Sexism double standards experiment.

[Rigon]

So I happened to read about this experiment today and just wanted to share it with you all:

"A hard-hitting experiment has revealed how strangers react differently when seeing domestic abuse depending on the gender of the aggressor.
A video filmed with hidden cameras at a London park shows a male actor attacking his ‘girlfriend’ in front of onlookers who immediately rush to help, with one shouting: ‘Oi mate, what's wrong with you?’
The man is told ‘someone will call the police if you carry on doing that to someone’, before a passer-by says to the woman: ‘You don't have to put up with that honey, he's not worth it’.

The experiment is then conducted with the same actors - but this time, the woman is the aggressor, attacking him and saying: ‘Don't try to walk away - listen to me when I'm talking to you.’
However, instead of reacting with shock, nobody watching even attempts to help the man. They actually seem rather entertained by the incident, stopping to stare and laughing about it.

The videos were filmed with three hidden cameras on May 16 for the ManKind Initiative, a charity based in Taunton, Somerset, which aims to provide support for male victims of domestic abuse."

Article and video: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...riend.html

So what do you guys think?

Why do people not get angry when girlfriends physically or verbally abuse their boyfriends?

[ShibaWow]

I'v seen that before

Why do people not get angry when girlfriends physically or verbally abuse their boyfriends?

because other males try to help the girls in order to get some favor there
girls help other girls in order to establish dominance over men

females don't help males because they want dominance which they have when women attack men
men don't help men because they use the opportunity to make fun of the guy and they're probably afraid of stepping in against an agressive female as she may strike them (and embarrass them) and they can't strike back because she's a woman

so there's nothing in for it,for them

[bluefirecorp]

There are advantages and disadvantages to each sex

Women are usually a lot weaker so I think an experiment of this calibre is kinda ridicolous.

You're sexist and wrong.

The key is no one should hit other people. If you see someone hitting someone, you step in and stop it.

[Lethn]

Why do people not get angry when girlfriends physically or verbally abuse their boyfriends?

Well this is the daily mail but I'll humour you, because I always see very extreme forms of sexism towards men for sure, in fact I'd argue there's far more sexism towards men these days than women especially in the courts.

What it is, is it's a sexist upbringing almost brainwashing even and people don't realise that they've been brought up that way, most people are taught from an early age to treat women differently and that they are 'weaker' etc. as Bluefire brilliantly quoted a person who has clearly deleted their post now they've realised what they've said. But yes, if you start a fight with a woman and you're a man, you're going to get attacked, if a woman starts a fight with you, they're going to do nothing, this is what sexism actually is, it's a very passive form of favourtism, when something happens to one gender they'll look the other way but when it happens to another they go ballistic.

I'd never thought I'd praise the BBC but I remember seeing articles by them about male rape statistics and the way the police were handling things and apparently the situation has gotten better for men now but there's still a lot of ingrained scepticism of "Oh well women are weaker etc. so they shouldn't be able to do anything to you" total bullshit of course, especially if you know anything about hand to hand.

I can't explain to you the why of it, but I can definitely see that it's an upbringing thing, we have it particularly badly here in the UK, in fact I've noticed it tends to happen quite a lot in the very religious countries or areas, thankfully though, even women are starting to wake up to it, I know this from personal experience from talking to them ^_^

[beetcoin]

it's funny because men probably sexually harass women more, but we would probably welcome being sexually harassed.. while women want less of it 

[zolace]

Ha Ha... This is absolutely hilarious I must say... I guess people don't get angry when girls abuse boys because this happens rarely.. Usually it is boys who share the reputation of abusing gals so when it happens other way round, people think it must be the boy's fault..

[leex1528]

Because we never learn.

Not only does this apply to sex, but also race.

The simple answer is, Most people don't see it as abuse, or sexist if a woman is doing it to a man.  I am a man and was actual in a very abusive relationship, it took me even a long time to understand how mean the girl was.  I just didn't even think about it at the time, now she was never abusive in public and only was with words, I just thought...girls being crazy girls you know...

