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Yes. Which is exactly the problem caused by this "hearts and minds" nonsense. Toss out Maliki, put in a Kurdish strongman who aligns his country with the US, and encourage him to start butchering Sunni Arabs who resist. Saddam could have EASILY put this nonsense down with a bit of well placed brutality. I mean, look at the Anfal campaign to see how to properly do counter-insurgency in the Muslim world. People like ISIS don't understand anything except brute force, which is exactly why they need iron fisted dictators like Bashar Assad or Saddam Hussein to keep them in line.
I agree. Nobody wants to f.... with the Kurds, and they will fuck with anyone. It may be hard to accomplish anything with them because we fucked them under George Bush 1's incursion into Iraq, and instead of getting help from the US, they got gassed by Saddam. For some reason, I have always had a fascination with Kurds. They are awesome, in my opinion. Maybe this is why: When I was a kid (age 14), I played Metal Gear Solid and that was my first introduction to Kurds. Sniper Wolf from Metal Gear Solid is a Kurd. In fact, Metal Gear Solid was one of my chief influences for joining the U.S. Military. After I finished my U.S. Army service, including a deployment to Kuwait, I went back to the University of Colorado at Denver and finished my Political Science Degree. I spent some free time during college studying Kurds and found them to be even more interesting than what Sniper Wolf alone in Metal Gear Solid could be.
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June 19, 2014, 03:13:31 PM |
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Largest Refinery not largest oil fields ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . The fields are still safe... for now. Check this map: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2Fnol%2Fshared%2Fspl%2Fhi%2Fmiddle_east%2F02%2Firaq_key_maps%2Fimg%2Fmaps%2Firaq_oil_map485.gif&t=665&c=yPmASiznnxMZsw) Compare it with the territory currently under the control of ISIS. You can see that all the three major pipelines (those to Baghdad, Basra and Turkey), goes through the ISIS controlled territory.
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June 19, 2014, 04:33:04 PM |
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Largest Refinery not largest oil fields ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . The fields are still safe... for now. Check this map: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2Fnol%2Fshared%2Fspl%2Fhi%2Fmiddle_east%2F02%2Firaq_key_maps%2Fimg%2Fmaps%2Firaq_oil_map485.gif&t=665&c=yPmASiznnxMZsw) Compare it with the territory currently under the control of ISIS. You can see that all the three major pipelines (those to Baghdad, Basra and Turkey), goes through the ISIS controlled territory. And now we are talking about pipelines? OK... now we have confirmation that ISIS has indeed captured the largest Iraqi oil field. Prepare for oil prices @ $160 per barrel. You said fields. Stick to the fields ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 19, 2014, 05:35:44 PM |
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Yes. Which is exactly the problem caused by this "hearts and minds" nonsense. Toss out Maliki, put in a Kurdish strongman who aligns his country with the US, and encourage him to start butchering Sunni Arabs who resist. Saddam could have EASILY put this nonsense down with a bit of well placed brutality. I mean, look at the Anfal campaign to see how to properly do counter-insurgency in the Muslim world. People like ISIS don't understand anything except brute force, which is exactly why they need iron fisted dictators like Bashar Assad or Saddam Hussein to keep them in line.
I agree. Nobody wants to f.... with the Kurds, and they will fuck with anyone. It may be hard to accomplish anything with them because we fucked them under George Bush 1's incursion into Iraq, and instead of getting help from the US, they got gassed by Saddam. For some reason, I have always had a fascination with Kurds. They are awesome, in my opinion. Maybe this is why: When I was a kid (age 14), I played Metal Gear Solid and that was my first introduction to Kurds. Sniper Wolf from Metal Gear Solid is a Kurd. In fact, Metal Gear Solid was one of my chief influences for joining the U.S. Military. After I finished my U.S. Army service, including a deployment to Kuwait, I went back to the University of Colorado at Denver and finished my Political Science Degree. I spent some free time during college studying Kurds and found them to be even more interesting than what Sniper Wolf alone in Metal Gear Solid could be. Kurds don't play games. They don't take kindly to radical Muslims, either. Muslims tend to scatter when word is the Kurds are coming.
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June 20, 2014, 03:43:57 AM |
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You said fields. Stick to the fields ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They have taken the biggest oil field as well. The biggest Iraqi oil field is located to the north-west of Kirkuk. It was taken by the ISIS a week ago. Anyway, without the oil pipeline, how can they transport the oil? There are no rail-links.
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June 20, 2014, 03:51:39 AM |
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You said fields. Stick to the fields ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They have taken the biggest oil field as well. The biggest Iraqi oil field is located to the north-west of Kirkuk. It was taken by the ISIS a week ago. Anyway, without the oil pipeline, how can they transport the oil? There are no rail-links. Again , false statement. The biggest oil field is Rumaila field followed by Majnoon , both in southern Iraq.
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June 20, 2014, 04:41:02 AM |
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Again , false statement. The biggest oil field is Rumaila field followed by Majnoon , both in southern Iraq.
