Greenaddress uses deceptive buissness practices, could cost users millions.

[FrozenBit]

To much English for my brain.

So is this Topic against Greenaddress.it or against FrozenBit. I used Greenaddress.it since start and never had a problem. The Support answers very fast and the best it is OpenSource.

To FrozenBit, please be neutral if you want to be successful you need to be more business like and not to write "bad thinks" about a other Company. We also don't know who you are, No Address no Name .... . A good Wallet need a reliable Person behind.

[GreenAddressit Limited - Vincenti Buildings 28/19 (Suite No. 1405), Strait Street
VLT1432 Valletta, Malta, VAT: MT21552512]

 Please visit our site for information on us, thanks.

http://frozenbit.io/contact


 Our twitter links to everyone who's actively behind the project.

Yasmine
Cole
Calvin
and Jamie

Hi, thanks for you reply, I don't really want to trust a US Company USA PATRIOT Act

To much English for my brain.

So is this Topic against Greenaddress.it or against FrozenBit. I used FrozenBit since start and never had a problem. The Support answers very fast and the best it is OpenSource.

To Greenaddress, please be neutral if you want to be successful you need to be more business like and not to write "bad thinks" about a other Company. We also don't know who you are, No Address no Name .... . A good Wallet need a reliable Person behind.

Who is this?v

[GreenAddressit Limited - Vincenti Buildings 28/19 (Suite No. 1405), Strait Street
VLT1432 Valletta, Malta, VAT: MT21552512]

This topic is about how Greenaddress is less than truthful with their business practices m8.

 It really looks like greenaddress aka tryexecpt is trying to point blame on this frozenbit guy. I have never heard of them before now actually, who knows. They're trying to cover their ass.


 That is a huge red flag, really this tryexecpt (Lawrence) guy is sketchy as hell. It looks like marco is his shill aswell.

Also thank you for the reply, but the business practices from FB (FrozenBit [OMG FaceBook ;-)] are not better

They need update their Website, they are not the first Multi-Sig Wallet.

I would give FB a chance, and also Greenaddress.it. I don't know what happened I really don't have enough time *, but everyone can do a mistake, the good think is every mistake can be corrected.

*Building a Encrypted Cloud, I need help please PM

 Send me an email at calvin@frozenbit.io

 I'll help you out with your cloud. Free.

[tryexcept]

byteberry, don't waste your time

1) frozenbit.io and frozenb.it are both registered using HIDDEN whois information (the latter registered via http://www.netim.com/)

2) frozenbit.io is on a server in germany, IP 85.25.43.36, you can check via this http://www.crimeflare.com for frozenbit.io

3) check it: indeed the server has frozenbit.io answering , just try it: wget --header="Host: frozenbit.io" 85.25.43.36

4) they run LOTS of services there! https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/85.25.43.36/information/

frozenbit.io
crackinghome.com
fane.co
redemptioncraft.org
scriptznull.info

And these too!!

2014-06-13 allverdantgroup.tk
2014-05-04 anoncloud.pw
2014-06-03 arqel.com
2014-04-11 barclayaks.com
2014-05-11 cablemars.com
2014-03-18 edesonspy.tk
2014-05-08 l-comus.com
2014-06-13 sevdalinka.info
2014-06-04 shineopulencelimited.com
2014-03-23 so-like.net


5) they have 8000 followers on twitter but no code to show and no way to register a new account on their site

6) no surnames

7) FUD & SCAM

alarming number of open ports on their server:

20/tcp  closed ftp-data
21/tcp  open   ftp
22/tcp  open   ssh
25/tcp  open   smtp
53/tcp  open   domain
80/tcp  open   http
110/tcp open   pop3
143/tcp open   imap
443/tcp open   https
465/tcp open   smtps
587/tcp open   submission
993/tcp open   imaps
995/tcp open   pop3s


so, Calvin and all the others, now you can disappear please?

[byteberry]

byteberry, don't waste your time

1) frozenbit.io and frozenb.it are both registered using HIDDEN whois information (the latter registered via http://www.netim.com/)

2) frozenbit.io is on a server in germany, IP 85.25.43.36, you can check via this http://www.crimeflare.com for frozenbit.io

3) check it: indeed the server has frozenbit.io answering , just try it: wget --header="Host: frozenbit.io" 85.25.43.36

4) they run LOTS of services there! https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/85.25.43.36/information/

frozenbit.io
crackinghome.com
fane.co
redemptioncraft.org
scriptznull.info

And these too!!