The double standard we have nowadays for race might even be more evident.  I don't understand how it is not okay to be racist toward anyone that isn't white, but it is okay to be racist toward white people?  I don't think that his what the whole equal rights for everyone was about, so we could pick someone else to be racist toward.  I am not saying everyone does it and I completely understand it happens still to non white people.  My big problem is the way corporations use racism, and yes probably about 80% of them do.  I actual received a job interview because of my last name(Sounds Chinese), once they saw me(A white male) they wanted absolutely nothing to do with me, which was quite unfortunate but its okay because they need to hire a different color skin tone so they are perceived as not racist. 

It is quite the shame we went this far the wrong way but it happens. 

I personally believe we shouldn't teach kids about the history of slaves/woman abuse in Elementary school.  They are not mature enough to handle it and it makes it very socially awkward for everyone involved.  If you want to teach about that, wait until kids are a little more mature such as high school where they understand better.  I think teaching it at a young age promotes this other behavior of, its okay to be sexist/racist toward the people that had all the power previously. 

Anyway just my 2 cents

[noviapriani]

It is just a fundamental difference between the sexes. Basically, women develop less muscle and ....Well, this is how it has been going on since ages and root of this lies in the fundamental difference between the genders.. Women are the smaller side in terms of physique and stature and thus gain sympathy from people as a whole..

[sana8410]

It is just a fundamental difference between the sexes. Basically, women develop less muscle and ....Well, this is how it has been going on since ages and root of this lies in the fundamental difference between the genders.. Women are the smaller side in terms of physique and stature and thus gain sympathy from people as a whole..

Yes, there is a fundamental difference between the sexes in terms of physical structure. Women have been abused and oppressed for thousands of years so obviously it is strange to see a man be abused by a woman.
Do you know what one of factors that have led men to become rapists?? Them being abused and not reporting the abuse, feeling shame over and and holding everything is. Not that I am condoning rape but it does give you a glimpse into a rapist's state of mind.

[Sethtabiah]

[Rigon]

It is just a fundamental difference between the sexes. Basically, women develop less muscle and ....Well, this is how it has been going on since ages and root of this lies in the fundamental difference between the genders.. Women are the smaller side in terms of physique and stature and thus gain sympathy from people as a whole..

Yes, you have the right idea. I think the main justification for our double standards is that women are generally physically weaker than men. So people's perception is that is a man starts to abuse a woman, the woman cannot fight back because the man is stronger than she is. However, if a woman starts to abuse a man, the man can easily fight back and protect himself.
So society's perception is that when a woman hits a man and the man takes the beating, it is more like he is ALLOWING the woman to hit him and can use his strength to stop the woman anytime but when a man is hitting a woman, the woman have no choice and cannot fight back because she is weaker and this puts her in a much more dangerous position.

[Sethtabiah]

[sana8410]

I am of the opinion that old fashioned gender stereotypes are being increasingly shattered in today's society which are more open to individual self expression and acceptance of people's choices and orientation in life.

So males and females nowadays no longer feel society's pressure or judgement for them to conform into traditional gender stereotypes lest they be judged and criticized by their family and friends. This has led to a new generation of young people who define the new 'status quo'

So now males no longer feel the need to become the authoritarian dominant alpha male types if they don't feel like it and females no longer want to conform to society's expectation for them to play the submissive role if it's not who they really are. This has resulted in a massive upheaval and reversal of gender roles where nowadays you see working moms and stay at home dads.

However, with the good, also comes the bad. :/ and the female abuse of their significant other is also one of the bad that comes along with such change.
 

[umair127]

I think is truly a sad state because the abuse of men is one of the most under reported types of abuse. That coupled with the rape of men. When a man walks into a police station to report abuse, he is often met with laughter and insults about not being able to take it like a real man.

