Problems with Matthew N. Wright

[Jon]

This reminds me of a guy who got a traffic ticket, went to court and just sat there and didn't comply with any of the proceedings. He didn't plead guilty or innocent. He didn't stand for the judge, nada.

All the court bureaucrats were agitated because they couldn't proceed with their paperwork and processes. Eventually the guy just went home, didn't pay the fine and nothing happened.

I can only expect the same result here until Goat gets desperate enough for his money. I have a feeling it's pocket change to him.

Anyways, this is retarded. Both parties are wasting their time unless Goat is just a master troll.  

In that case, Goat is doing some entertaining work.

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[bittenbob]

I'm wondering why you are even bothering to acknowledge him using such personalized responses, instead of just repeating canned "Please acknowledge your refund agreement, and your money will be refunded immediately" messages. I don't think you guys can really say or explain any more than you already have, and at this point it's all just a protracted bitchfest.

Quite frankly it's because we would like to close this matter with him once and for all. I thought things couldn't be stated any clearer also but they have had to be stated time and time again. He has come about 95% of the way on this finally but in order to finish the deal he must specify what he paid for each item as has been stated several times before. The last thing we would want is to provide him a refund and then him claim that he wasn't refunded the full amount. This needs to be final and we want to make it as such.

It has become a protracted bitchfest as you stated and it has been very draining on members of the magazine. This is why we are choosing to refrain from ever doing business with him again. We have been trying to refund him since February 14, 2012.

[Jon]

The solution is simple: Just ignore the guy.

When he wants his refund, he'll get it. If he calls all of you guys scammers, he's lying. You can sue him for defamation.

...or you could just put the money in his address and walk away.

Anyways, I'm not your daddy. Do whatever makes you happy.

[bittenbob]

The solution is simple: Just ignore the guy.

When he wants his refund, he'll get it. If he calls all of you guys scammers, he's lying. You can sue him for defamation.

...or you could just put the money in his address and walk away.

Anyways, I'm not your daddy. Do whatever makes you happy.

The first solution COULD be attempted but we are honest and legitimate business people. We are making EVERY EFFORT to provide him his refund. As you said, if he called us scammers then he would clearly be lying. We are not out to take anyone's money without providing appropriate services.

Your second solution is also unworkable since he could claim that it wasn't a full refund and try to solicit us for additional work/refunds. I know this would not fly on these forums but these forums are not a legal court so it would be irrelevant. Emails can be considered a binding agreement and it is why we are using the procedure that we are.

What would make me (and the rest of the magazine) happy is to refund him his money and go on our merry way.

On a lighter note, I know you're not my daddy , I am probably old enough to be yours lol.

[Wordlet]

Provided I receive this refund  at 1Yj6hiWeLL8pxCtCVrtfpNFKhrJUwjT5d from an address that is veritably  Bittalk Media Ltd./ Bitcoin Magazine 's

wut?

How is BitTalk Media supposed to prove that a sending address is theirs? Is anyone else getting the "This issue will never die so long as Goat keeps talking" vibe?

You can sign a message to prove you own the address. This is a feature coming in .6.0.

Idk how it works, but basically you choose a public address, and you can add a bit of text like "This is a refund for x and x and x" click 'sign message' and you get a verification key that the other party can use to confirm that you signed the given text "this is a refund...", and you own that public key.

At least that's my understanding of what it does, could be mistaken.

[RoloTonyBrownTown]

Matthew calling me a "Douche" in a public thread was absolutely uncalled for.

Doesn't make it any less true though.   You've proved yourself a nasty troll in the BFL threads and now this.   Good luck with your business, I know I wouldn't go anywhere near you.   

Just be a normal human being for once and send the damn email.  Someone even typed it out for you already.  Grow up.

[Vicente]

I did get an e-mail from you and I have not posted it in this thread as I am trying to resolve this with you guys.

You got an email and you're talking about it in the thread instead of through the email. Wow. Just wow.

The reason for the delay is you did not respond clearly to my only question about Matthews involvement with the website and how this relates to your company.

I'm pretty sure it's been said like 10000 times. Why is it still 'unclear' that Matthew did the website work privately and the magazine advertising through the company? Everytime you come back with this crap it makes you look dumber and dumber.

I would like to know if he was acting as an agent while doing this or if it was on his own. It seems this is a key point in this mess.

Matthew is an agent for BitTalk Media and any advertising he sold you is liable to the company. Any magazine you bought is liable to the company. Any website design is liable to Matthew. You cancelled your contract with Matthew after agreeing you could not wait any longer and decided to go look for another designer. The only key point here is that we can expect more delays and FUD and the community needs to take this as a lesson when they ask the magazine in the future "why is it so hard to get advertising space now?".

I honestly thought this was just an absurd delay tactic but after I have sought legal advice I understand why your company would like to be protected from being sued. I am not going to go into details here but there are some issues about the website and Matthew's actions. I think it is best that we talk about this in private e-mail because it will cause more anarchy and it will not be productive if it is done here.