2014-06-13 [Suspicious link removed]
2014-05-04 anoncloud.pw
2014-06-03 arqel.com
2014-04-11 barclayaks.com
2014-05-11 cablemars.com
2014-03-18 [Suspicious link removed]
2014-05-08 l-comus.com
2014-06-13 sevdalinka.info
2014-06-04 shineopulencelimited.com
2014-03-23 so-like.net


5) they have 8000 followers on twitter but no code to show and no way to register a new account on their site

6) no surnames

7) FUD & SCAM

alarming number of open ports on their server:

20/tcp  closed ftp-data
21/tcp  open   ftp
22/tcp  open   ssh
25/tcp  open   smtp
53/tcp  open   domain
80/tcp  open   http
110/tcp open   pop3
143/tcp open   imap
443/tcp open   https
465/tcp open   smtps
587/tcp open   submission
993/tcp open   imaps
995/tcp open   pop3s


so, Calvin and all the others, now you can disappear please?

Based on your Information is FrozenBit a WebSite with German IP, the owner of this IP is Intergenia Ag, it is the Mother Company of many German low budget WebHoster (Web Space PHP MySql)

It is a shared Server, that is the reason for so much Websites at one IP

Off Topic :

I buyed Servers from 5hosting with 5IP's (I think this is enough). Now I only need a good Domain Name. And than I am on the way to my Server Cluster to get the Master Key and for only a few Euros they manage my Server Cluster 

[tryexcept]

It is a shared Server, that is the reason for so much Websites at one IP

Entirely possible.

I forgot to add in my previous comment: this can be either incompetence (using a shared server but perhaps they don't own the other services) or malice (they own the other services too).

Either way, not the way to run any bitcoin service IMHO and given the twitter 8k followers I have many doubts regarding their business practices.

[byteberry]

It is a shared Server, that is the reason for so much Websites at one IP

Entirely possible.

I forgot to add in my previous comment: this can be either incompetence (using a shared server but perhaps they don't own the other services) or malice (they own the other services too).

Either way, not the way to run any bitcoin service IMHO and given the twitter 8k followers I have many doubts regarding their business practices.

The best is for only 10Euro they could get their own IP, but with a low budget you get only low budget Server

[henrydavidharris]

It is a shared Server, that is the reason for so much Websites at one IP

Entirely possible.

I forgot to add in my previous comment: this can be either incompetence (using a shared server but perhaps they don't own the other services) or malice (they own the other services too).

Either way, not the way to run any bitcoin service IMHO and given the twitter 8k followers I have many doubts regarding their business practices.

The best is for only 10Euro they could get their own IP, but with a low budget you get only low budget Server

 WARNING, I've seen this guy point all of his sites issues on frozenbit. Jesus m8 can you not fix the issues you have with your own site?


 This tryexcept guy is running a scam, Idc if you listen to me or not. The tide will come in eventually.



 Besides this, good luck with both of your services. If it's like it described it'll work. You'll always have haters and trolls. and m8 that's what this tryexcept guy is.


EDIT: Greenaddress really needs to get a new server and fix their app. They talk pretty large but not a single fix has been rolled out. It seems greenaddress is on a 10$ server aswell. I didn't bother looking any of it up but http://who.is/whois/greenaddress.it

 

Hidden who is just like that guy claimed..



 Greenaddress is indeed sketchy.

[byteberry]

It is a shared Server, that is the reason for so much Websites at one IP

Entirely possible.

I forgot to add in my previous comment: this can be either incompetence (using a shared server but perhaps they don't own the other services) or malice (they own the other services too).

Either way, not the way to run any bitcoin service IMHO and given the twitter 8k followers I have many doubts regarding their business practices.

The best is for only 10Euro they could get their own IP, but with a low budget you get only low budget Server

 WARNING, I've seen this guy point all of his sites issues on frozenbit. Jesus m8 can you not fix the issues you have with your own site?


 This tryexcept guy is running a scam, Idc if you listen to me or not. The tide will come in eventually.



 Besides this, good luck with both of your services. If it's like it described it'll work. You'll always have haters and trolls. and m8 that's what this tryexcept guy is.


EDIT: Greenaddress really needs to get a new server and fix their app. They talk pretty large but not a single fix has been rolled out. It seems greenaddress is on a 10$ server aswell. I didn't bother looking any of it up but http://who.is/whois/greenaddress.it

 

Hidden who is just like that guy claimed..



 Greenaddress is indeed sketchy.

There is no Information about their Server, the IP is from CloudFlare. The 10 dollar you saw is a suggestion for a similar Domain Name.

I use their App, and I really don't have any problem. The Speed is also fantastic

[tryexcept]

Usually we get told off for the app speed but it is true we worked on improving it a lot lately. 

Still a bit of work to do to smooth the UX though.

Anyway, good to hear! thanks for the compliment!

[henrydavidharris]

It is a shared Server, that is the reason for so much Websites at one IP

Entirely possible.

