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June 26, 2014, 07:07:29 AM
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If there is one thing Bitcoin is not, it's democratic.  Don't mess with the B-T-C!

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June 26, 2014, 07:17:43 AM
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remember noobs, selecting tx based on fees is straight forward.

Other than that, you're just fcking around without knowing jack about TXs.


Actually, I wrote my own python-based bitcoin client a year or so ago. and that's all I have to say about that.

And your python-based client (which is mostly done already on github) does jack shit about what you're proposing.

We've discussed about tainted coin analysis long b4 your "own client" being worked on.

Moving on noob.
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June 26, 2014, 07:20:01 AM
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Hell no. Assuming you cod accurately identify which coins are under the control of the government (you probably will screw some poor sod on the other side of the world in all likelihood) it sets up an extremely bad precedent that could be abused in the future. For better or for worse these coins have ended up in the hands of the government and you can't do anything about it lest you destabilising Bitcoin in the future. If what you've stated was implemented, the select people who had control over the pools and held a crude could effectively steal someone else's coins with no moral/ethical justification. It gives all that power into the hands of a few.
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June 26, 2014, 07:38:22 AM
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Hell no. Assuming you cod accurately identify which coins are under the control of the government (you probably will screw some poor sod on the other side of the world in all likelihood) it sets up an extremely bad precedent that could be abused in the future. For better or for worse these coins have ended up in the hands of the government and you can't do anything about it lest you destabilising Bitcoin in the future. If what you've stated was implemented, the select people who had control over the pools and held a crude could effectively steal someone else's coins with no moral/ethical justification. It gives all that power into the hands of a few.

I swear many of these noobs need to read about currency and its characteristics. One of which is fungible.
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June 26, 2014, 07:40:23 AM
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Absolutely not!  Are you freakin kidding me?!  Who the hell thinks like that?!!

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June 26, 2014, 07:47:12 AM
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Absolutely not!  Are you freakin kidding me?!  Who the hell thinks like that?!!

Well not sure what planet you're from, but here on Earth, idiots dont think.
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June 26, 2014, 08:36:47 AM
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  2 - Even if the coins sell at $250 each, the government that basically stole them still gets to be $7 million richer.


"The government" is not a person.  It is not even a clear entity of any sort.  "The FBI" is also not a person but is at least a slightly more specific moniker that can refer somewhat more easily to the real people involved.  The proceeds of the SR theft and coin auction will go one way or another into the pockets of individuals just as they always do when uniformed gang members rob entrepeneurs. 

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June 26, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
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Does it not harm the currency more, if BTC are taken out of circulation? {More BTC = more transactions.

I'd rather have people spending it, and using it, than having it somewhere, where it's doing nothing. Too many coins are hoarded anyways... And then we have the 1 million Satoshi coins too.  Sad

The Fed cleaned them for us, we {BTC community} just borrowed it to them. 

The fact of the matter is, the negative publicity of those coins, hurt us as a community more. Reputation is not a cheap commodity.

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June 26, 2014, 09:28:52 AM
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No. Effectively blacklisting coins for whatever reason = bad and most likely end of Bitcoin.

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June 26, 2014, 12:30:11 PM
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No. Effectively blacklisting coins for whatever reason = bad and most likely end of Bitcoin.

agreed, the whole point of bitcoin is freedom, and by reacting to fed coins, you would break the very thing that makes bitcoin so unique.
we all hate feds, but this wouldnt justify interfering with blockchain.

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June 26, 2014, 12:38:29 PM
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No, no. And - most importantly:
No.

Stop making stupid threads please.

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June 26, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
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No, no. And - most importantly:
No.

Stop making stupid threads please.

but the trolls need to make up stupid threads, because they are running out of quality threads to post on to get the 4000 posts a month quota for their footer adverts...

i prefer they waffle and make 20 posts in useless threads, rather then waffle nonsense in quality threads

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June 26, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
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All coins were made equal no need to blacklist them.

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June 26, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
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JeromeS you ignorant slut.

This idiotic idea has been proposed in dozens of threads and, no matter how many times it is proposed, it is still one of the worst possible ideas ever proposed.

1) It would not hurt "the man" at all, not even a tiny little bit.
2) It would hurt and rip off all those nice people who buy the coins at the auction because you have made the coins they purchased totally worthless.
3) It would damage the fungibility of Bitcoin making all bitcoins even your own totally worthless, see my signature.

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June 26, 2014, 02:05:24 PM
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now lets say both ghash and eligius both devilishly decided to tweak their code and to look at the mempool of tx's and if there was a TX belonging to a known SR hoard. Ghash and eigius wold delete th TX from their mempool so it wont enter one of their blocks.
No, as you said this would only delay the transaction.

They would rather put a (soft) forking change in their code that considers any transaction or block using SR coins invalid. So if anyone else mines a block with these coins, they just get forked by ghash + eligius again and again until they learn the hard way that they should not include these transactions. This is just a normal 51% attack.

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June 26, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
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Four people voted for this proposal?  Fucking morons.

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June 26, 2014, 02:28:35 PM
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Four people voted for this proposal?  Fucking morons.

well it is after all just a hypothetical debate. its not like the results would actually do any real world change/prevention. so its not a real world decision people need to make. just a question of opinion, thus some dont see the point in voting

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June 26, 2014, 02:40:15 PM
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Never will I support blacklising coins it is a VERY dangerous idea.  Things will go bad if we do, never support black listing.

It is similar to the idea of "if you are doing nothing wrong why do you care if we monitor every single aspect of your life".
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June 26, 2014, 02:44:10 PM
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Simply, no.
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June 26, 2014, 03:09:14 PM
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The way I see it, even if they cause the price to temporarily go down, it'll rebound if we just follow one of the primary rules of "Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy" and simply Don't Panic. So there's really no use making them unspendable because such a thing can do worse damage than simply allowing the sale to go through.
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