OK. I was wrong. The Kirkuk field is the second largest, in terms of daily oil production. Majnoon is a very small field, in terms of daily production (around 200,000 barrels / day). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fmritems%2FImages%2F2011%2F12%2F28%2F20111228132834721734_20.png&t=665&c=IJFVHtHA-R__ag)
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June 20, 2014, 04:53:33 AM |
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Outdated map. Numbers are form 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majnoon_oil_fieldThe contract with Shell and Petronas includes drilling over 40 production wells, construction of three gas separation stations and two crude oil processing refineries with overall capacity of 100,000 barrels per day (16,000 m3/d).[1][2] The official start date was March 1, 2010.[12] In the Phase I of the project, the consortium intends t o increase the production from 45,000 to 175,000 barrels per day (27,800 m3/d) within two-year period. Current production of oil 200,000 barrels per day Also , kirkuk is a dying oil field: Production at Kirkuk, discovered in 1927, has declined to 260,000 barrels a day from 900,000 barrels a day in the early 2000s, after years of injecting water and the dumping of unwanted crude and other oil products in the field.
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June 21, 2014, 12:37:58 PM |
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June 21, 2014, 12:55:43 PM |
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Kurdish weaponry itself is medieval. They are armed with AK-47 and RPGs, while the ISIS is armed with captured Humvees, Artillery guns and tanks. Anyway it is not the job of the Kurdish Peshmerga. The cowards of the Iraqi Army should fight ISIS.
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June 21, 2014, 01:45:15 PM |
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Kurdish weaponry itself is medieval. They are armed with AK-47 and RPGs, while the ISIS is armed with captured Humvees, Artillery guns and tanks. Anyway it is not the job of the Kurdish Peshmerga. The cowards of the Iraqi Army should fight ISIS. AK-47 is a relatively good gun, but I don't think it can stop tanks or humvees ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Then again, in a battle it is not always the one with the best weapons that "wins".
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June 21, 2014, 02:46:33 PM |
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AK-47 is a relatively good gun, but I don't think it can stop tanks or humvees ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Then again, in a battle it is not always the one with the best weapons that "wins". May be. But in a theoretical ISIS vs Peshmerga battle, the former enjoys the following advantages: 1. Familiarity with the terrain (fighting is taking place mostly in Sunni Arab populated areas). 2. Local support from natives. 3. Better tactics and weapons than the Kurds. 4. Support from all over the Sunni Arab world. 5. High morale.
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June 22, 2014, 06:31:06 PM |
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Iraq militants 'turning back clock' in captured Mosul In the two weeks since it was seized by Sunni militants, some residents of the northern Iraq city of Mosul feel the clock has been turned back hundreds of years. The militants, led by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) jihadist group, have begun imposing an extreme interpretation of Islamic law in the days since they took the city, residents reached by telephone told AFP. "These militants will return us and our country hundreds of years backwards, and their laws are the opposite of the laws of human rights and international laws," said Umm Mohammed, a 35-year-old teacher. "We live in continuous fear of being subjected to new pressures," she said. "We are afraid of being prevented from working and contributing to building the community." The city, known before 2003 for its historic sites and parks and in later years as a hub for deadly violence, fell on June 10 to the militants, who subsequently overran surrounding Nineveh province and swathes of other territory. Security forces in Mosul, a city of some two million people before the offensive, wilted in the face of the onslaught, in some cases abandoning uniforms and even vehicles in their haste to flee. http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-militants-turning-back-clock-captured-mosul-133453638.html;_ylt=AwrBJR9J.qZTUTgAqznQtDMD
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June 22, 2014, 06:45:15 PM |
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ISIS Issues Mandate To Single Mosul Women: “Mujahideen Have Right To Rape You”In the name of Allah the mercyful Now that the liberation of the Nineveh province by the mujahideen is a fact, the mujahideen feel the warm welcoming by their brothers and sisters in the province of Nineveh. Following the defeat of the sectarian army, god willing, we vow that this province will remain safe and protected by the mujahideen. Therefor, we ask all the people of this province to bring forward unmarried women so they fulfill their duty of pleasing their brothers, the mujahideen. Who ever fails to comply, shall face consequences imposed by the sharia law. June 13th Nineveh province -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would be nice if a bitcoiner could confirm or reject that translation as accurate. If it is for real hopefully all feminists will engage against those evil people...
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June 22, 2014, 06:48:02 PM |
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You Can Now Buy ISIS Branded Clothing Online…ISIS—the Islamic militant group that’s on a scorched-earth march to overthrow the government of Iraq—is known for being as savvy on social media as it is deadly on the ground. The group’s online marketing had helped turn ISIS into a global brand, and now the terrorist network even boasts its own clothing line. That’s right: Online retailers have begun selling ISIS-themed T-shirts and hoodies. If you’d like a unique cover-up for the beach this summer and don’t mind a lot of black, you can purchase a sweatshirt with the group’s full name—Islamic State of Iraq and Syria—written in bleak white lettering. Another design features the group’s acronym, ISIS, surrounded by automatic weapons and a map of the world, in an apparent reference to the group’s global ambition. Zirah Moslem, a company that calls itself purveyors of “Islamic style,” offers merchandise promoting various terrorist causes, including ISIS. The company’s website, which has more than 9,000 likes on Facebook, says its T-shirts feature “a design that is…always up to date,” which apparently means having a group of kaffiyeh-wearing jihadis pose as if they’re promoting a Hollywood blockbuster. http://www.vocativ.com/world/iraq-world/can-now-buy-isis-hoodie-online/
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June 23, 2014, 02:31:44 AM Last edit: June 23, 2014, 04:32:52 AM by jaberwock |
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Those towns captured are predominantly Sunni areas. Which are ready to support Sunni militants. The Shiite militants are now ready take this terrorist. Let's wait and see who will win.
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