I forgot to add in my previous comment: this can be either incompetence (using a shared server but perhaps they don't own the other services) or malice (they own the other services too).

Either way, not the way to run any bitcoin service IMHO and given the twitter 8k followers I have many doubts regarding their business practices.

The best is for only 10Euro they could get their own IP, but with a low budget you get only low budget Server

 WARNING, I've seen this guy point all of his sites issues on frozenbit. Jesus m8 can you not fix the issues you have with your own site?


 This tryexcept guy is running a scam, Idc if you listen to me or not. The tide will come in eventually.



 Besides this, good luck with both of your services. If it's like it described it'll work. You'll always have haters and trolls. and m8 that's what this tryexcept guy is.


EDIT: Greenaddress really needs to get a new server and fix their app. They talk pretty large but not a single fix has been rolled out. It seems greenaddress is on a 10$ server aswell. I didn't bother looking any of it up but http://who.is/whois/greenaddress.it

 

Hidden who is just like that guy claimed..



 Greenaddress is indeed sketchy.

There is no Information about their Server, the IP is from CloudFlare. The 10 dollar you saw is a suggestion for a similar Domain Name.

I use their App, and I really don't have any problem. The Speed is also fantastic

 From what I've seen from this tryexcept clown I've pulled my coins out.  

 I cannot use this service knowing this clown is running, or affiliated with it.

 He's wearing a red shirt for sure m8, tread lightly.

[FrozenBit]

It is a shared Server, that is the reason for so much Websites at one IP

Entirely possible.

I forgot to add in my previous comment: this can be either incompetence (using a shared server but perhaps they don't own the other services) or malice (they own the other services too).

Either way, not the way to run any bitcoin service IMHO and given the twitter 8k followers I have many doubts regarding their business practices.

The best is for only 10Euro they could get their own IP, but with a low budget you get only low budget Server

 WARNING, I've seen this guy point all of his sites issues on frozenbit. Jesus m8 can you not fix the issues you have with your own site?


 This tryexcept guy is running a scam, Idc if you listen to me or not. The tide will come in eventually.



 Besides this, good luck with both of your services. If it's like it described it'll work. You'll always have haters and trolls. and m8 that's what this tryexcept guy is.


EDIT: Greenaddress really needs to get a new server and fix their app. They talk pretty large but not a single fix has been rolled out. It seems greenaddress is on a 10$ server aswell. I didn't bother looking any of it up but http://who.is/whois/greenaddress.it

 

Hidden who is just like that guy claimed..



 Greenaddress is indeed sketchy.

There is no Information about their Server, the IP is from CloudFlare. The 10 dollar you saw is a suggestion for a similar Domain Name.

I use their App, and I really don't have any problem. The Speed is also fantastic

 From what I've seen from this tryexcept clown I've pulled my coins out.  

 I cannot use this service knowing this clown is running, or affiliated with it.

 He's wearing a red shirt for sure m8, tread lightly.

 Yeah less than professional. I couldn't see a reason why anyone would trust this guy.

[byteberry]

I see that this is a endless discussion.

Every Wallet has a negative and a positive site, nothing is perfect. And why we all discus and compare two total different Wallet's also FB is not now Open Source and there is no working Version out not even TestNet.

So I think we need to stop and Close this Topic.

To Greenaddress.it fix you little bugs

To FrozenBit first be ready and than write and compare.

PS: I really love Greenaddress.it,.this is one of the best Wallet, I use it as my Main "Shopping" Wallet

PPS: FrozenBit please change your Homepage, you are not the first Multi Signature Wallet, that is not very trustfully

PPPS: FrozenBit your Website is down, that is not good for a Wallet. If you tell me what you for your Homepage I could rent you one my Server

[tryexcept]

All the bugs we were aware of have been fixed.

Update for iOS app currently pending at the apple store but an updated and fixed version is available at https://rink.hockeyapp.net/recruit/f243ae313c3d46aab67951e76b63447b if people want to try the latest.

I agree with your sentiment byteberry, this conversation can be closed as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers!

[byteberry]

FrozenBit thanks for updating the Website, but now it a bigger catastrophe than before. FrozenBit is not the only Multiplatform and Multi Signature Website

[Marlo Stanfield]

For anyone not following along here the account "henrydavidharris" is just a shill account by FrozenBit. As is "c5h3ris1253". And very likely user "Vintage" as well. And I'm sure there are more.

If it's even possible that there is someone who couldn't see right through that.

[Vintage]

For anyone not following along here the account "henrydavidharris" is just a shill account by FrozenBit. As is "c5h3ris1253". And very likely user "Vintage" as well. And I'm sure there are more.

If it's even possible that there is someone who couldn't see right through that.

I'm no shrill, I'm very real.

[dave111223]