bitcoinbelieve (OP)
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June 21, 2014, 02:31:13 PM |
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I think 1~1.15 bitcoin is right price. If its over 1.5, I'm out
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Biodom
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June 21, 2014, 02:51:08 PM |
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0.85 BTC or less. just look at the diff numbers
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June 21, 2014, 03:49:31 PM |
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For me I can make .9 btc work even 1.0 btc but higher then 1.0 btc
I may just look into the rk-box miners or the tube miners from AM
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nexus99
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June 21, 2014, 09:03:09 PM |
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less than 1 BTC. They are still making HUGE profit.
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bitcoinbelieve (OP)
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June 21, 2014, 10:21:14 PM |
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It will be great if it's under 1
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pmorici
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June 22, 2014, 12:33:24 AM |
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I think 1~1.15 bitcoin is right price. If its over 1.5, I'm out
Assuming they ship in early July .75 BTC would be reasonable. Anything more than that would be a really tough sell at the current BTC price.
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kendog77
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June 22, 2014, 12:38:20 AM |
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I think it's a mistake to invest in any Bitcoin mining hardware until the difficulty settles down a bit. KNC appears to be killing the difficulty right now with the Neptune, and it's hard to say where it will finally level out. Bitmain's timing with the S3 could not have been worse for them from a pricing standpoint. I had planned on buying quite a few batch one S3s, but after seeing the difficulty get murdered like it is right now, I'm not going to buy any unless they are offered at rock bottom prices (under $1/GH). Here is food for thought: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyAlso, the network daily growth rate appears to have either leveled out or is heading back up: http://bitcoin.sipa.beProceed with caution. I'm glad I don't have any hardware pre-orders that won't be delivered until August or September!
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June 22, 2014, 01:03:49 AM |
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I'm not going to buy any unless they are offered at rock bottom prices (under $1/GH).
^ this
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June 22, 2014, 01:17:28 AM |
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For me I can make .9 btc work even 1.0 btc but higher then 1.0 btc
How? this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Assuming 1% hashrate growth per day ( which is lower than we've seen anytime in recent memory), .15/kwh power @$593/btc, and delivery on July 15th, the income should peak out at 0.92 BTC in a couple months. 1.0 BTC sounds like a nearly guaranteed loss— it's a strong bet that hashpower will suddenly stop growing, unless you're not paying for power. I loved the Bitmain S1 (S2 appeared less often, I'm glad to see the S3 looking more like the S1 design) but break even before considering the costs of power/cooling/psu or trouble is not a good deal, not for the miner or the ecosystem. I hope Bitmain will be willing and able to get a bit more aggressive with the prices. There is considerable risk in mining— including the risk that the Bitcoin community chooses to make some miner breaking POW changes to improve some of the centralization problems. I'm not saying people should be guaranteed a windfall, but if people are taking on risks without a solid prospect of being compensated for them I think they're crazy.
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KimNam
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June 22, 2014, 01:50:29 AM Last edit: June 22, 2014, 02:00:32 AM by KimNam |
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if they start shipping next month, i prefer around 0.8-0.9 BTC maybe if difficulty stop raise like crazy, i'll consider to buy 3 of them EDIT : hmm i see some group buys said the price will be around 1.1-1.25 BTC
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June 22, 2014, 05:11:51 AM |
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For me I can make .9 btc work even 1.0 btc but higher then 1.0 btc
How? this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Assuming 1% hashrate growth per day ( which is lower than we've seen anytime in recent memory), .15/kwh power @$593/btc, and delivery on July 15th, the income should peak out at 0.92 BTC in a couple months. 1.0 BTC sounds like a nearly guaranteed loss— it's a strong bet that hashpower will suddenly stop growing, unless you're not paying for power. I loved the Bitmain S1 (S2 appeared less often, I'm glad to see the S3 looking more like the S1 design) but break even before considering the costs of power/cooling/psu or trouble is not a good deal, not for the miner or the ecosystem. I hope Bitmain will be willing and able to get a bit more aggressive with the prices. There is considerable risk in mining— including the risk that the Bitcoin community chooses to make some miner breaking POW changes to improve some of the centralization problems. I'm not saying people should be guaranteed a windfall, but if people are taking on risks without a solid prospect of being compensated for them I think they're crazy. He probably has dirty cheap electricity like I do, $0.04/kwh
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bitcoinbelieve (OP)
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June 22, 2014, 01:07:05 PM |
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I have a feeling that Bitmain is going to wait for S2 to be sold out first, before S3 becomes available
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KimNam
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June 22, 2014, 01:31:09 PM |
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I have a feeling that Bitmain is going to wait for S2 to be sold out first, before S3 becomes available
i don't think so since S2 and S3 have different price range they can sell S2 and S3 together
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bitcoinbelieve (OP)
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June 22, 2014, 01:34:55 PM |
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if that is the case then what is the hold up? 3 days have been passed
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June 22, 2014, 03:29:16 PM |
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About $250, cause I'm pretty sure I could resell it for more.
If we lived in a fantasy land where I couldn't resell the hardware, I'd pay about $100 for it.
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pmorici
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June 22, 2014, 04:52:35 PM |
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if that is the case then what is the hold up? 3 days have been passed They announced yesterday that they were delaying announcing the price by a week.
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June 22, 2014, 06:54:29 PM |
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We can all wait for a few weeks they will mine on their onw and then sold it to us... If price is about 1 btc for 500 ghs am in otherwise I can buy the rockminer
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bitcoinbelieve (OP)
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June 22, 2014, 09:07:39 PM |
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if that is the case then what is the hold up? 3 days have been passed They announced yesterday that they were delaying announcing the price by a week. I didn't know that. The price should be below 1 then
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June 23, 2014, 02:55:14 PM |
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if that is the case then what is the hold up? 3 days have been passed They announced yesterday that they were delaying announcing the price by a week. I didn't know that. The price should be below 1 then Delaying the release a week affects your price that much? Obviously the price should be below 1 BTC. I cannot stand when ignorant people say they would be willing to pay over 1 BTC. You will never make any money in that case. Price needs to be around 0.7 BTC for me to even consider buying any units.
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