Horizon 4K VR headset pre-order

[btc_shell]

I bought four of these on opening day.

I'm selling one of them.  If interested PM me.

horizon4K.com

[mcramer]

I just bought one on their site today too.  No offense but, they're taking preorders on their site, why would I (or anyone) buy yours?

[btc_shell]

I just bought one on their site today too.  No offense but, they're taking preorders on their site, why would I (or anyone) buy yours?

none taken- good question-

I suppose I'm offering my choice spot in line.  -uh, forgot to mention that.

So the order number is  00134, which I'm assuming means I'm 134th in line-  today's order numbers are over 01000+ according to another member on the forum who just ordered one.

I can get a btc refund from them no according to website- I just hope to make about $100 premium for the low order number-

hope that answers your question.

[buttsoup99]

Wow, just wow. That anyone would even consider sending money after reading the claims on that website is just mind-boggling. Might as well be called the ScamView 9000: The World's First Totally-Real-And-Absolutely-Not-Made-Up-And-Impossibly-Awesome VR Headset, brought to you by NigerianPrince Incorporated.  If you think you're ever gonna get a product, or even a refund, good freakin' luck.

(It's important to do a little bit of research on VR hardware before buying - there's a reason the two multibillion dollar-backed teams working on VR headsets haven't released yet, and that's because building a good VR headset just happens to be very very difficult.)

[btc_shell]

Wow, just wow. That anyone would even consider sending money after reading the claims on that website is just mind-boggling. Might as well be called the ScamView 9000: The World's First Totally-Real-And-Absolutely-Not-Made-Up-And-Impossibly-Awesome VR Headset, brought to you by NigerianPrince Incorporated.  If you think you're ever gonna get a product, or even a refund, good freakin' luck.

(It's important to do a little bit of research on VR hardware before buying - there's a reason the two multibillion dollar-backed teams working on VR headsets haven't released yet, and that's because building a good VR headset just happens to be very very difficult.)

Wow, just wow.  It' amazing that you just registered here on the forums in order to post that comment as it's your first and you just registered today. So wow, you must work for Oculus then?

Or maybe you're the nigerian prince?

If you had done your research you'd know that Samsung is releasing a 4K smartphone 5.5" handset in Q1 2015 which is smaller than the 7" one Horizon VR is releasing.  There are numerous news reports about it.  Just google a little.

The 4K smartphone race is heating up for 2015 with several big names slated to release their offerings, so is it any wonder someone has secured a screen provider to supply those same screens?  Duh....

Anyway, I figured there'd be opposition, and you've proved me right.  Some of us will be gaming on 4K long before the Oculus consumer version hits in 1080p. 


Good luck convincing people with your obvious "I signed up just to post garbage about about a rival company, and no one will notice!".

first post... sheesh

[mcramer]

cheesy...  

Yes, 4K smartphones are coming next year.  Anyone who doesn't think so is drinking the poolwater.

Just google 4K smartphones.

or if you're lazy here's an article from engadget about the coming 4K smartphones.  

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/18/do-you-really-need-a-4k-smartphone-screen/


So btc_shell you're right it isn't a stretch to plan on a 7" 4K display arriving by then.  My only question is why didn't they go with a 5.6" 4K display like the one Samsung is developing?  my guess is pricing, at least initially.

It doesn't take much research to know 4K is on the horizon (no pun intended) for early '15.  

can't wait, personally.

[buttsoup99]

Yes, 4K screens are coming. But you may have noticed, those rumored smartphones are being released by Samsung, not by a company that literally registered its website a week ago. And it's so great Horizon4k doesn't need to show a devkit version of their headset, because of course this company no one's ever heard of got it perfect the first time around. Unlike Sony, who has no experience building hardware and keeps screwing it up. But the 4K screens aren't the only reason Horizon4K's claims look laughably stupid.

It's partly the low effort on their website. Just look at that headset render! It's literally a horrible MSpaint edit of the Infiniteye VR headset and of one of the first Google images results for "horizon". Yeah, that looks like a product that's ready for market.

If anything, I guess it's good that the product is so obviously fake, because then the only people who'll send their money are the ones who deserve to be scammed (not talking about you guys in the thread, you're clearly just hyping up the 'product'). Happy scamming!

[btc_shell]

If anything, I guess it's good that the product is so obviously fake, because then the only people who'll send their money are the ones who deserve to be scammed (not talking about you guys in the thread, you're clearly just hyping up the 'product'). Happy scamming!

nope, no hype here. -just stating I bought them.

But it is interesting to me, I don't think you're a regular reader of these forums, and that's ok-  the reason being that the bitcoin community has been far more willing to take chances on startup companies, specifically mining ones like KNCminer, Alpha Technology and many many others, whose product images didn't even exist in the beginning when they offered pre-orders, or at best were copies of 4U servers pulled directly from the web(can i get an amen?).  The point is, the render means little to nothing for many of these startups as they're just trying to get the thing under development and functioning.  The pretty design can come as it further down the road for all many of us care.  Just build us a 4K HMD and f*ck the renders.

