Butterfly Labs starts censoring its forum, don't order anything from them!!!

[QcMrHyde]

I just want to explain my situation and the one of many MANY other customers of BFL at the moment. Just to put you guys in context, BFL is developping it's monarch miner which is a 24nm ASIC that was supposed to start shipping on April 2014 (that's the first estimation/lie they told).

Then came 2 other delays that wasn't expected by anyone so now everybody are asking for refunds. What's BFL answer to that? They start deleting all "negative" post concerning anything about refunds, compensations or any other question people have on when will they actually ship their miner for real.

They really REALLY are a shady company that doesn't respect their customers at all so I greatly advise you to never ever EVER buy ANYTHING from those guys. There are actually many complaint that the don't respect the legal rules of refunding their customers, it's all on many posts on their forum where many customers are in a bit of panic mode. I'm one of those since KnC released that article today https://forums.butterflylabs.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kncminer.com%2Fnews%2Fnews-94.

Which means BFL is nothing a game player anymore and the way the disrespect their customers, they will go bankrupt for sure, so again DON'T BUY anything form them. Just go with the sure shot and real leader in the industry KnC miners.

If you're waiting for your monarch or refund too please comment, people need to know how weird BFL's behavior is at the moment. They really look like they are gonna scam us all with all the BS that comes out of their mouths.

[Unacceptable]

Uh,KnC is NOT much better,maybe read their thread here on the forum before you start championing for them 

DO NOT BUY PREORDERS,PEROID.There's plenty of miners you can buy right now & they SHIP right now................

[QcMrHyde]

Wow I just realize BFL deleted all my post on their forum and my account and believe me I'm not a troll. I honestly only want information and transparency from them, apparently it will get you banned (even if they hold thousands of dollars of your money)! It's completly incredible to see how much they don't respect Freedom of speech and I can't remember a time in history where good things happens when some people are blocking Freedom of speech. They really are despicable people!  

[Xian01]

"Starts censoring" ? They've been censoring their forums for at least the last 2 years.

Also, it's 28nm, not 24nm.

[QcMrHyde]

DO NOT BUY PREORDERS,PEROID.There's plenty of miners you can buy right now & they SHIP right now................

Well that's mainly what I'm saying, I'm just mentioning KnC because they have the best miners availiable right now.

[Unacceptable]

No they don't..........they are NOT SHIPPING anything.................yet.Get it ? They are a PREORDER 

Read from several pages back & you'll see the truth:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.35340

Plus,they are mining like crazy(against their customers) & expanding as we speak..............

Spoondolies,Bitmain,Dragonminers & a few others ARE shipping ASAP & are better than KnC  

[QcMrHyde]

"Starts censoring" ? They've been censoring their forums for at least the last 2 years.

Also, it's 28nm, not 24nm.

I didn't know that, of course, since I would've never made business with them and you're right 28nm, my mistake, I didn't want to make them look like they are not 6 month (or even more) behind competition lol.

No they don't..........they are NOT SHIPPING anything.................yet.

Read from several pages back & you'll see the truth:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.35340

Ok then I won't mention KnC's name, but again my goal here is not to promote KnC it's to expose BFL. If I had to bet my life on "Who's gonna ship first KnC 20nm's Vs BFL 28nm's?" I'd take KnC without even thinking about it, maybe that would be a mistake but I doubt they lied 4-5 times to their customers. If I'm not mistaken when BFL starting BSing shipping dates it was around december 2013, I preordered on january 1st, they told me shipping near april, then 5 weeks delay, then another unspecified delay, now we are in june and I don't expect anything before august (if I can't be refunded of course). If that's not total lies and trying to steal people I don't know what is.

[xstr8guy]

Apparently you're the last person in the world to discover this. Everything you've said has been known for over a year, lol.

I guess because I read this forum every day, I'm shocked by what people don't know.

[Unacceptable]

Trust me,I hate BFL with a passion,I was in on FPGA fiasco & like a dumbass I believed them with the 65nm when they said "We learned from our mistakes & will do better!"  

BTW,I was a day one 65nm orderer (June 2012) & waited over a year

[QcMrHyde]

Trust me,I hate BFL with a passion,I was in on FPGA fiasco & like a dumbass I believed them with the 65nm when they said "We learned from our mistakes & will do better!"  

BTW,I was a day one 65nm orderer (June 2012) & waited over a year

Glad to see I'm not the only dumbass that trusted them, because well said if you think about trust BFL, you're a dumbass ...and unfortunatly I'm guilty as charged.

[QcMrHyde]

Wow I just received a beautiful explanation by BFL on why I got banned from their forum...

http://s13.postimg.org/u79exxa9z/ban.png

LOL... Now tell me they don't just give a fuck about their customers!

[GenTarkin]

"don't order anything from them!!!"

That should have been a lesson learned for anyone thats preordered from them before...

[daddyfatsax]

Wow I just received a beautiful explanation by BFL on why I got banned from their forum...



LOL... Now tell me they don't just give a fuck about their customers!

I cannot count how many times I was banned from the BFL Forums. Consider it a badge of honor.

[opieum2]

LMAO How is this news? They are going to be in jail soon enough for fleecing the people who gave them money. I am awaiting a refund from them....I wonder if thats even happening. Lotta people got fooled by them. All hype no substance.

[QcMrHyde]

Wow I just received a beautiful explanation by BFL on why I got banned from their forum...

http://s13.postimg.org/u79exxa9z/ban.png

LOL... Now tell me they don't just give a fuck about their customers!

I cannot count how many times I was banned from the BFL Forums. Consider it a badge of honor.

If I would have been insulting or trolling I would've accepted that like anyone with a brain but I honestly was only asking for more transparency from their part. For those guys Snowden is probably without a doubt a traitor and all that, what kind of asshole ask for transparency and treating people like humans?!? ...banned for life lol.

[daddyfatsax]

Here was my reddit post about getting banned during the whole charge-back shipping bullshit last year.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mh8yw/i_am_banned_for_life_from_the_bfl_forum_for/

[Swordsoffreedom]

Wow I just received a beautiful explanation by BFL on why I got banned from their forum...



LOL... Now tell me they don't just give a fuck about their customers!

I cannot count how many times I was banned from the BFL Forums. Consider it a badge of honor.

That is an impressive way to say
We hear what your saying but were not going to say why your not allowed to hang out here.
Congrats on getting that badge though BFL badge of honor indeed.

[lajz99]

THIS is the reason you post about to not order from them?   

[Niggle]

Spoondolies,Bitmain,Dragonminers & a few others ARE shipping ASAP & are better than KnC  

Spondoolies currently is not. I emailed them a few days ago and they are only a preorder at present. However, they're quite trustworthy and will be shipping SP30's soon.

[Unacceptable]

Spoondolies,Bitmain,Dragonminers & a few others ARE shipping ASAP & are better than KnC  

Spondoolies currently is not. I emailed them a few days ago and they are only a preorder at present. However, they're quite trustworthy and will be shipping SP30's soon.

Ah,I thought they still had some SP 10's to ship..........    So they are another preorder only 

They MAY be trustworthy NOW,BUT,by the time August rolls around & the network is at 150+ Petahash,you'll wish you had bought BTC 

Mining at home will be over before the end of summer,UNLESS BTC hits $1000-1500