IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner

[Spendulus]

If somebody produces those emails he's a hero.  However within the year he will commit the usual government related "suicide".

Whistle-blowers are generally protected under federal law. Therefore it would be illegal for anyone to retaliate against them for producing evidence against the IRS. Also once the evidence is released the "damage" would have been done to the Obama administration and testimony would generally not be necessary, so faking his suicide would do little for president Obama

We could also say something like "The IRS does not GENERALLY lose emails and have important computers crash" but drawing a conclusion from that would be ridiculous, since the case involves purposeful breaking of the rules and the law.

Once a country's federal level Justic Dept.  is corrupted all bets are off.

[dankkk]

If somebody produces those emails he's a hero.  However within the year he will commit the usual government related "suicide".

Whistle-blowers are generally protected under federal law. Therefore it would be illegal for anyone to retaliate against them for producing evidence against the IRS. Also once the evidence is released the "damage" would have been done to the Obama administration and testimony would generally not be necessary, so faking his suicide would do little for president Obama

We could also say something like "The IRS does not GENERALLY lose emails and have important computers crash" but drawing a conclusion from that would be ridiculous, since the case involves purposeful breaking of the rules and the law.

Once a country's federal level Justic Dept.  is corrupted all bets are off.

The alleged crime involves the current administration, and the DOJ is headed by a member of the administration, therefore it would never be unbiased. The only appropriate response in this kind of situation would be to appoint a special prosecutor or a special investigator to pursue potential charges.

[Wilikon]

Producer of anti-Obamacare movie ‘Sick and Sicker’ hit with IRS audit


The producer of a new movie that criticizes Obamacare has reportedly become the latest prominent conservative slapped with an IRS audit.

Logan Clements, producer of “Sick and Sicker: ObamaCare Canadian Style,” announced via press release Tuesday that he is being audited for the first time ever.

The news comes one month after the conservative Breitbart News announced that it, too, was being audited and that the action was probably politically motivated.

Mr. Clements‘ movie makes the case that Obamacare will eventually lead to socialized medicine like Canada.

In the video, he says the IRS is demanding a “ridiculously long list” of documents, including “a detailed description of all transactions related to all prior year returns and supporting documentation.”

“It sounds like a fishing expedition by the IRS to tie me up for a very long time in retaliation for making a movie against Obamacare,” Mr. Clements says. “Perhaps they were hoping that voters wouldn’t see my movie before the election by keeping me tied up in a battle with the IRS. Well, in fact, their action is going to have the complete opposite effect.”

The conservative vowed to fight back by releasing “Sick and Sicker” immediately to entire states online using a “statewide open screening license,” in order to get the message out before Nov. 4.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/7/producer-of-anti-obamacare-movie-hit-irs-audit/



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The dog that ate those hard drives by mistake is responsible for triggering that random IRS audit.

[omgbossis21]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

[Spendulus]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

[TECSHARE]

Lois Lerner tries busting into neighbor's home to evade questions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u88vMSbX_xA#t=85
HAAHAHHAHHAA

[money420weed]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

This.

The reason no one is doing anything serious about this is because the executive branch is run by obama and the senate is controlled by reid. He is essentially able to stop any bills that obama does not like and is able to ram through any nomination that Obama appoints.

[Spendulus]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

This.

The reason no one is doing anything serious about this is because the executive branch is run by obama and the senate is controlled by reid. He is essentially able to stop any bills that obama does not like and is able to ram through any nomination that Obama appoints.

Yes.

The people do have the power to put a stop to this nonsense in the next 30 days.

[redHeadBlunder]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

This.

The reason no one is doing anything serious about this is because the executive branch is run by obama and the senate is controlled by reid. He is essentially able to stop any bills that obama does not like and is able to ram through any nomination that Obama appoints.

Yes.

The people do have the power to put a stop to this nonsense in the next 30 days.

I think it will only slow down the nonsense as Obama will still be president and the legislature can only do so much when the president is not in agreement with them. Also it is unlikely that the GOP will be able to gain a supermajority in the senate nor a large enough majority to override a veto.

I think it is important to win the senate in order to prevent presidential nominees from being rammed through the confirmation process, however I think this will make few other changes

[Spendulus]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

This.

The reason no one is doing anything serious about this is because the executive branch is run by obama and the senate is controlled by reid. He is essentially able to stop any bills that obama does not like and is able to ram through any nomination that Obama appoints.

Yes.

The people do have the power to put a stop to this nonsense in the next 30 days.

I think it will only slow down the nonsense as Obama will still be president and the legislature can only do so much when the president is not in agreement with them. Also it is unlikely that the GOP will be able to gain a supermajority in the senate nor a large enough majority to override a veto.