So, it seems you're obviously coming from a different perspective, likely the HMD VR crowd who in gengeral wants to see a finished and pretty render to place in the news..   Or maybe you didn't read in their response on reddit that their site was only up for the past 3 days and google indexed them the first day resulting in an unfinished website and tons of pre-orders?

Unlike the VR community, people here are throwing money(bitcoins and cryptos) at these miner companies with little or nothing more than an announcement from them that they are developing a miner. Sometimes they win, other times they don't.  But without that, there wouldn't have been a KNC, Butterfly labs (good riddance), Alpha Tech, etc... etc... etc....

So that's what's *great* about the crypto community, unlike the VR gaming one.  

[tradderjohn]

**Shipping Q2 2015

Good Luck with that.

[buttsoup99]

So, it seems you're obviously coming from a different perspective, likely the HMD VR crowd who in gengeral wants to see a finished and pretty render to place in the news..   Or maybe you didn't read in their response on reddit that their site was only up for the past 3 days and google indexed them the first day resulting in an unfinished website and tons of pre-orders?

Unlike the VR community, people here are throwing money(bitcoins and cryptos) at these miner companies with little or nothing more than an announcement from them that they are developing a miner. Sometimes they win, other times they don't.  But without that, there wouldn't have been a KNC, Butterfly labs (good riddance), Alpha Tech, etc... etc... etc....

So that's what's *great* about the crypto community, unlike the VR gaming one.  

You're right, I am coming from the VR community. Even a passing familiarity with the VR hardware space makes it abundantly clear how completely bullshit the Horizon4k VR headset is. And even if you're not at all familiar, growing up in the internet age fosters a pretty robust scammer intuition, which I should hope is going absolutely batshit right now. So I thought I'd just share some of those insights for those who may not be aware, because the people who commit these scams damage the public trust in VR (or in any space the scammers infiltrate). And if I can take even a dollar out of their pockets, I'll gladly try.

But hey, what are you gonna do, speculators gonna speculate.

[ElectricMucus]

lol the scams of this community have started to spill over into other fields.

[btc_shell]

So, it seems you're obviously coming from a different perspective, likely the HMD VR crowd who in gengeral wants to see a finished and pretty render to place in the news..   Or maybe you didn't read in their response on reddit that their site was only up for the past 3 days and google indexed them the first day resulting in an unfinished website and tons of pre-orders?

Unlike the VR community, people here are throwing money(bitcoins and cryptos) at these miner companies with little or nothing more than an announcement from them that they are developing a miner. Sometimes they win, other times they don't.  But without that, there wouldn't have been a KNC, Butterfly labs (good riddance), Alpha Tech, etc... etc... etc....

So that's what's *great* about the crypto community, unlike the VR gaming one.  

You're right, I am coming from the VR community. Even a passing familiarity with the VR hardware space makes it abundantly clear how completely bullshit the Horizon4k VR headset is. And even if you're not at all familiar, growing up in the internet age fosters a pretty robust scammer intuition, which I should hope is going absolutely batshit right now. So I thought I'd just share some of those insights for those who may not be aware, because the people who commit these scams damage the public trust in VR (or in any space the scammers infiltrate). And if I can take even a dollar out of their pockets, I'll gladly try.

But hey, what are you gonna do, speculators gonna speculate.

What am I "gonna do" indeed- as you put it so eloquently.  However at least you are honest in that I was right you were coming here from the VR community to try to disparage it.  Also you're comments about trying to damage a new company's reputation to 'take a dollar from them' belies your underlying motives and I highly suspect you're from a rival company, possibly Infiniteye, who's design is similar but only 720p.  So while your welcome to continue the smear campaign in front of us who've ordered the V, I will say this-

When Oculus started, they were simply a kickstarter campaign out of a garage- no product, nothing, zip, zilch, and just an idea and a promise.   -They raised over a million bucks.  Where were you back then crying that 'they have no product!' or 'it's bullshit' or an impossible idea?  So, they were merely an idea and a ski mask and cell phone.  But yet you won't extend the same to another company pushing 4K limits with an idea due in a year?  It's obviously a campaign no doubt, but your hypocrisy smells a bit to me like excrement.  

It's why I'm saying you work for a rival company.  You can't stand to see a competitor come out and get funded by people eager to see the technology be release -again in a year.  sheesh-

So to sum up, maybe you aren't aware (you are) that the LG G3 has already been released in QHD.  Now if I strap two of those puppies onto a 3D printed frame which I made in my 3D printer at home in my garage (even more than Oculus did to start!), and connected them via Splashtop or other to my GPUs- and then said 'wow this is great' and formed a company, hired some developers, and started a kickstarter campaign to pursue, you'd cry too wouldn't you?  You can't extend the same courtesy to another company because you believe only that Oculus has the right to do that!  But that's not correct- anyone is free to start a campaign based on an idea.  Not just Oculus nor their fanboys protecting the legend of they started in a garage.  Anyone can start in a garage with an idea.  If people back it, it can be pushed forward.

