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June 21, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
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In early USSR (1919) Lenin tried to suppress money  Grin Socialist never learn from the past  Grin

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June 21, 2014, 04:16:45 PM
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Why are people bashing the US in a thread about Bolivia.....and where are these individuals from that is such a great fucking flawless place?  I'll move there, I don't care, but prove it.  

The entire world is fucked right now, the US is just at the heart of it. Give it a few more years before the true magnitude of how deep in shit we really are becomes apparent to even the dumb politicians and mainstream media. There's no escaping this fucking mess, humanity either learns how to get their shit together or most of us will simply die.

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June 21, 2014, 04:21:30 PM
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Why are people bashing the US in a thread about Bolivia.....and where are these individuals from that is such a great fucking flawless place?  I'll move there, I don't care, but prove it.  

The entire world is fucked right now, the US is just at the heart of it. Give it a few more years before the true magnitude of how deep in shit we really are becomes apparent to even the dumb politicians and mainstream media. There's no escaping this fucking mess, humanity either learns how to get their shit together or most of us will simply die.

Can you elaborate. You mean inflation right? What other things. (I don't really look into this sort of thing) Thanks

edit to hologram below this comment:
thanks, I forgot to add that to my original statement.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
isnt it 17.5 tn?
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June 21, 2014, 04:23:34 PM
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Can you elaborate. You mean inflation right? What other things. (I don't really look into this sort of thing) Thanks

Or the 60t$ USA debt  Grin

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June 21, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
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He waits for another conspitard to come along and echos back his ramblings. The economy is always about to crash consistently since the 1950s or something.
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June 21, 2014, 04:45:32 PM
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Holy Phuck!

So that means that there is another culture out there that produces selfish, ego-centric, ignorant mofos like you?

I shall have to get my pen n notepad out for this one!

So hologram, do tell where you are from?

We are all over the world ! You are surround !  Grin

You are stupid as only a fucking communist can be, you can easily know my country if you reflect a little  Grin

"fucking" maybe,
But "stupid" is a questionable attribute for communists, considering the paranoid scare you (or your older ideological clones) once felt about them...
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June 21, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
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"fucking" maybe,
But "stupid" is a questionable attribute for communists, considering the paranoid scare you (or your older ideological clones) once felt about them...

I fear them cause they are the best at mass killing, that don't make them smart...
And US debt clock don't include government pension to worker.

"If you add up all the promises that have been made for spending obligations, including defense expenditures, and you subtract all the taxes that we expect to collect, the difference is $211 trillion. That's the fiscal gap," he says. "That's our true indebtedness."

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-23/17-trillion-us-national-debt-try-211-trillion

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June 21, 2014, 04:57:15 PM
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"fucking" maybe,
But "stupid" is a questionable attribute for communists, considering the paranoid scare you (or your older ideological clones) once felt about them...

I fear them cause they are the best at mass killing, that don't make them smart...
And US debt clock don't include government pension to worker.

"If you add up all the promises that have been made for spending obligations, including defense expenditures, and you subtract all the taxes that we expect to collect, the difference is $211 trillion. That's the fiscal gap," he says. "That's our true indebtedness."

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-23/17-trillion-us-national-debt-try-211-trillion

Oh, alright, did not calculate that in. (more than 17.5 tn) Thanks
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June 21, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
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Why are people bashing the US in a thread about Bolivia.....and where are these individuals from that is such a great fucking flawless place?  I'll move there, I don't care, but prove it.  

I was bashing another poster's homogeneous and parochial minded 'right wing' ego-centric ideology. 99% of the time, such an ideology is reserved for a section of the American population who suffer from both cultural ignorance and cultural arrogance which results in them having a very blinkered view of geo-politics and life in general. As it turns out though, this poster is not American, but French. That surprises me. I have met many Americans who are fully compos mentis and actually very intelligent individuals, yet seem really fucking stupid when they start talking about certain things. Of course, this stupidity is culturally enforced and no doubt if I were born and raised in America, i would be affected by it also. However, hologram is French, which means that he has no excuse. He can't blame his cultural environment for his ignorant, ego-centric, and actually rather vile ideology. He must have sought it out all by himself.

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June 21, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
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Zerohedge is openly catastrophist, but sometime they have good analysis.

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However, hologram is French, which means that he has no excuse. He can't blame his cultural environment for his ignorant and actually rather vile ideology. He must have sought it out all by himself.

 Cheesy What do you know about my country ? You think it's the fucking socialist paradise MSNBC tell you ? You know somebody who wanted to stay in my country ? Because i know many people who has go out  Grin

Ho, and 20% of French and 43% of young French want to quit France, that's an incredible success  Grin
http://www.ipsos.fr/ipsos-public-affairs/actualites/2014-04-04-expatriation-benefices-qu-en-tirent-francais

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June 21, 2014, 05:17:05 PM
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"fucking" maybe,
But "stupid" is a questionable attribute for communists, considering the paranoid scare you (or your older ideological clones) once felt about them...

I fear them cause they are the best at mass killing, that don't make them smart...


best at mass killing !?!
Which ELO ranking of mass killers do you use to assert that?

the one which discard niggers as points or the one which discard communists? ( I presume you don't use the one which discard class ennemies)
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June 21, 2014, 05:20:24 PM
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best at mass killing !?!
Which ELO ranking of mass killers do you use to assert that?
the one which discard niggers as points or the one which discard communists? ( I presume you don't use the one which discard class ennemies)

Are you serious ?  Grin
In where place of the world people still say communist do not killed dozen million of people ? Even in France just few people still think that.

