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June 23, 2014, 05:02:53 PM
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The top reason to drop right now would be traders selling out on a break of trend. There are a lot traders just front running the next 'scheduled 9 month bubble' which might not happen.

A much simpler explanation is that hedge funds or other funds that are interested in buying into the auction are employing traders to push the price down so they could bid lower.
They do it all the time on a regular stock market (push down before buying en masse). That was described brilliantly by Jesse Livermore, who was always testing the downside of the market before buying a larger block. Read "Reminiscences of a stock operator"-a classic.
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June 23, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
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i think we very well may not get that "scheduled" bubble. but if not, i still expect a big fakeout from all the traders waiting to panic buy back in. then maybe reverse at somewhere in the 700-800 area....
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June 24, 2014, 04:17:18 AM
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I can't see the miner's profitability effecting the price other than maybe some miners may consider buying coins instead of hardware.  There are a lot of Bitcoin users who have never even owned a miner.
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June 24, 2014, 05:21:55 AM
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I can't see the miner's profitability effecting the price other than maybe some miners may consider buying coins instead of hardware.  There are a lot of Bitcoin users who have never even owned a miner.

Interesting...the analogy would be that you think that the price of gold is unaffected by how much it costs to mine it?

Edit: As was proposed by Y. Guo (per my recollection), every bitcoin owner should also mine. This way, you have a vote on Bitcoin value, etc. If you don't mine-you relinquish this responsibility to someone else who takes it.

As of right now, for every 100BTC owned, you need to mine with 590GH only (almost exactly three antminers S1), everything more is an excess.
calculation: (0.59TH/125000TH)X21000000btc=~100 BTC or ~1Th for each 150 BTC owned. These are, of course, minimal numbers that will increase as speed will be increasing.
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June 25, 2014, 10:55:55 PM
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The price won't rise again until people know what is happening with the 30k btc auction. Will the auction winner turn around and dump the coins at an exchange? That seems to be the current fear.
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June 25, 2014, 11:41:54 PM
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We will see how it will turns out, but I am speculating that we are about to trend significantly higher (within the next 14-30 days).


Bad days for Bitcoin = Good profitable investments for us, it's about time for a rally that will start at the beggining of July, just get ready for it, do not miss it please...
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June 26, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
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The top reason to drop right now would be traders selling out on a break of trend. There are a lot traders just front running the next 'scheduled 9 month bubble' which might not happen.

A much simpler explanation is that hedge funds or other funds that are interested in buying into the auction are employing traders to push the price down so they could bid lower.
They do it all the time on a regular stock market (push down before buying en masse). That was described brilliantly by Jesse Livermore, who was always testing the downside of the market before buying a larger block. Read "Reminiscences of a stock operator"-a classic.

There are some great quotes in that book. I'm gonna have to add it to my reading pile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reminiscences_of_a_Stock_Operator

Here are a couple of my favorites:

"Old man Partridge's insistence on the vital importance of being continuously bullish in a bull market doubtless made my mind dwell on the need above all other things of determining the kind of market a man is trading in. I began to realize that the big money must necessarily be in the big swing. Whatever might seem to give a big swing, initial impulse, the fact is that its continuance is not the result of manipulation by pools or artifice by financiers, but depends upon basic conditions. And no matter who opposes it, the swing must inevitably run as far and as fast and as long as the impelling forces determine."

"I should say that a chart helps those who can read it or rather who can assimilate what they read. The average chart reader, however, is apt to become obsessed with the notion that the dips and peaks and primary and secondary movements are all there is to stock speculation. If he pushes his confidence to its logical limit he is bound to go broke."
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