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July 07, 2014, 08:53:25 AM
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I thought Abe Lincoln said that ...

No, he said "anything is a dildo if you're brave enough."  Smiley
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July 07, 2014, 02:11:38 PM
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The simple explanation is someone is spewing bullshit in hopes of driving the price up.

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July 07, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
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I thought Abe Lincoln said that ...

No, he said "anything is a dildo if you're brave enough."  Smiley

ROFL

I got a whole new respect for Abe.

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July 08, 2014, 03:27:46 AM
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I thought Abe Lincoln said that ...

No, he said "anything is a dildo if you're brave enough."  Smiley

ROFL

I got a whole new respect for Abe.

LOL!

But horseshit.

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July 09, 2014, 06:09:05 AM
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Any sources where do this info comes from?
900 is too good to be true
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July 09, 2014, 07:46:21 AM
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Any sources where do this info comes from?
900 is too good to be true
Again, for those that are too lazy to read the thread:
Are you talking about the OP?  Obviously the OP is just a steaming pile of trollshit.

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July 09, 2014, 07:51:49 AM
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Since they were sold in segments perhaps some of the coins went for $900 and the rest below?  If somebody bid $900 per coin on one of the 3000 coin wallets...
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July 09, 2014, 08:30:40 AM
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Since they were sold in segments perhaps some of the coins went for $900 and the rest below?  If somebody bid $900 per coin on one of the 3000 coin wallets...
One person bought all the coins.  He paid the same price for all of them.

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July 09, 2014, 09:08:56 AM
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Since they were sold in segments perhaps some of the coins went for $900 and the rest below?  If somebody bid $900 per coin on one of the 3000 coin wallets...
One person bought all the coins.  He paid the same price for all of them.

How do we know that?

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July 09, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
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Since they were sold in segments perhaps some of the coins went for $900 and the rest below?  If somebody bid $900 per coin on one of the 3000 coin wallets...
One person bought all the coins.  He paid the same price for all of them.

How do we know that?

We know that one person bought all the coins.
I don't think we know that he paid the same price for all of them.

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July 09, 2014, 01:33:47 PM
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Since they were sold in segments perhaps some of the coins went for $900 and the rest below?  If somebody bid $900 per coin on one of the 3000 coin wallets...
One person bought all the coins.  He paid the same price for all of them.

How do we know that?

We know that one person bought all the coins.
I don't think we know that he paid the same price for all of them.
Yes, I admit I made the assumption that he only put up one bid for all the lots because then he would have only had to come up with $200,000 for the deposit.  That made the most sense to me:  one bid for all the lots = $200,000 in deposits.  This assumption was driven by my own feelings that a $200,000 deposit is "a lot of money".  

However, it is true that on the other end of the spectrum he could have put up 10 bids, each for only one lot and all at different prices.  In this case he would have had to put up $2,000,000 for the bid deposits.  But this would also be a very rational bidding strategy even though in hindsight he ended up "bidding against himself".  And thinking about it even more this is more probably what he did because then he could be almost assured of winning at least one lot.

So, you are correct, we do not know he paid the same price for all of them, it is very likely he paid different prices for the lots, and we only know he bought them all.

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July 09, 2014, 01:39:20 PM
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Solid lead?   Believe it or not...  Shocked

1 - Pantera - $900
2 - SecondMarket - $750
3 - SecondMarket - $700
4 - DRW Trading Group - $700
5 - Coinbase - $685
6 - Rangeley Capital - $660
7 - SecondMarket - $651
8 - Coinbase - $640
9 - Matrix Capital Management - $601

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ya thats BS.
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July 09, 2014, 01:43:10 PM
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It's a blind auction, and only 1 bid allowed.  Just make your bid and hope for the best. 

There is no transparency like eBay,
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wait wait so if it's a one bid only thing people would just bid 900 hoping to win. btw is this by pop price or a total, in both cases it looks too bogus

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July 09, 2014, 01:45:33 PM
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..only 1 bid allowed.  Just make your bid and hope for the best. 
Lie.  You could bid as many times as you wanted and could afford.  Each bid at a different price just required a separate $200,000 bid deposit.

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July 14, 2014, 09:27:40 AM
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"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!" - Thomas Jefferson

"The question is, what is the question?" - Douglas Noel Adams  Wink

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July 14, 2014, 09:50:56 AM
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"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!" - Thomas Jefferson

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July 14, 2014, 10:24:40 AM
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Since they were sold in segments perhaps some of the coins went for $900 and the rest below?  If somebody bid $900 per coin on one of the 3000 coin wallets...
One person bought all the coins.  He paid the same price for all of them.

How do we know that?

We know that one person bought all the coins.
I don't think we know that he paid the same price for all of them.
Yes, I admit I made the assumption that he only put up one bid for all the lots because then he would have only had to come up with $200,000 for the deposit.  That made the most sense to me:  one bid for all the lots = $200,000 in deposits.  This assumption was driven by my own feelings that a $200,000 deposit is "a lot of money".  

However, it is true that on the other end of the spectrum he could have put up 10 bids, each for only one lot and all at different prices.  In this case he would have had to put up $2,000,000 for the bid deposits.  But this would also be a very rational bidding strategy even though in hindsight he ended up "bidding against himself".  And thinking about it even more this is more probably what he did because then he could be almost assured of winning at least one lot.

So, you are correct, we do not know he paid the same price for all of them, it is very likely he paid different prices for the lots, and we only know he bought them all.
Don't we also know he paid one price for all of them because the auction description stated that everyone would pay at the same rate as the lowest winning bid (leading someone to claim it was a dutch auction even though that wasn't entirely accurate)?  I thought I read that in an official document, and it would imply that he paid one price even if he made multiple winning bids.
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July 14, 2014, 02:11:43 PM
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Don't we also know he paid one price for all of them because the auction description stated that everyone would pay at the same rate as the lowest winning bid (leading someone to claim it was a dutch auction even though that wasn't entirely accurate)?  I thought I read that in an official document, and it would imply that he paid one price even if he made multiple winning bids.
No, it did not say that at all.  The document stated that the highest bidder would take as many lots as they bid for, then the next highest bidder would take the number they bid for or the lots left whichever was less - if there were any left, etc.  Straight up highest bidder auction right down the line.

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July 16, 2014, 02:10:52 PM
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Well guys! Finally what price do you think that Tom offered on the Auction?

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July 16, 2014, 02:19:21 PM
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I am still waiting for my FOIA request to be processed.  It has not been accepted but then again it has not been rejected either.

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