |
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They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
It's not a apples to apples comparison
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June 16, 2014, 04:07:33 PM |
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They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
It's not a apples to apples comparison Would the Lord's Resistance Army be a better comparison for you? Killing tens of thousands, kidnapping even more, marching in the formation of crosses, fighting with holy water, declaring a state based on the ten commandments, etc?
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June 16, 2014, 04:15:07 PM |
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Their bleating that all cultures must be respected is such garbage.
"Tolerance And Apathy Are The Last Virtues Of A Dying Society" - Aristotle Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society has been falsely attributed to Aristotle over the years. The true Aristotle quote is, difference of race is a cause of faction, until harmony of spirit is reached ; for just as any chance multitude of people does not form a state, so a state is not formed in any chance period of time.
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June 16, 2014, 04:17:41 PM |
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They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
It's not a apples to apples comparison Would the Lord's Resistance Army be a better comparison for you? Killing tens of thousands, kidnapping even more, marching in the formation of crosses, fighting with holy water, declaring a state based on the ten commandments, etc? Yep child sex slavery follows fundamentalist rules of Christianity. The big difference between Islamic fundamentalist and Christian cult derivatives is that the Islamist are just following the Koran with their brutality and the "Christians" are just using the guise of religion to rape, murder, and kill which doesn't follow any Christian teachings.
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June 16, 2014, 04:23:51 PM |
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Would the Lord's Resistance Army be a better comparison for you? Killing tens of thousands, kidnapping even more, marching in the formation of crosses, fighting with holy water, declaring a state based on the ten commandments, etc?
But you should also remember that 99% of the victims of the atrocities committed by the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) were Christians themselves. The LRA never targets Muslims, as it receives most of the arms and ammunition from Khartoum.
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June 16, 2014, 04:24:22 PM |
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
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June 16, 2014, 04:27:27 PM |
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite.
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June 16, 2014, 04:29:26 PM |
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite. Once again, they would completely disagree with you. Just like you and radical Muslims ignore Islamic scholars who call groups like Boko Haram un-islamic.
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June 16, 2014, 04:30:13 PM |
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
1. Again, the Interahamwe targeted people belonging to the Tutsi ethnic group (Christian or non-Christian, it doesn't matter). Religion was not used to distinguish the victims. 2. Chetniks / Ustaše also killed people based on ethnicity. The Ustaše were even collaborating with the Muslims, to fight against the Serbs. 3. NLFT of India. Yes... it is a religious driven group. Receives a lot of funds from the Southern Baptists in the United States, and use them to forcibly convert the tribal population to Christianity.
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