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March 03, 2012, 02:41:45 AM
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thanks for speaking out about this Matt, I agree with you completely.

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March 03, 2012, 05:05:38 AM
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Matt, are you serious about this? I’ve seen some of your research before and have to admit that you're usually spot-on but this is a pretty big accusation. 

I’d like to think you’re trolling for fun but this isn’t your usual style of troll (maybe I just don’t want to believe you're right).


I feel that what I currently have him researching may shed some more light on this subject.

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March 03, 2012, 05:20:16 AM
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Following this thread.

Giving away your BTC's? Send 'em here: 1F7XgercyaXeDHiuq31YzrVK5YAhbDkJhf
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March 03, 2012, 05:52:20 AM
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Matt, are you serious about this? I’ve seen some of your research before and have to admit that you're usually spot-on but this is a pretty big accusation. 

I’d like to think you’re trolling for fun but this isn’t your usual style of troll (maybe I just don’t want to believe you're right).


I feel that what I currently have him researching may shed some more light on this subject.

~Bruno~


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Do you play chess? if so, visit www.chesscoin.com

We can chat via skype: coinexchanger
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March 03, 2012, 06:25:12 AM
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Lets just solve this like done in the other post.

Coinexchange, would  you please, in a yes or no manor state your answer to the following statements

Statement A: You in fact are bitcoin address 12F1GhUbVJvNW6ki1fRG1ZgeTkm2FixLLi and/or have access to that address in regards to the bitcoin in it.

Statement B: You currently in possession and/or have access to the coins sent to 12F1GhUbVJvNW6ki1fRG1ZgeTkm2FixLLi due to the security breach, and knowingly continue to hold onto them.

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March 03, 2012, 07:58:41 AM
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no bitcoin in it anymore....

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March 03, 2012, 09:33:32 AM
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watching...

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March 03, 2012, 11:33:52 AM
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If I were a criminal and I stole a massive amount of BTC the first thing I'd do is to taint a few appropriate scapegoats.

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March 03, 2012, 12:36:41 PM
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If I were a criminal and I stole a massive amount of BTC the first thing I'd do is to taint a few appropriate scapegoats.

And then immediately get on the forum and start yelling about how we can't ban stolen coins, etc etc.

If those 'scapegoats' had random coins show up in their wallets, I am pretty sure that if they were honest they would have no problems returning them.
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March 03, 2012, 01:20:32 PM
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If I were a criminal and I stole a massive amount of BTC the first thing I'd do is to taint a few appropriate scapegoats.

And then immediately get on the forum and start yelling about how we can't ban stolen coins, etc etc.

If those 'scapegoats' had random coins show up in their wallets, I am pretty sure that if they were honest they would have no problems returning them.

Right. If you are not a criminal why do you want anonymity? why can't I read your email? why do you want anonymous transactions? etc etc FBI school of thought.

Are we going that way?

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March 03, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
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If I were a criminal and I stole a massive amount of BTC the first thing I'd do is to taint a few appropriate scapegoats.

And then immediately get on the forum and start yelling about how we can't ban stolen coins, etc etc.

If those 'scapegoats' had random coins show up in their wallets, I am pretty sure that if they were honest they would have no problems returning them.

Right. If you are not a criminal why do you want anonymity? why can't I read your email? why do you want anonymous transactions? etc etc FBI school of thought.

Are we going that way?

If people want to have anonymous banking or anonymous exchanging then the broker or bank has to remain anonymous.  That is just how it has to happen.  The liability and regulation by the governments is not on the customer of the bank, that regulation is on the bank or exchange operators.

Of coure the risks involved in dealing with an anonymous exchange or bank  is greater than with regulated banks.  I personally believe all business need to adequately state the risks involved in associating with the business, whether it is an anonymous exchange or MtGox.

Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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March 03, 2012, 07:57:27 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67204

Need your input guys.

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March 04, 2012, 12:22:43 AM
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I'd rather have BitScalper and CoinTumbler than coercive regulation of Bitcoin businesses. Bitcoin is information, and policing information is the fastest way to kill Bitcoin.  Smiley  Tongue

Nice spin there buddy. Let's straighten it back out. All exchanges are already registered, except one, who calls Bitcoins monopoly money and says that he has the stolen coins. MtGox, CryptoXChange, Intersango, they've all gone through the steps necessary and required of them by their legal operating countries in order to be legal and provide a legal service. CoinExchanger ignores these responsibilities under the guise of providing anonymity (except everything they claim is always a lie or completely unprovable).

I agree with Kluge.

Matthew, I don't need you protecting me from "scummy fucks". If you're going to accuse people of wrongdoing, don't use ad hominem - It makes your indignation look like a show.
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March 04, 2012, 12:26:36 AM
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I'd rather have BitScalper and CoinTumbler than coercive regulation of Bitcoin businesses. Bitcoin is information, and policing information is the fastest way to kill Bitcoin.  Smiley  Tongue

Nice spin there buddy. Let's straighten it back out. All exchanges are already registered, except one, who calls Bitcoins monopoly money and says that he has the stolen coins. MtGox, CryptoXChange, Intersango, they've all gone through the steps necessary and required of them by their legal operating countries in order to be legal and provide a legal service. CoinExchanger ignores these responsibilities under the guise of providing anonymity (except everything they claim is always a lie or completely unprovable).

I agree with Kluge.

Matthew, I don't need you protecting me from "scummy fucks". If you're going to accuse people of wrongdoing, don't use ad hominem - It makes your indignation look like a show.

Point taken, but comment in the thread linked above. It's become a quite larger topic.

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March 06, 2012, 03:32:04 AM
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Dick Gage is now officially on the case. Let's start with this: http://chesstweets.com/games/307.

Let's see how badly we've been pawned.

~Bruno~
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March 06, 2012, 03:58:12 AM
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uh oh, Phinneaus is back in detective mode again. Grin
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March 06, 2012, 04:10:26 AM
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Dick Gage is now officially on the case. Let's start with this: http://chesstweets.com/games/307.

Let's see how badly we've been pawned.

~Bruno~


I don’t get it. What does that show about CoinExchanger?

According to Dan Kaplan at https://twitter.com/forex4ever, Leo's name is Alfredo (scroll to the bottom of his tweets).

Next, I show Leo as being in Russia, oppose to New York. Stay tuned.


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March 06, 2012, 04:26:08 AM
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Well you're all waiting for more info, perhaps you should read Joe's tweets to Leo Alfredo: https://twitter.com/joeberd

I suggest starting from the bottom and work up. It won't take you long.
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March 06, 2012, 05:49:10 AM
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March 06, 2012, 05:56:48 AM
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