So, jealousy I think.  You just don't want anyone to beat your company to the task.

Horizon could easily be working with QHD prototype screens from an LG G3 and waiting for the panels to arrive next year to up the resolution a bit- which is pretty similar to what they've hinted at.  But good luck convincing others that QHD phones don't exist too and that you couldn't strap them to your head with a couple of cheap fresnels!

[mcramer]

Horizon could easily be working with QHD prototype screens from an LG G3 and waiting for the panels to arrive next year to up the resolution a bit- which is pretty similar to what they've hinted at.  But good luck convincing others that QHD phones don't exist too and that you couldn't strap them to your head with a couple of cheap fresnels!

 Well put!  ;)That's what we're hoping. 
QHD screens are already in the hands of so many kids and their new G3's.  Seriously, I bet if Horizon claimed to use these instead and give only QHD this guy would still cry they don't exist or some nonsense.   He doesn't seem to get the idea of a pre-order campaign. Or he's downright just slandering the competition.

Of course there's always risk in a campaign far ahead.  Oculus didn't have sh*t when they started.  At least guys show a prototype and have 4K screens coming from a couple of manufacturers in 2015 to back it up that it should be mainstream by then. 

but what are you gonna do-  no one on this board hardly beleived KNC when they started either.  Just look at the beginning of that thread!


I have no regrets about my pre-order, and if they don't bring 4K next year, some other VR startup will- but that won't be Oculus since they use only one screen.

[buttsoup99]

When Oculus started, they were simply a kickstarter campaign out of a garage- no product, nothing, zip, zilch, and just an idea and a promise.   -They raised over a million bucks.  Where were you back then crying that 'they have no product!' or 'it's bullshit' or an impossible idea?  So, they were merely an idea and a ski mask and cell phone.  But yet you won't extend the same to another company pushing 4K limits with an idea due in a year?  It's obviously a campaign no doubt, but your hypocrisy smells a bit to me like excrement.  

It's why I'm saying you work for a rival company.  You can't stand to see a competitor come out and get funded by people eager to see the technology be release -again in a year.  sheesh-

Haha, I wish I worked for a VR company. Unfortunately I'm just an enthusiast.

When Oculus launched their kickstarter they had video demonstrations of people using the Rift, and they had gushing endorsements from Gabe Newell, John Carmack, Michael Abrash and other huge names in gaming. And the way kickstarter is set up, if they don't get fully funded they don't get paid, and there's a significant degree of accountability.

This "company" just has a stolen render, impossible claims, and the means to donate untraceably and unrefundably. Hah.

Anyway this argument is futile so I'm going to stop posting here. I'd point anyone who comes here to this blog post: http://www.roadtovr.com/alert-horizon-v-hmd-legitimacy-concerns-grow-know-far/

[brian_23452]

Horizon could easily be working with QHD prototype screens from an LG G3 and waiting for the panels to arrive next year to up the resolution a bit- which is pretty similar to what they've hinted at.  But good luck convincing others that QHD phones don't exist too and that you couldn't strap them to your head with a couple of cheap fresnels!

 Well put!  ;)That's what we're hoping. 
QHD screens are already in the hands of so many kids and their new G3's.  Seriously, I bet if Horizon claimed to use these instead and give only QHD this guy would still cry they don't exist or some nonsense.   He doesn't seem to get the idea of a pre-order campaign. Or he's downright just slandering the competition.

Of course there's always risk in a campaign far ahead.  Oculus didn't have sh*t when they started.  At least guys show a prototype and have 4K screens coming from a couple of manufacturers in 2015 to back it up that it should be mainstream by then. 

but what are you gonna do-  no one on this board hardly beleived KNC when they started either.  Just look at the beginning of that thread!


I have no regrets about my pre-order, and if they don't bring 4K next year, some other VR startup will- but that won't be Oculus since they use only one screen.

But why would you want to finance their operation?  They don't appear to be offering interest on this loan.  They don't appear to be offering equity in the company, or profit sharing, or anything.  Forget about believing in their business plan for a moment, why would you or I or anyone else want to give them an interest free loan?

[btc_shell]

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But why would you want to finance their operation?  They don't appear to be offering interest on this loan.  They don't appear to be offering equity in the company, or profit sharing, or anything.  Forget about believing in their business plan for a moment, why would you or I or anyone else want to give them an interest free loan?
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 a good point, but isn't that what kickstarter is?  We all help the company get to the point of launch in exchange for a thanks and a shot at their product for a discount  once it releases...  I got a hefty discount.  I do see your point about me buying 4 of them though.  It wasn't to support them, just to give one to the girlfriend, the younger brother and an extra one to sell-

fyi.  given all the commotion lately and site closing- I've asked for 3 refunds.  I'm hanging onto one order 'just in case'.

will keep you all updated on the 3 btc refunds.

[btc_shell]

three refunded. 

if they were a scam would they have given my btc back???

I'm hanging on to one 

[mcramer]

lucky you.
I talked with one of them the other day, said they we're 'sorting things out' before relaunching. 

))))) hope so