[umair127]

I am of the opinion that old fashioned gender stereotypes are being increasingly shattered in today's society which are more open to individual self expression and acceptance of people's choices and orientation in life.

So males and females nowadays no longer feel society's pressure or judgement for them to conform into traditional gender stereotypes lest they be judged and criticized by their family and friends. This has led to a new generation of young people who define the new 'status quo'

So now males no longer feel the need to become the authoritarian dominant alpha male types if they don't feel like it and females no longer want to conform to society's expectation for them to play the submissive role if it's not who they really are. This has resulted in a massive upheaval and reversal of gender roles where nowadays you see working moms and stay at home dads.

However, with the good, also comes the bad. :/ and the female abuse of their significant other is also one of the bad that comes along with such change.
 

I don't think there is EVER a justification to become a rapist. Plus, I don't think oppression of men by women is a prominent reason for men to rape. It is more like men who rape are more predisposed to abuse women and their motivations are mainly motivated by lust.
However, what you said about the double standards in society where the abuse of men by their significant others are being taken too lightly is true. It is time that society realizes that gender equality means TRUE equality.

[Rigon]

I think in today's male-dominated society where most men still get the higher level jobs, higher pay compared to women and are the ones who commit crimes the most and the media which confirms the male dominant stereotypes, and all this together with the news of the oppression and atrocities committed against women in countries such as Iran, Pakistan and Syria, the notion of 'women abusing men' is often thought as laughable and not to be taken seriously.

[zolace]

I think in today's male-dominated society where most men still get the higher level jobs, higher pay compared to women and are the ones who commit crimes the most and the media which confirms the male dominant stereotypes, and all this together with the news of the oppression and atrocities committed against women in countries such as Iran, Pakistan and Syria, the notion of 'women abusing men' is often thought as laughable and not to be taken seriously.

Hmmmm interesting! But I think in more developed societies today, women can easily get away with abusing their significant others because no one will take them seriously and the men will also be too ashamed to share the details of being abused by 'the weaker sex' (as the society likes to call women) to their friends and families unlike women who have a lot of outlets to complain to... and there are lots of people willing to help female abuse victims instead of male ones.

Nowadays we also see in court that the jury tend to sympathize more with women and grant them custody in custody battles because men are more frequently seen as 'the bad guy'.

[ShibaWow]

Ha Ha... This is absolutely hilarious I must say... I guess people don't get angry when girls abuse boys because this happens rarely.. Usually it is boys who share the reputation of abusing gals so when it happens other way round, people think it must be the boy's fault..

what?

no, as I see it it's usually the women who harass men

so far in my whole life (I'm 17 ) I have never seen a man hit a woman but I have seen women hit men min. 7-8 times..

I think in today's male-dominated society where most men still get the higher level jobs, higher pay compared to women and are the ones who commit crimes the most and the media which confirms the male dominant stereotypes, and all this together with the news of the oppression and atrocities committed against women in countries such as Iran, Pakistan and Syria, the notion of 'women abusing men' is often thought as laughable and not to be taken seriously.

yeah, why should a man who carries 50kg of weight get paid more then a women who carries 10kg

btw it's a lot worse for the male to feel abuse

when a female is abused she can go to the police, tell her friends (which will support her) while when a male gets abused he can't go to the police or tell his friends, or tell anyone
he can't even fight back

it's that what's wrong with society today
if only striking back would be accepted I think 0 females would have the courage to hit men..

[leex1528]

I don't think it has to do with anything about weight/size.  It just isn't normal so we react that way.  It is the exact opposite of what we want to happen(No abuse, no racism)

The fact is reverse racism/sexism are a real thing and we need to treat them more seriously.

[ShibaWow]

I don't think it has to do with anything about weight/size.  It just isn't normal so we react that way.  It is the exact opposite of what we want to happen(No abuse, no racism)

The fact is reverse racism/sexism are a real thing and we need to treat them more seriously.

what if men are more productive as they don't have to focus on their looks so much?