colemab (OP)
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June 21, 2014, 06:00:46 PM |
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With electricity being 11.5 cents a kWH, rising difficulty, and the recent drop in BTC to USD, by my math my 4 Cubes will not generate enough income to cover the cost of electricity in then next 9 days or so.
Shortly after that (2-4 weeks?), my BFL units will be in the same position. I expect that by the end of July / early August I will shut the entire mining operation down.
I post this because I was wondering if anyone else was starting to get in the same position with the 'older' ASIC (i.e. 110 nm, 65 nm, 55nm) units?
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Ridicuss
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June 21, 2014, 06:20:56 PM |
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Shut my farm down at the end of May. I'm on a tiered electrical plan and comfort became more important than profit. I live in a hot state and need the AC on. Now what to do with this almost worthless gear? 2.6TH/s of misc lol...
Dont know if I want to hassle with shipping or not. This stuff can probably just collect dust in the basement. It served me well.
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Two4D
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June 21, 2014, 08:26:49 PM |
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You can both PM me what you are selling  |
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jonsi
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June 21, 2014, 08:54:54 PM |
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Shut my farm down at the end of May. I'm on a tiered electrical plan and comfort became more important than profit. I live in a hot state and need the AC on. Now what to do with this almost worthless gear? 2.6TH/s of misc lol...
Dont know if I want to hassle with shipping or not. This stuff can probably just collect dust in the basement. It served me well.
Regards,
You can try to sell it. Many people have free electricity or t very low cost, I'm sure you will find someone interested in buying. |
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dropt
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June 21, 2014, 10:06:53 PM |
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I shut my Avalon G1 down in March of this year. I reckon I've got a few more months of S1 mining left, and we'll see how long the S2's can run for.
You either upgrade incrementally or shut down for good. Personally, I'm slowly working towards the latter. I've been mining since Jan 2012 and saved 80% of the coins I ever mined. My efforts now aren't going to get me any further ahead in a relative sense and that's okay.
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xstr8guy
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June 21, 2014, 10:15:06 PM |
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I shut my Avalon G1 down in March of this year. I reckon I've got a few more months of S1 mining left, and we'll see how long the S2's can run for.
You either upgrade incrementally or shut down for good. Personally, I'm slowly working towards the latter. I've been mining since Jan 2012 and saved 80% of the coins I ever mined. My efforts now aren't going to get me any further ahead in a relative sense and that's okay.
I'm doing the same. My first gen gear has long been dormant. But I still have a house full of 1GHs/1w miners that will probably get shut down by the end of summer. |
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ajareselde
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Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin
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June 24, 2014, 12:35:59 PM |
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With electricity being 11.5 cents a kWH, rising difficulty, and the recent drop in BTC to USD, by my math my 4 Cubes will not generate enough income to cover the cost of electricity in then next 9 days or so.
Shortly after that (2-4 weeks?), my BFL units will be in the same position. I expect that by the end of July / early August I will shut the entire mining operation down.
I post this because I was wondering if anyone else was starting to get in the same position with the 'older' ASIC (i.e. 110 nm, 65 nm, 55nm) units?
just shut it down, mining has become over saturated, and profits are none/minimal. i would also sell all equipement asap, while it still worths something. there were some nice and profitable days as a miner, but that is long gone now. |
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ThirtyQuidKid
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June 24, 2014, 03:26:34 PM |
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Shutting mine down in the next few days. Cost of running and expected return means it's not worth it for much longer. Decided to sell on the equipment while I can to get some extra money back from it.
After this I'll try some cloud mining or maybe try some co-located equipment somewhere the electricity is cheap....
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cryptnutter
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June 24, 2014, 04:00:08 PM |
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Damn, it is kind of sad hearing these stories. Satoshi envisioned everyone mining with their PC in an egalitarian fashion and now even with ultra expensive specialized equipment, mining is no longer viable  |
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DrG
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June 24, 2014, 07:24:24 PM |
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Wait until 2016. It will turn around when the 1/2 comes. Hopefully by then a lot of the big players will be marginalized. Of course 2016 is the equivalent of a century away in BTC terms  |
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philipma1957
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June 24, 2014, 08:56:55 PM |
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Wait until 2016. It will turn around when the 1/2 comes. Hopefully by then a lot of the big players will be marginalized. Of course 2016 is the equivalent of a century away in BTC terms The half should be interesting. As for long term mining in house not that easy to do. I have supplemented mining by selling off gear on ebay far quicker then the op has done. My cubes sold in Jan. I set the buyer up he made some coin and he sold them in feb. fast turnover or die. If you held and mined most any gear other then a perfectly timed jupiter purchase you got killed. I have about 210gh in house and a hosted 1th miner in china along with 3 s-1's in a friends office. the s-1's cost use 3.5 to 4 cents a k-watt under volt under clocked and they have roi'd in fiat due to the btc price jump from 420 usd to 586 usd. They won't do btc roi until july 30th. That is with my lower power rates. |
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June 25, 2014, 03:29:09 AM |
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I shut my Avalon G1 down in March of this year. I reckon I've got a few more months of S1 mining left, and we'll see how long the S2's can run for.