I think it is important to win the senate in order to prevent presidential nominees from being rammed through the confirmation process, however I think this will make few other changes

I think that IN GENERAL, you might be right, but we are talking about the issue with the IRS corruption.  Taking the Senate would send a very clear signal to the IRS as to the mood of the country, which would likely result in whistle blowers coming out of the closet.

One step at a time.

[Eisenhower34]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

This.

The reason no one is doing anything serious about this is because the executive branch is run by obama and the senate is controlled by reid. He is essentially able to stop any bills that obama does not like and is able to ram through any nomination that Obama appoints.

Yes.

The people do have the power to put a stop to this nonsense in the next 30 days.

I think it will only slow down the nonsense as Obama will still be president and the legislature can only do so much when the president is not in agreement with them. Also it is unlikely that the GOP will be able to gain a supermajority in the senate nor a large enough majority to override a veto.

I think it is important to win the senate in order to prevent presidential nominees from being rammed through the confirmation process, however I think this will make few other changes

I think that IN GENERAL, you might be right, but we are talking about the issue with the IRS corruption.  Taking the Senate would send a very clear signal to the IRS as to the mood of the country, which would likely result in whistle blowers coming out of the closet.

One step at a time.

Obama would still control the DOJ who would be prosecuting anyone at the IRS if the GOP were to retake the senate. The administration has already more or less said that no one is going to be prosecuted for what the IRS did (for as long as the Obama administration is in charge) so any real action will need to wait until at least 2017 or when a special prosecutor is appointed

[Wilikon]

Judge Dismisses Lawsuit Against IRS From Targeted Group True the Vote; Tea Party Outraged


A lawsuit brought against the government by True the Vote, an anti-voter fraud group made up of volunteers that was inappropriately targeted by the IRS and Department of Justice, has been thrown out by a federal judge despite acknowledgement of illegal wrongdoing in the case. More from Breitbart on the opinion:


Judge Walton's opinion stated that because the IRS had finally granted True the Vote their 501(c)(3) status, the case "no longer warrant[ed] the Court’s attention and further use of its resources," and deemed True the Vote's lawsuit to now be moot. However, True the Vote had argued specific costs that the IRS' delay had caused them, including fees for attorneys and CPAs, as well as fundraising losses. A number of other non-profit organizations and other donors had either pledged or donated money to True the Vote with the understanding that the group would have official 501(c)(3) status soon. Some of these groups even had requirements in their organizational documents that they could only give money to other approved 501(c)(3) organizations. According to Churchwell, the IRS' years-long delay acted as a "functional denial of our application" and True the Vote was forced to return some donations, and other pledges were revoked. Churchwell described the total costs to True the Vote caused by the IRS' delay to be nearly $90,000.


So because the IRS eventually granted proper 501(c)(3) status to True the Vote, there's no need to hold IRS officials accountable for inappropriately targeting the group and weaponizing government to do so? No justice or reconciliation for the damage done during the delay of the application? What an absolute shame and horrible precedent to set. Not to mention, IRS abuse will continue if there are no consequences for the illegal behavior and decisions that were made.

"This is far from over. This is what the beginning of tyranny looks like and we cannot sit by as Americans and watch it happen," True the Vote President Catherine Engelbrecht said during an interview with Fox News Friday afternoon.

Other tea party groups targeting by the IRS are outraged and have issued a series of statements in response to the dismissal.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/10/24/judge-tosses-lawsuit-against-the-irs-from-targeted-group-n1909561?utm_source=BreakingOnTownhallWidget_4&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=BreakingOnTownhall


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This is what tyranny looks like.

[omgbossis21]

That my friend, is American justice.  Crooked of course!

[Westin Landon Cox]

This is what tyranny looks like.

Yes, it is. I seriously doubt this tyranny can be fought with 501(c)(3) organizations reporting dutifully to the IRS. They've made it clear which side they're on and it's clear there will be no consequences. There should be some liberty oriented organizations that are funded through bitcoin and in which the real identities of the members are never known. That's the way to fight this.

[Wilikon]

IRS Admits to Court it Hasn’t Searched for Missing Lerner Emails



Judicial Watch announced today that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted to the court that it failed to search any of the IRS standard computer systems for the “missing” emails of Lois Lerner and other IRS officials. The admission appears in an IRS legal brief opposing the Judicial Watch request that a federal court judge allow discovery into how “lost and/or destroyed” IRS records relating to the targeting of conservative groups may be retrieved. The IRS is fighting Judicial Watch’s efforts to force testimony and document production about the IRS’ loss of records in Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation about the IRS targeting of Tea Party and other opponents of President Obama(Judicial Watch v. IRS (No. 1:13-cv-1559)).  The lawsuit is before U.S. District Court Judge Emmett G. Sullivan. [...]

Judicial Watch lawyers reviewed the IRS court filings and concluded that the agency “did not undertake any significant efforts to obtain the emails.”

