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March 02, 2012, 04:48:51 PM
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We just received another 12K BTC. It looks like the guy is dumping his collection on www.coinexchanger.com


If thats the case, you do know you are in clear violation of AML right?

He claims that Bitcoins are valueless (he terms it "monopoly money") and says because it has no value, it isn't regulated.

If I wasn't such an upstanding guy, I'd write a letter to FinCEN myself on this prick/coward.

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March 02, 2012, 05:10:29 PM
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We will keep the fees until all deposits and withdrawals are cleared and processed. Shakaru, what are you talking about? Please point to the agency that regulates bitcoin. Otherwise, you do not know what you are talking about. Is bitcoin a currency? Is it money? What is it??

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March 02, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
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We will keep the fees until all deposits and withdrawals are cleared and processed. Shakaru, what are you talking about? Please point to the agency that regulates bitcoin. Otherwise, you do not know what you are talking about. Is bitcoin a currency? Is it money? What is it??

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

Bitcoin is a stored value. Your ignorance is not an excuse to breaking the law.

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March 02, 2012, 05:23:11 PM
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March 02, 2012, 05:34:38 PM
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Someone should tell Mt Gox they don't have to worry about those silly laws anymore.

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March 02, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
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We will keep the fees until all deposits and withdrawals are cleared and processed. Shakaru, what are you talking about? Please point to the agency that regulates bitcoin. Otherwise, you do not know what you are talking about. Is bitcoin a currency? Is it money? What is it??

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

Bitcoin is a stored value. Your ignorance is not an excuse to breaking the law.

Specifically:

While FinCEN was already developing regulatory proposals in this area, the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act of 2009 required the issuance of regulations in final form implementing the BSA, regarding the sale, issuance, redemption, or international transport of stored value, including stored value cards. FinCEN defined prepaid access and included new regulatory requirements in July 2011, expanding beyond the previous framework for certain products known as "stored value."

Also:

 \12\ The Final Rule defines ``prepaid access'' as access to
funds or the value of funds that have been paid in advance and can
be retrieved or transferred at some point in the future through an
electronic device or vehicle, such as a card, code, electronic
serial number, mobile identification number, or personal
identification number. 31 CFR 1010.100(ww). The Final Rule replaces
the term ``stored value'' with ``prepaid access.''

Further:

Leo, as Matthew said, ignorance of the law does not keep it from applying to you. You are making a huge mistake in believing that the lack of definition for what Bitcoin is protects you. In fact, Bitcoin as a stored value is very well defined under finCEN. Now, being that you are a fixed exchange, you may believe that you're free from MSB guidelines as well, but since you hold customer funds in a wallet, and allow for anonymous transactions of stored value (specifically, electronic serial number), you are in violation of multiple federal laws.

I find it hard to believe that nobody's reported you to finCEN yet. In fact, I'm certain that they have. However, upon inspection I'm sure that any investigation would conclude that you have no customers, and that you aren't worth their trouble right now. If that changes in the future, for instance if you were to receive a large deposit of 20k + 12k, (strangely close to the amount stolen yesterday, and currently part of a Federal Investigation initiated by Linode), no doubt you'd be a prime target for investigation and seizure.

Leo, if you're telling the truth about the 20k and 12k coins, you're going to find yourself at a massive loss since you will not be able to sell those coins on any exchange. If you have in fact paid out any amount of LR for the coins you say you've received, you've very likely fucked yourself very VERY badly.

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March 02, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
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We will keep the fees until all deposits and withdrawals are cleared and processed. Shakaru, what are you talking about? Please point to the agency that regulates bitcoin. Otherwise, you do not know what you are talking about. Is bitcoin a currency? Is it money? What is it??

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

Gave you a pretty good link back there. Also, you Buy and Sell bitcoin. Are you telling me you do not do this for currency? Can one not deposit funds into your exchange to buy these? So in answer to your questions, the agencies you requested to know about are the SEC, IRS, Homeland Security and lets toss your local state controller onto that list.

Secondly. Where is the proof of the deposit?