I smell blackmail.

I am not doing this to delay, Matthew had my bitcoin address before he took the issue to the forums.

Can you prove Matthew had your address? This is the 5th outright lie you've told so far. When did you tell Matthew your Bitcoin address? Was it ever emailed? Provided over PM even? Or did you just post it to him on Skype after he blocked you? You know that on Skype, it doesn't show anything after you block someone but the person who sent the message shows the message as having been sent?

Or is this one of those vague "My address is known" things that hardcore Bitcoiners know is bullshit (you don't send refunds to a public address without contacting and approving that address to the owner as they may not have access to it anymore etc).

You still have my BTC address. The delay is because you are asking me to give up legal rights. This will take some time and I am not going to rush it. I am seeking advice right now.

Interesting how easy it is to read you. From the start I've thought you as being horribly greedy, always quick to bet on things and troll about money, always talking about money, and now that you have realized that you have a position to cause more annoyance you suddenly are no longer in a hurry? I don't mind calling you a liar publicly (because you lied several times and I've already proved it) but now I am going to call you a douche in public too. You're a douch Goat. A liar and a douche. I personally would never do business with you. By the way, why is your website tygrr.com, the same name as TyGrr, who is also in Thailand, the forum member who had sent child porn? I think I'm going to start a new thread about that because you seem to like making personal business public. That $50k investment you mentioned in your Skype logs is going to be tricky to keep when you have a similar public image as Bruce Wagner.

My second e-mail to you was not drafted by me and the third I will not draft either. I have never had an issue with this company. I was reluctant to even deal with you (because I did not see the point) but I was advised to do so. I was also advised to agree that I will not sue you for anything related to the ad or the mag subscription. I never had any intention to do so. Again I have no ill will with the mag. I honestly hope this will be awesome for bitcoin you guys are a huge success. This whole mess has made me depressed as I was so happy when I thought I was going to get a really well done website and an ad in this first issue. I told my parents about it and they are also looking forward to it.

Rabble rabble. Your website is basically done, idiot. Matthew finished like 95% of it (Everyone go to Tygrr.com and see what is in fact missing), as the logs showed, you just continued to ignore his requests for actual -TEXT- to put on the website. Did you want him to run your company for you and be your marketing agent as well? Good Lord.

All your site needs right now to be considered a "site" is some information about your company, which you cannot sit down and write, and then take that out on Matthew? You're pathetic. He can't finish the site because you won't do your part. He can't work with you because you called him a scammer publicly long before this just because you weren't patient and didn't pay attention to what you yourself agreed to. He can't work with you NOW (I don't blame him) because he's no longer in charge of customer/advertising accounts. I hope you fly to the UK, sue the company, and learn a valuable lesson about humility. It'd be easy money for the company when they counter sue you.

I need some people to get back to me but I will respond in e-mail but it would speed things up if you would make the website issue clear. This was the whole issue to start with, this is the only real issue we ever had.

There is no issue. You told Matthew you agreed to find someone else. Case closed. Where should he send the money? He asked already and you never gave the info. You posted and address without an amount in a thread, and now 'refuse' to draft an email.

Goat, you're a total douche.

[RoloTonyBrownTown]

Posting that on page one would have helped and avoided all this pointless nonsense.   Christ.

[Maged]

Thank you for finally acting in good faith, Mr. whatever your name is now. I await a reply from BitTalk Media to acknowledge that the requested agreement was, indeed, sent.

[Bigpiggy01]

Good to hear that this should finally be getting sorted 

[Vicente]

Going from working with Matthew W on a personal level to working with this legal-nazi "corporation" scared that I'm going to sue them over Matthew's actions was a real mind fuck.

I'm pretty sure Matthew felt the same way when he thought he was working for a sane businessman and turned out to be making a deal with an impatient, fussy prick.

Goat, companies have policies. You not knowing this should only serve as a reminder to people wanting to do business with you.

[Vicente]

Keep in mind I thought I was dealing with Matthew on a personal level not this "corporation" (about the website design). Had I understood that I was really making a deal with this company it would have been done differently as I would have asked for a contract. At the time Matthews word was good enough for me.

Can't...tell...if...serious....


Can we have Goat banned for continuously lying?

You messaged Matthew after agreeing to buy advertising space in the magazine and asked him to personally assist you in developing a website. You are either handicapped and therefor forgivable (some people have memory problems or language comprehension issues like rainman did), or you're a blatant liar and one of the worst liars ever (constantly saying things that go absolutely against what logs of your own conversation states).

[Vicente]

That is your reply? Okay...

Yes. That is my reply.

Do you know why that is my reply? I will explain it to you like you are a handicapped child.

You told Matthew you wanted to buy advertising space.

You knew Matthew was working for the magazine.

You knew the magazine was a company.

Only a total idiot would not know. When you buy advertising space for a magazine, it is a professional service.

You asked Matthew if he knew anyone who could help with a website.

Matthew made the mistake of trusting you would be 'cool'. He told you he could help you.