IRS attorneys conceded that they had failed to search the agency’s servers for missing emails because they decided that “the servers would not result in the recovery of any information.” They admitted they had failed to search the agency’s disaster recovery tapes because they had “no reason to believe that the tapes are a potential source of recovering” the missing emails.  And they conceded that they had not searched the government-wide back-up system because they had “no reason to believe such a system … even exists.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/irs-admits-court-hasnt-searched-missing-lerner-emails/

[omgbossis21]

Good ol US OF A.  Corrupt from top to bottom.

[Spendulus]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

This.

The reason no one is doing anything serious about this is because the executive branch is run by obama and the senate is controlled by reid. He is essentially able to stop any bills that obama does not like and is able to ram through any nomination that Obama appoints.

Well, that's over.

Now we see what happens.

[Wilikon]

That's their way of letting us know no one can do anything about it sadly.

We'll see where this heads if, as pollsters say, the Republicans take the Senate next month.  As for what anyone can do about it, it's very simple.

Do something to help them take the Senate.

This.

The reason no one is doing anything serious about this is because the executive branch is run by obama and the senate is controlled by reid. He is essentially able to stop any bills that obama does not like and is able to ram through any nomination that Obama appoints.

Well, that's over.

Now we see what happens.

They made sure they stuffed the system with their judges before being kicked out. It will not be easy but will be much better now anyway.

[Gumbork]

IRS Admits to Court it Hasn’t Searched for Missing Lerner Emails



Judicial Watch announced today that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted to the court that it failed to search any of the IRS standard computer systems for the “missing” emails of Lois Lerner and other IRS officials. The admission appears in an IRS legal brief opposing the Judicial Watch request that a federal court judge allow discovery into how “lost and/or destroyed” IRS records relating to the targeting of conservative groups may be retrieved. The IRS is fighting Judicial Watch’s efforts to force testimony and document production about the IRS’ loss of records in Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation about the IRS targeting of Tea Party and other opponents of President Obama(Judicial Watch v. IRS (No. 1:13-cv-1559)).  The lawsuit is before U.S. District Court Judge Emmett G. Sullivan. [...]

Judicial Watch lawyers reviewed the IRS court filings and concluded that the agency “did not undertake any significant efforts to obtain the emails.”

IRS attorneys conceded that they had failed to search the agency’s servers for missing emails because they decided that “the servers would not result in the recovery of any information.” They admitted they had failed to search the agency’s disaster recovery tapes because they had “no reason to believe that the tapes are a potential source of recovering” the missing emails.  And they conceded that they had not searched the government-wide back-up system because they had “no reason to believe such a system … even exists.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/irs-admits-court-hasnt-searched-missing-lerner-emails/

There is not going to be any kind of accountability as long as the Obama administration is in charge. It will essentially prevent any kind of charges from being filed as it was likely behind the wrongdoing

[Spendulus]

IRS Admits to Court it Hasn’t Searched for Missing Lerner Emails



Judicial Watch announced today that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted to the court that it failed to search any of the IRS standard computer systems for the “missing” emails of Lois Lerner and other IRS officials. The admission appears in an IRS legal brief opposing the Judicial Watch request that a federal court judge allow discovery into how “lost and/or destroyed” IRS records relating to the targeting of conservative groups may be retrieved. The IRS is fighting Judicial Watch’s efforts to force testimony and document production about the IRS’ loss of records in Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation about the IRS targeting of Tea Party and other opponents of President Obama(Judicial Watch v. IRS (No. 1:13-cv-1559)).  The lawsuit is before U.S. District Court Judge Emmett G. Sullivan. [...]

Judicial Watch lawyers reviewed the IRS court filings and concluded that the agency “did not undertake any significant efforts to obtain the emails.”

IRS attorneys conceded that they had failed to search the agency’s servers for missing emails because they decided that “the servers would not result in the recovery of any information.” They admitted they had failed to search the agency’s disaster recovery tapes because they had “no reason to believe that the tapes are a potential source of recovering” the missing emails.  And they conceded that they had not searched the government-wide back-up system because they had “no reason to believe such a system … even exists.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/irs-admits-court-hasnt-searched-missing-lerner-emails/

There is not going to be any kind of accountability as long as the Obama administration is in charge. It will essentially prevent any kind of charges from being filed as it was likely behind the wrongdoing

Key officials of the IRS who were involved in this wrongdoing, or who have been implicit in it by continuing the obfuscation and coverup, can be impeached by 60 votes in the Senate.

It's not implausible to suggest that some Democrats would side with this.  An attempt to impeach Obama would result in a party line split, but would this matter do so?

If yes, then the Democrats would en mass line up and protect the IRS's right to political intimidation?

I don't think so.