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March 02, 2012, 05:51:51 PM
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There is no proof of deposit to display because there is no deposit to discuss. This is utterly transparent shilling for his own service, which anyone with an IQ in double digits can see is a piss poor imitation of an exchange. Nine percent fees? Why not just require everyone to bend over when they use your service so you can be honest about back-raping them? That's right! Nobody uses your joke of a service. 32,000 in round numbers worth of deposits in less than a day, which you are alleging comes from theft, and instead of discussing doing anything about the theft you are proudly taking shots at the victims of the theft to pimp your own service.

You are nothing but a cheap pimp, with nothing to sell the world. Shut the fuck up and die.

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March 02, 2012, 05:52:54 PM
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So, some time between 12:57pm and 4:12pm today someone deposited 12k BTC with you? That should be pretty easy to verify.
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March 02, 2012, 05:54:01 PM
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We just received another 12K BTC. It looks like the guy is dumping his collection on www.coinexchanger.com


Block 169381 address 12F1GhUbVJvNW6ki1fRG1ZgeTkm2FixLLi

If that's you, Leo, you're holding stolen coins.

http://blockchain.info/address/0d9e2cd87cef275505cd1a831a8fdf86cd2ff571

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March 02, 2012, 05:56:04 PM
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Shut the fuck up and die.

If I were gay, I'd do you. But since I'm not, let's just be friends.

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March 02, 2012, 06:13:48 PM
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Shut the fuck up and die.

If I were gay, I'd do you. But since I'm not, let's just be friends.

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March 02, 2012, 10:59:44 PM
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We just received another 12K BTC. It looks like the guy is dumping his collection on www.coinexchanger.com


Block 169381 address 12F1GhUbVJvNW6ki1fRG1ZgeTkm2FixLLi

If that's you, Leo, you're holding stolen coins.

http://blockchain.info/address/0d9e2cd87cef275505cd1a831a8fdf86cd2ff571

That looks right my friend. I will hold on to the funds until someone claims them. 30 days, after that im sending some to CryptoXchange, some to Gox and some to the TOR network.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com
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March 02, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
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We just received another 12K BTC. It looks like the guy is dumping his collection on www.coinexchanger.com


Block 169381 address 12F1GhUbVJvNW6ki1fRG1ZgeTkm2FixLLi

If that's you, Leo, you're holding stolen coins.

http://blockchain.info/address/0d9e2cd87cef275505cd1a831a8fdf86cd2ff571

That looks right my friend. I will hold on to the funds until someone claims them. 30 days, after that im sending some to CryptoXchange, some to Gox and some to the TOR network.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

So now your going to steal them too?

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March 02, 2012, 11:14:42 PM
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Obviously, if this retard did get business from the hacker, it's because he knew this scummy fuck would be the least professional and just fork over the dough. If anything, this should be a very easy sign for everyone never to use his site.

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March 02, 2012, 11:16:21 PM
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We just received another 12K BTC. It looks like the guy is dumping his collection on www.coinexchanger.com


Block 169381 address 12F1GhUbVJvNW6ki1fRG1ZgeTkm2FixLLi

If that's you, Leo, you're holding stolen coins.

http://blockchain.info/address/0d9e2cd87cef275505cd1a831a8fdf86cd2ff571

That looks right my friend. I will hold on to the funds until someone claims them. 30 days, after that im sending some to CryptoXchange, some to Gox and some to the TOR network.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

So now your going to steal them too?

I paid for those 12K coins already. They are mine to do as I please.

Fincen does not regulate bitcoin. Nor any agency will investigate on the missing coins because lost bitcoins does not mean anything to anybody except for the person who lost them.
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March 02, 2012, 11:17:36 PM
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We just received another 12K BTC. It looks like the guy is dumping his collection on www.coinexchanger.com


Block 169381 address 12F1GhUbVJvNW6ki1fRG1ZgeTkm2FixLLi

If that's you, Leo, you're holding stolen coins.

http://blockchain.info/address/0d9e2cd87cef275505cd1a831a8fdf86cd2ff571

That looks right my friend. I will hold on to the funds until someone claims them. 30 days, after that im sending some to CryptoXchange, some to Gox and some to the TOR network.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

So now your going to steal them too?

I paid for those 12K coins already. They are mine to do as I please.

Fincen does not regulate bitcoin. Nor any agency will investigate on the missing coins because lost bitcoins does not mean anything to anybody except for the person who lost them.

Witnessed.


Anyone who has a problem with this outrageousness, please write separate letters to FinCEN and feel free to visit Mr. Camilo and express your concerns.


