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June 21, 2014, 01:05:37 PM
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Usually folks' idea of Noah's ark are based on children's Sunday school lessons, etc.  The following students were tasked with putting one aspect to the test based on the actual biblical account - and were surprised by the results.

http://www.icr.org/article/8039/

Advanced physics students at Leicester University were tasked with determining if the Biblical dimensions of Noah's ark—assuming it was properly constructed—could have supported the mass of 70,000 animals

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June 21, 2014, 01:12:33 PM
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Where do you think Noah got the Kangaroo's and the duckbilled platypuses from? Did he just jet over to Australia on a 777?
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June 21, 2014, 01:15:15 PM
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Usually folks' idea of Noah's ark are based on children's Sunday school lessons, etc.  The following students were tasked with putting one aspect to the test based on the actual biblical account - and were surprised by the results.

http://www.icr.org/article/8039/

Advanced physics students at Leicester University were tasked with determining if the Biblical dimensions of Noah's ark—assuming it was properly constructed—could have supported the mass of 70,000 animals

The number of known living bird species varies anywhere from 9,800 to 10.000.  If you take 7 of each kind you'd get 68.600 to 490.000 animals just for birds alone. That is more than this Arc could carry.

Was this paper published on April 1st by any chance?  Grin

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June 21, 2014, 01:16:26 PM
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Does it even matter? It's based on one of fictive stories from really old book Wink

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June 21, 2014, 01:22:11 PM
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Usually folks' idea of Noah's ark are based on children's Sunday school lessons, etc.  The following students were tasked with putting one aspect to the test based on the actual biblical account - and were surprised by the results.

http://www.icr.org/article/8039/

Advanced physics students at Leicester University were tasked with determining if the Biblical dimensions of Noah's ark—assuming it was properly constructed—could have supported the mass of 70,000 animals
They didn't investigate whether it was feasible to construct the ark or whether the ark could have held up to the open ocean.  All they assessed was whether the size was sufficient to hold the mass of animals (forget the food and water).  In other words, if I had a paper bowl that was 6 feet long, 3 feet wide and 3 feet high, I could put it in water and given its volume, it would hold you and your family (with no food and water) afloat on the ocean....right?

There are problems with this 'scientific assessment" .

1) how did the animals get to the ark
2) where do they keep the food and water (2nd ark?)
3) where is the steel because wood isn't strong enough to support the mass, length and size.  

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June 21, 2014, 02:16:53 PM
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I like how the ark also contained all the species that hadn't been discovered and identified yet, from all corners of the globe that hadn't been mapped yet.  Maybe it was a time machine.   Tongue

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June 21, 2014, 02:50:38 PM
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Where's the geological evidence of a global flood?

Explain the un-broken histories of the Egyptians; Chinese; cultures in the Hindus Valley, all with histories that pre-date your mythical deluge.

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June 21, 2014, 02:53:40 PM
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Usually folks' idea of Noah's ark are based on children's Sunday school lessons, etc.  The following students were tasked with putting one aspect to the test based on the actual biblical account - and were surprised by the results.

http://www.icr.org/article/8039/

Advanced physics students at Leicester University were tasked with determining if the Biblical dimensions of Noah's ark—assuming it was properly constructed—could have supported the mass of 70,000 animals
They used Archimedes principle (how much mass as calculated from the water displacement) to estimate whether or not the alleged above water size of the ark could hold approximately 70,000 animals (not sure why that was the number).

Since earth is home to nearly 9 million species incapable of interbreeding successfully, there has been a WHOLE LOT of evolution going on since the flood when those 70,000 individuals (35,000 species) stepped off the ark.

If you accept the flood and ark story, then you must accept that evolution occurs very swiftly and with marked results creating all sorts of new species incapable of interbreeding with their ancestral forms in only a few thousand years.  Kind of a dilemma huh ?

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June 21, 2014, 03:01:45 PM
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Hey, good questions - if meant seriously.  Of course, you all missed the point of the OP (can't say I am surprised), but hey, this could be a good discussion, if you are willing to think outside of your boxes.

I doubt you are serious though - at least several of those questions have been dealt with by scholars - but whether due to fear or what not, you are not aware of them.
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June 21, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
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Hey, good questions - if meant seriously.  Of course, you all missed the point of the OP (can't say I am surprised), but hey, this could be a good discussion, if you are willing to think outside of your boxes.

I doubt you are serious though - at least several of those questions have been dealt with by scholars - but whether due to fear or what not, you are not aware of them.
No, they haven't.AiG and ICR do not employ scholars.

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June 21, 2014, 03:08:51 PM
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Hey, good questions - if meant seriously.  Of course, you all missed the point of the OP (can't say I am surprised), but hey, this could be a good discussion, if you are willing to think outside of your boxes.

I doubt you are serious though - at least several of those questions have been dealt with by scholars - but whether due to fear or what not, you are not aware of them.
No, they haven't.AiG and ICR do not employ scholars.
Yes they have, and yes they do.  That is extremely dishonest way to skirt the issue, driver.  Not exactly a shocker .....
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June 21, 2014, 03:14:17 PM
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Hey, good questions - if meant seriously.  Of course, you all missed the point of the OP (can't say I am surprised), but hey, this could be a good discussion, if you are willing to think outside of your boxes.

I doubt you are serious though - at least several of those questions have been dealt with by scholars - but whether due to fear or what not, you are not aware of them.
No, they haven't.AiG and ICR do not employ scholars.
Yes they have, and yes they do.  That is extremely dishonest way to skirt the issue, driver.  Not exactly a shocker .....
I have not skirted any issue.It's no secret that the sources on the topic are nothing but religious propaganda sites that post nothing but 100% grade A bullshit. There is not an ounce of truth in ANYTHING posted by AiG and ICR.

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June 21, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
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Any vessel big enough to comply with the biblical dimensions would break up in the smallest water movement, let alone the tempest described.

Collection of the animals, more than 95% of them unknown to primitive Middle Eastern nomads, would have been impossible given the technology available at the time.

All the witterings of the bible were the result of primitive, pre Bronze Age nomads' imagining things they could not rationally explain.   Sensible people see them as such and when science suggests they were wrong, quietly drop them as anything other than what they are: fantasies.

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June 21, 2014, 04:33:51 PM
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LOL!

Guys, look at where this website is, they're calling themselves the "Institute for creation research" basically these are a bunch of creationists who are going to post up this kind of stuff to try and make a 'point' yes, I'd say the maths behind Noah's Ark would actually be possible, with today's technology, I sincerely doubt anything else though, never mind the fact that you'd have to pile animals in cages to get them to stay on the boat, not only that the people who made the bible at the time probably didn't have the knowledge or the capability of building a boat as big as that and you also have the bullshit to deal with where the bible claims the earth is only a few thousand years old and so on oh and then there's the possibility of worldwide flooding as described actually happening in that time period.

It's a bit like people who attack Bitcoin coming up with their own bullshit like how people will hoard coins rather than spend them etc. just because they don't understand it and haven't bothered doing any research, yes, I consider this to be on the same level of pettiness.
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June 22, 2014, 10:20:39 PM
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I was just wondering....

Was the rain normal or it was salt water rain..
Cause Noah didn't take any sharks on the boat , nor carps.
And with all the world covered in water....


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