He warned you he would take forever because he's busy.

He warned you he was overpriced because he's busy.

He instructed you to find someone-- ANYONE-- else to do it.

You insisted on him, personally.

He agreed and you agreed to a personal agreement for personal work on a website.

You bothered the fuck out of him daily even though you knew it would take him a long time.

You threatened him even though he was already doing the work.

He finished 95% of the website in his free time, making the magazine even later.

He asked you for information to put in the website, you threatened him more.

You never responded to his request for more information.

You posted on the forums that he stole money from you.

He decided right there and then that you are an impossible douchebag who should never be worked with.

He kept his word and kept the agreement just the same.

You eventually got tired of waiting (you broke the agreement) and told him you were going to have someone else do the website.

Your private agreement with him was cancelled right then and there.

You have made this about the magazine. You have dragged the magazine through the mud. You have made everyone have to deal with your ignorance and lies. You should be ashamed of yourself. You should be banned.

You have not kept your word at all and you have spread lies and FUD about Matthew non-stop out of your own misunderstandings.

You asked for a refund and have made it impossible for anyone to give you a refund.

You have judged everyone involved like some child.

You have no agreement with Matthew anymore for the website. You broke it and cancelled it by hiring someone else.

You are being refunded for the private agreement through the magazine only because the original funds were donated to the magazine.

You are bring refunded for the professional agreement about advertising and magazine subscription by your choice and your choice alone.

You are being asked to agree to contract only because you asked for a refund, not because the magazine is worried about being sued.

You would never win a case because you have no case. If anything, Matthew should be personally suing you and trying to get you banned and blackballed from the Bitcoin community for your gross display of unprofessionalism and idiocy.

You want to know the magazine's privacy policy and you claim you can't access it? Yes, you are stupid. The magazine's privacy policy is on the magazine's website genius, it always has been.

You are a liar and a moron. Please take a long walk off a short ledge.

[Vicente]

"We will not sell, distribute or lease your personal information to third parties unless we have your permission or are required by law to do so."

oops:(

Provide proof the magazine has ever released any information to the public. I am pretty sure you've been doing all of that entirely on your own.

If you're talking about redacted logs posted by Matthew, that was all related to a personal agreement related to a website you sad delusional little man.

Posting my logs was cool then?

You're the only one posting unredacted logs of anything. Everytime Adam talks to you, you run and post the email contents here. That's called "bad faith". You are digging a publicity hole for yourself and then trying to blame others. Freak.

BTW are you avoiding a ban by any chance?

I have only ever been banned once for spamming (which was a misunderstanding). If you were thinking I am Matthew (idiot), Matthew is not even banned anymore. Please stop lying and spreading FUD.

This will all end once I get the bitcoin that I have been assured by you and Adam I will get. Can you let us know why there is a delay?

I am not representing the magazine here, Adam is. He's the only one that can talk to you about this issue.

Let's recap the many faces and moods of Goat, the liar and douchebag.

"I don't want a refund"

"Why haven't you given me my refund! Scammers!!11"

"I am in no hurry."

"What is the hold-up???"

[SysRun]

I hate to say it, but I really feel like this is going to hurt and discredit bitcoin magazine as a journalistic entity. Its really unfortunate that this type of discussion became hostile.

Goat, if it was a tactic on your part to keep cool while the Vicente lost his head I say "well played, sir", but I don't that that is the case.

I really think Goat realizes, like many of us, bitcoin magazine is a good thing for everyone in the community and despite his attempts to resolve this in a diplomatic manner he has been met with hostility in virtually every reply.

Once this is resolved I propose that we consider deleting this thread. (with everyone's permission).

I don't have a dog in this race other than the desire to see bitcoin succeed. I hope you will both consider my proposal.

[Rassah]

Last point I remember this getting stuck on was the magazine asking "Please email us the amount that you believe you are due, and confirm that that's everything we owe you," to which Goat replied "No *FLAIL-WHINE-TROLL*"

[bittenbob]

Personal information would be your address, phone number, etc. None of this was released and even if so, you agreed to full and final settlement. Do you understand what that means? There will be no further communication from the magazine to you. This matter is closed as far as we are concerned.

[Maged]

BitTalk Media:

I'm concerned that the funds haven't been sent yet. I expect to be given a reason why within 48 hours. If I don't hear back from you in a day, I'll contact you over more official means.

[BadBear]

I hate to say it, but I really feel like this is going to hurt and discredit bitcoin magazine as a journalistic entity. Its really unfortunate that this type of discussion became hostile.

Really they should never have responded on the forums at all beyond a simple we have emailed you concerning this matter. Everybody in this thread looks bad at this point. Hopefully lessons were learned.

I did notice it hasn't been sent yet though. http://blockexplorer.com/address/1Yj6hiWeLL8pxCtCVrtfpNFKhrJUwjT5d

[Rassah]

Everybody in this thread looks bad at this point.

*goes back to delete all his posts to this thread*