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June 18, 2014, 09:43:26 PM
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So overall, pretty bearish news.. considering the lack of interested parties and lack of variety in them (most of them already BTC related)
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June 18, 2014, 09:58:11 PM
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So overall, pretty bearish news.. considering the lack of interested parties and lack of variety in them (most of them already BTC related)

I only went off the ones in this article apparently there are 37 more interested parties
Think it was 51 total so if you think about the deposit needed being 200,000 for this auction

There is a current escrow of 10 million two hundred thousand dollars right now and that is before the bidding even begins  Cool

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June 18, 2014, 10:08:33 PM
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So overall, pretty bearish news.. considering the lack of interested parties and lack of variety in them (most of them already BTC related)

I only went off the ones in this article apparently there are 37 more interested parties
Think it was 51 total so if you think about the deposit needed being 200,000 for this auction

There is a current escrow of 10 million two hundred thousand dollars right now and that is before the bidding even begins  Cool

And it's not really escrow as the selling party is holding it. This is when the FBI runs off with $10.2M Tongue
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June 18, 2014, 10:19:39 PM
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So overall, pretty bearish news.. considering the lack of interested parties and lack of variety in them (most of them already BTC related)
There are some new multibillion dollar players in there, too. Good news IMHO.

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June 18, 2014, 10:21:15 PM
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So overall, pretty bearish news.. considering the lack of interested parties and lack of variety in them (most of them already BTC related)

I only went off the ones in this article apparently there are 37 more interested parties
Think it was 51 total so if you think about the deposit needed being 200,000 for this auction

There is a current escrow of 10 million two hundred thousand dollars right now and that is before the bidding even begins  Cool

And it's not really escrow as the selling party is holding it. This is when the FBI runs off with $10.2M Tongue

Considering they are selling blocks of 300 BTC at this price they would be better off selling the coins than running away with the chump change.
Now if they said the escrow was a non-refundable deposit to enter this auction that would have been a good steal ^_^.

So overall, pretty bearish news.. considering the lack of interested parties and lack of variety in them (most of them already BTC related)
There are some new multibillion dollar players in there, too. Good news IMHO.

Similar sentiment these coins will not be underbid with that many interested parties with the exception of collusion amongst them lol.

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June 18, 2014, 10:22:20 PM
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Wait, so all of these bidders (51?) have made the 200k deposit? Then I suppose its not so bad. I was thinking only a half or so actually bid and the rest were "interested"
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June 18, 2014, 10:43:49 PM
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Bankers and lawyers on the list. UGH!  Angry
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June 18, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
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Wait, so all of these bidders (51?) have made the 200k deposit? Then I suppose its not so bad. I was thinking only a half or so actually bid and the rest were "interested"

Nope. It's purely a CC to people who emailed enquiries about the auction, nothing more. A fella on Reddit who asked them a question received the same email.
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June 18, 2014, 11:28:37 PM
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In reply to YogoH, I'm not an expert in the law. I suppose it's down to local jurisdiction of who seizes the assets. I was just wondering if this sale was ethical. If the marshals had said they were gonna donate the proceeds to addiction/homeless charity I could see that as a more positive end than profiteering from crimes that were committed on a global scale.



where do you get the idea that the government needs to abide by ethics...
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June 18, 2014, 11:34:27 PM
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In reply to YogoH, I'm not an expert in the law. I suppose it's down to local jurisdiction of who seizes the assets. I was just wondering if this sale was ethical. If the marshals had said they were gonna donate the proceeds to addiction/homeless charity I could see that as a more positive end than profiteering from crimes that were committed on a global scale.



where do you get the idea that the government needs to abide by ethics...

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
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June 18, 2014, 11:52:37 PM
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So overall, pretty bearish news.. considering the lack of interested parties and lack of variety in them (most of them already BTC related)

Lol. Seriously? Ok.
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June 19, 2014, 02:30:01 AM
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The name that caught my eye was Fred Ehrsam's.

As the ultimate insider who can see the market with as perfect vision as any, I consider his desire to buy large quantities of coins as extremely bullish.
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June 19, 2014, 03:27:36 AM
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The name that caught my eye was Fred Ehrsam's.

As the ultimate insider who can see the market with as perfect vision as any, I consider his desire to buy large quantities of coins as extremely bullish.

I think everybody needs to put this all in perspective...

Go back 12 months and this list would be a rag tag bunch of crypto trolls & holders thats about it

That list looks pretty mainstreet investment city to me  Tongue

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June 19, 2014, 04:08:39 AM
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The name that caught my eye was Fred Ehrsam's.

As the ultimate insider who can see the market with as perfect vision as any, I consider his desire to buy large quantities of coins as extremely bullish.

I think everybody needs to put this all in perspective...

Go back 12 months and this list would be a rag tag bunch of crypto trolls & holders thats about it

That list looks pretty mainstreet investment city to me  Tongue

Yes. If you ask me this "leak" just seems too easy to be a simple accident. By dropping all those names the USMS want to maximize the price they get for those bitcoins and the make others know there will be serious money coming to the table

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June 19, 2014, 09:32:38 AM
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Apparently it's 37 people and they are not all bidders. Anyone that has asked a question appears on the list.
So this means all of them could simply be asking if they could send a really low ball offer, just in case. "Hey I'll buy all of the coins for 10% of their value." "Is there a volume discount?" Why not?
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June 19, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
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Apparently it's 37 people and they are not all bidders. Anyone that has asked a question appears on the list.
So this means all of them could simply be asking if they could send a really low ball offer, just in case. "Hey I'll buy all of the coins for 10% of their value." "Is there a volume discount?" Why not?

or some of them could genuinely wish to acquire 30,000 coins and appreciate that buying them in the open market, on an exchange they are able to use (basically just Stamp) in a short timeframe, will cost them a lot more than paying say $650 a coin.
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June 19, 2014, 10:54:58 AM
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Apparently it's 37 people and they are not all bidders. Anyone that has asked a question appears on the list.
So this means all of them could simply be asking if they could send a really low ball offer, just in case. "Hey I'll buy all of the coins for 10% of their value." "Is there a volume discount?" Why not?

No. Because they replied with a PDF of FAQs and that was not one of the questions...
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June 19, 2014, 11:03:37 AM
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Apparently it's 37 people and they are not all bidders. Anyone that has asked a question appears on the list.
So this means all of them could simply be asking if they could send a really low ball offer, just in case. "Hey I'll buy all of the coins for 10% of their value." "Is there a volume discount?" Why not?

No. Because they replied with a PDF of FAQs and that was not one of the questions...

Could you link to that document?
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June 19, 2014, 11:33:19 AM
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Apparently it's 37 people and they are not all bidders. Anyone that has asked a question appears on the list.
So this means all of them could simply be asking if they could send a really low ball offer, just in case. "Hey I'll buy all of the coins for 10% of their value." "Is there a volume discount?" Why not?

No. Because they replied with a PDF of FAQs and that was not one of the questions...

Could you link to that document?

http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/faqs.pdf
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June 19, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
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Apparently it's 37 people and they are not all bidders. Anyone that has asked a question appears on the list.
So this means all of them could simply be asking if they could send a really low ball offer, just in case. "Hey I'll buy all of the coins for 10% of their value." "Is there a volume discount?" Why not?

No. Because they replied with a PDF of FAQs and that was not one of the questions...

Could you link to that document?

http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/faqs.pdf

Thank you.

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