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June 15, 2014, 07:24:02 PM
Last edit: June 16, 2014, 01:22:13 AM by ShakyhandsBTCer
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I think someone may be withholding blocks on BTC Guild.

Someone (BTC talk user Brucexie claimed to be shorted 200+ BTC from eligius and it appears they were selfish mining see the below thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650831.0

They claim that 17JkL94B2ngJg4QQZuiozDQjnxXB6B7yTc and 1Gu8zxRi8cyENV8CQe52D7QEsiZ7ruT73u belong to the selfish miners.

Looking at these addresses on blockchain.info, it looks like that both addresses are receiving payouts from BTC Guild.

Checking the PPLNS stats page on BTC Guild I see that they had had very bad luck 67% over 3 days and 83% over one week.

Based on this I would think that it is likely that "Brucexie" or the person/people who control the above addresses are selfish mining at BTC Guild.

It looks like they have set the automatic payout to receive payouts in 10 BTC intervals

If someone who has access to the "back office" stats at BTC Guild could please look into any users who have the payout address set to the above addresses and/or any accounts/ipaddresses that are showing very bad luck?

I would recommend disabling payout instead of disconnecting them, as they would be less likely to notice this right away and would slow down their effort to selfish mine on large pools.

EDIT: changed selfish mining --> block withholding to use proper terminology
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June 15, 2014, 10:33:26 PM
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Have you tried PMing Eleuthria about it?  He's been looking for users who have a significant disproportionate lucky by you have the addresses so it would be faster.  To be getting 10BTC payments at regular intervals requires a good bit of power.
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June 15, 2014, 10:44:02 PM
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OP, I think you mean a block withholding attack rather than selfish mining.

Selfish mining is explained here:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1311.0243

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June 16, 2014, 01:18:12 AM
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OP, I think you mean a block withholding attack rather than selfish mining.

Selfish mining is explained here:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1311.0243

I think you are right. My bad.

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June 16, 2014, 02:54:20 AM
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Now people are really boring, that guy never posted his own signature to prove that the two addresses.
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June 16, 2014, 03:34:48 AM
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Now people are really boring, that guy never posted his own signature to prove that the two addresses.

He said that he did not want to prove anything until he absolutely had to
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