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June 21, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
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best at mass killing !?!
Which ELO ranking of mass killers do you use to assert that?
the one which discard niggers as points or the one which discard communists? ( I presume you don't use the one which discard class ennemies)

Are you serious ?  Grin

No, I'm just trying to take your point of view.

That's not very serious, just a litlle bit sad, I must admit...
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June 21, 2014, 05:37:39 PM
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Why are people bashing the US in a thread about Bolivia.....and where are these individuals from that is such a great fucking flawless place?  I'll move there, I don't care, but prove it.  

The entire world is fucked right now, the US is just at the heart of it. Give it a few more years before the true magnitude of how deep in shit we really are becomes apparent to even the dumb politicians and mainstream media. There's no escaping this fucking mess, humanity either learns how to get their shit together or most of us will simply die.

Can you elaborate. You mean inflation right? What other things. (I don't really look into this sort of thing) Thanks

edit to hologram below this comment:
thanks, I forgot to add that to my original statement.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
isnt it 17.5 tn?

Debt is one thing but that's actually just a symptom of a much bigger problem. They're trying to inflate their problems away by printing money but that's not working either. Deflation is what's coming next, and that will cause total panic because that will lay bare the true burden of debt and its influence on the future. Governments and banks aren't afraid of deflation because people will start to delay their spending, but because it will make debt unbearable. So naturally printing presses will start going crazy and the fake economy we have built up will start falling apart sending billions of people into poverty and chaos. Unless we can somehow address the real problems and build a new economy based on real value and real wealth and not on (financing) debt, infinite growth and redundant consumerism.

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June 21, 2014, 05:41:36 PM
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You are right. But if the debt system collapse it will not be chaos, people will switch to a better money, like bitcoin, gold, silver... Like the Zimbebwe switched to USD after Mugabe's economics.

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June 21, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
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Why are people bashing the US in a thread about Bolivia.....and where are these individuals from that is such a great fucking flawless place?  I'll move there, I don't care, but prove it.  

The entire world is fucked right now, the US is just at the heart of it. Give it a few more years before the true magnitude of how deep in shit we really are becomes apparent to even the dumb politicians and mainstream media. There's no escaping this fucking mess, humanity either learns how to get their shit together or most of us will simply die.

Can you elaborate. You mean inflation right? What other things. (I don't really look into this sort of thing) Thanks

edit to hologram below this comment:
thanks, I forgot to add that to my original statement.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
isnt it 17.5 tn?

Debt is one thing but that's actually just a symptom of a much bigger problem. They're trying to inflate their problems away by printing money but that's not working either. Deflation is what's coming next, and that will cause total panic because that will lay bare the true burden of debt and its influence on the future. Governments and banks aren't afraid of deflation because people will start to delay their spending, but because it will make debt unbearable. So naturally printing presses will start going crazy and the fake economy we have built up will start falling apart sending billions of people into poverty and chaos. Unless we can somehow address the real problems and build a new economy based on real value and real wealth and not on (financing) debt, infinite growth and redundant consumerism.

Thanks for the explanation. I usually don't do my research on this sort of thing (I guess just seems depressing to me @I usually just research things I like like tech etc).

As you can imagine, all of this seems scary (debt etc) and it would be nice to see some kind of legit gold standard or some true value happen somewhere in the world.

I feel like this thread is being hijacked lol (Matt original made this for the bolivia news)
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June 21, 2014, 05:47:00 PM
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Thanks for the explanation. I usually don't do my research on this sort of thing (I guess just seems depressing to me @I usually just research things I like like tech etc).

As you can imagine, all of this seems scary (debt etc) and it would be nice to see some kind of legit gold standard or some true value restored somewhere in the world.

I feel like this thread is being hijacked lol (Matt original made this for the bolivia news)

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June 21, 2014, 06:23:39 PM
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You are right. But if the debt system collapse it will not be chaos, people will switch to a better money, like bitcoin, gold, silver... Like the Zimbebwe switched to USD after Mugabe's economics.

A switch to gold, silver and/or bitcoin won't be that smooth, imagine 6 billion people trying to rush into gold, silver and bitcoin at the same time. A switch to USD is much easier especially for a small country like Zimbabwe. Anyway we'll just have to live and see through it and hope for the best, humans are most resourceful when their back is against the wall so I'm still relatively optimistic even though it's gonna be scary. Back to Bolivia now and their 'ban' on bitcoin lol.

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June 21, 2014, 06:30:06 PM
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A switch to gold, silver and/or bitcoin won't be that smooth, imagine 6 billion people trying to rush into gold, silver and bitcoin at the same time. A switch to USD is much easier especially for a small country like Zimbabwe. Anyway we'll just have to live and see through it and hope for the best, humans are most resourceful when their back is against the wall so I'm still relatively optimistic even though it's gonna be scary. Back to Bolivia now and their 'ban' on bitcoin lol.

A switch is not smooth and a lot of people will lose money, but money is not capital, if dollar and euro are toilet paper tomorrow there still will be all the thing we have build in this world.

For Bolivia i think they go for an Argentinian like experiment and Venezuela follow them.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-thriving-argentinas-black-market-economy/

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June 21, 2014, 06:34:39 PM
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Bolivia Banned Bitcoin? They're killing me!

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