You either upgrade incrementally or shut down for good. Personally, I'm slowly working towards the latter. I've been mining since Jan 2012 and saved 80% of the coins I ever mined. My efforts now aren't going to get me any further ahead in a relative sense and that's okay.
I'm doing the same. My first gen gear has long been dormant. But I still have a house full of 1GHs/1w miners that will probably get shut down by the end of summer. Depending on where you live they may be able to be used as heaters and you could turn down your furnace a little bit |
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June 25, 2014, 03:33:29 AM |
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Maybe to do mining a little longer you can downclock them and get better cost per gh/s ?
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feverpitch
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June 25, 2014, 04:09:53 AM |
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I'm trying to sell my Terraminer. The cost of electricity mixed with the nutty hashrate is getting out of control. Cant beleive how fast that hashrate climbed.  |
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DrG
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June 25, 2014, 06:29:46 AM |
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I shut my Avalon G1 down in March of this year. I reckon I've got a few more months of S1 mining left, and we'll see how long the S2's can run for.
You either upgrade incrementally or shut down for good. Personally, I'm slowly working towards the latter. I've been mining since Jan 2012 and saved 80% of the coins I ever mined. My efforts now aren't going to get me any further ahead in a relative sense and that's okay.
I'm doing the same. My first gen gear has long been dormant. But I still have a house full of 1GHs/1w miners that will probably get shut down by the end of summer. Depending on where you live they may be able to be used as heaters and you could turn down your furnace a little bit Yes for the southern hemisphere that has cheap electricity and expensive gas heating with miners is an option. That's probably the only place you'll find Avalons, BFL Singles, and AM Blades running. Even if you have free power the space the miners occupy is propably not free... somebody has to pay for a lease or property taxes. |
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June 25, 2014, 11:52:31 AM |
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Don't bother to mine anymore. If you still like to mine, rent . There are gr8 offers available out there.
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FeodoroAndy
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June 25, 2014, 02:02:22 PM |
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Don't bother to mine anymore. If you still like to mine, rent . There are gr8 offers available out there.
Is renting has any sense now ? |
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JessicaSe
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June 25, 2014, 02:49:10 PM |
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Don't bother to mine anymore. If you still like to mine, rent . There are gr8 offers available out there.
Is renting has any sense now ? I too want to know a renting service that can ROI. |
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DrG
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June 25, 2014, 08:00:57 PM |
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Don't bother to mine anymore. If you still like to mine, rent . There are gr8 offers available out there.
Is renting has any sense now ? I too want to know a renting service that can ROI. Think about this. Why would somebody go out of his/her way to host miners and have them mine so that you could make a PROFIT off of such an endeavor. They would be dealing with the noise, heat, pollution, maintenance while you get the riches? It is possible, but I can't really find examples of this in my life. Having said that, I can't really find too many examples of where buying a miner earns you more than buying the coins. BTC dropped to $560, it's even cheaper to buy now, makes more sense than 2 weeks ago to buy as opposed to mine unless you plan on solo mining. |
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June 25, 2014, 09:25:58 PM |
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Having said that, I can't really find too many examples of where buying a miner earns you more than buying the coins. BTC dropped to $560, it's even cheaper to buy now, makes more sense than 2 weeks ago to buy as opposed to mine unless you plan on solo mining.
Unfortunately the idea that miners should just trade has never been a goer. Its a bit like telling a crack head they should just sell crack instead of using it. As for turning off mining rigs. I have this feeling that the bigger established mining farms are struggling themselves to survive with the massive increase in difficulty which hasn't been the result this time of them all incrementally increasing their hashrates as appears to be the case in the past, but rather it appears to be the result of lots of new mining farms coming online and taking away a large chunk of others earnings. I assume then that these established farms will now be hoping for a drop off of the part of the network hashrate that exists because of home mining and just may be trying to hang in there until this happens. I wonder what would happen if we just didn't turn our miners off when they cease turning a profit, and just kept on mining even if there was no ROI but just enough turn around of BTC to pay the power bill. Especially those in the northern hemisphere who are heading toward fall, and could subsidise their mining costs by using them as heat sources throughout fall, winter and spring. That might just be the proverbial straw that breaks the camels back in the next 3 - 5 months as the big farms continue their little stand-off waiting for some section of the hashing network to break first. It would be a gamble that could have little to no affect, but it might be worth considering. |
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