Leo Camilo        (atqcapital@gmail.com)
    440 9th ave
    new york
    New York,10001
    US
    Tel. +1.3474691040

This establishment connected to CoinExchanger.com (an illegally run money services business without an MSB license) is the address for Uncle Jacks Restaurant.

You can contact the main line and confirm Leo Camilo's position there by phone at: (212) 244-0005

You'll probably find him working in the back as a busboy or in the kitchen washing dishes I'm sure.



I'm sure his pride in accepting stolen bitcoins and operating an illegal exchange registered to this address should be made clear after confirming he works there regularly. It is something all his customers at the restaurant should be made aware of I believe. If he doesn't think bitcoins are anything more than monopoly money, maybe he also thinks that using dangerous ingredients is alright too? Crazy people do crazy things...


Uncle Jack's Steakhouse - Westside 9th Avenue Details
Dining Style: Casual Elegant
Website: http://www.unclejacks.com
Email: info@unclejacks.com
Phone: (212) 244-0005
Hours of Operation: Lunch: Monday - Friday: 11:30am - 4:00pm; Dinner: Sunday - Wednesday: 4:00pm - 11:00pm. Thursday - Saturday: 4:00pm - 12:00am
Cross Street: 34th Street
Public Transit: Penn Station and 1, 2, 3, A, C, E subways within two blocks. Walking distance to Port Authority bus depot and B, D, F, M, N, Q, R subways. Local bus lines.
Parking: Public Lot
Parking Details: Parking lots and garages within 1 block.
Payment Options: AMEX, JCB, MasterCard, Visa
Cuisine: Steak, Seafood, American
Executive Chef: William Jack Degel
Dress Code: Business Casual
Accepts Walk-Ins: Yes
Additional Details: Banquet/Private Rooms, Bar Dining, Bar/Lounge, Beer, Fireplace, Full Bar, Gluten-free Menu, Happy Hour, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Private Room, Takeout, Wheelchair Access, Wine
Catering: Please email Muhammed@unclejacks.com for private party and catering info.
Special Events & Promotions: Also a 'Kids Under 12' meal for $29.95. Manhattan locations only. Uncle Jack’s is now proud to offer all inclusive, 3-course Prix-fixe lunch. Just $24.95. Ask your server or bartender for details. Tuesdays: all wines on our list are half price for Lifestyle members. If you aren’t a member, you can become one in an instant. Thursdays: Two-For-One Happy Hours from 3-8 PM at the bar for EVERYONE!!! (some exclusions may apply)




Sounds like the kind of scammy shit Leo would pull on his customers. "Hey this gold locket isn't really valuable, it's just a monopoly necklace! It's mine now because a lost necklace and tickets is only worth something to the person who lost them!"

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March 03, 2012, 12:14:51 AM
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I am almost sure that bitcoinica.com is out of funds and they are keeping the site open to get more deposits and ponzi those deposits on those who want to withdrawal. The 17 year old just lost 250,000 Dollars and I doubt he has an extra 250K to cover his loss.

I would encourage everyone to withdrawal your funds from bitcoinica and watch the shit hit the fan.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

We will lower our withdrawal fee in the next couple of days, in the meantime 9% is fair.

CoinExchanger.com is an admittedly unregistered MLB (money license business) that must be registered by FinCEN within 6 months of opening their doors and sharing their first stored value. They have not done so and are in direct violation of federal law.

The owner of CoinExchanger.com is Leo Camilo, who advertises his address as 440 9th ave, New york, New York,10001 US and personal telephone number 1 (347) 469-1040.

His private email (search google) is atqcapital@gmail.com.

He has publicly stated on multiple occasions that:

  • bitcoin is fake money, "monopoly money" and has no value and should not be trusted for this reason.
  • his exchange is functional with a large user base, when not a single user has ever reportedly done business with him
  • he is holding coins stolen from Zhou Tong's Bitcoinica and says "fuck you Zhou, you're just a stupid 17 year old kid, these coins are mine now" basically.

He also:

  • goes under the sock puppet scammer account name "Maria"
  • claims to be a millionaire and restaurant owner

He is currently in possession of stolen Bitcoins from the Linode hack and any coins purchased from him will not be accepted by MtGox or anyone in the Bitcoin community.


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Didn't know you could not accept coins.
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