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July 02, 2014, 03:44:57 AM
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You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole.  Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Premise #1: We are here to help the world by finding the best idea for every single aspect of cryptocurrency AND/OR many of us are here to get rich.
Premise #2: If you had an employee at your company leaving comments on your website with racial slurs then you would fire that person immediately without any thought given, unless you were stupid or hated making money.
Conclusion: Users that spout racial slurs, even one time, should be permanently banned from this website and every cryptocurrency website.

This is not an opinion. It is a logical fact about how you run a business. Maybe you didn't notice, but segregation ended a looooong time ago. Now go learn how to run a business and then come back and apologize for being so ignorant about the subject.
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July 02, 2014, 06:48:50 AM
Last edit: July 02, 2014, 07:33:11 AM by eid
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You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole.  Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Or they may see that this forum is run by adults who value freedom of speech; yes, freedom can be offensive at times, but if you value it you don't go running to authorities every time something offends your delicate sensibilities.

I suggest you learn to tolerate stupidity; you're likely going to encounter lots of it in this world.
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July 02, 2014, 07:53:12 AM
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You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole.  Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Or they may see that this forum is run by adults who value freedom of speech; yes, freedom can be offensive at times, but if you value it you don't go running to authorities every time something offends your delicate sensibilities.

I suggest you learn to tolerate stupidity; you're likely going to encounter lots of it in this world.


"If I was trying to make money or get an idea adopted into the mainstream, I would be perfectly okay with my employees and colleagues using racial slurs like "nigger, kike, shitskin" on our website." - Every Dumb Response in This Thread

This has nothing to do with me being offended or not. I get it now. You are not smart enough to understand the repercussions of using the word "nigger" or language in general. You idiots sure are making the Central Banks happy right now. With "bitcoiners" like you, who needs shills?
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July 02, 2014, 07:56:39 AM
Last edit: July 02, 2014, 08:08:11 AM by eid
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You can use the "ignore" feature.
In any case it should not be a mods job to determine what is offensive. If someone is a child-like idiotic raciest then that's their problem, not yours and mine. Let the fools talk and dig themselves into a hole.  Those people don't even count anyway.

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Or they may see that this forum is run by adults who value freedom of speech; yes, freedom can be offensive at times, but if you value it you don't go running to authorities every time something offends your delicate sensibilities.

I suggest you learn to tolerate stupidity; you're likely going to encounter lots of it in this world.


"If I was trying to make money or get an idea adopted into the mainstream, I would be perfectly okay with my employees and colleagues using racial slurs like "nigger, kike, shitskin" on our website." - Every Dumb Response in This Thread

This has nothing to do with me being offended or not. I get it now. You are not smart enough to understand the repercussions of using the word "nigger" or language in general. You idiots sure are making the Central Banks happy right now. With "bitcoiners" like you, who needs shills?

I also suggest you learn to express your ideas without resorting to personal insults.
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July 04, 2014, 03:11:03 PM
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Threats of violence aren't okay, I don't see any though. Being a racist is okay, though posts with strong political commentary of that sort tend to be off topic more often than not, and if it isn't off topic then the thread itself may need to be re-evaluated.

He said that he "knows a very direct way of dealing with [me]. Better yet, send [me] to the Palestinians." How you can percieve that as anything other than a non-idle violent threat is beyond reasoning.

Grow a thicker skin, this is the internet. I am offended that you're offended, where does this madness stop? Cries of bigotry and racism are far too common and used improperly daily. This has watered down the true meaning of these words. I would rather know what a person really thinks than have them hide it behind a smile, that way you can take action such as ignore them or go to another forum. One should be able to say pretty much what they want but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences. They could be ignored and no one will trade with them.
Crying for the censor police at every harsh word is ridiculous and petty.

So you think that calling somebody from the Middle East a "shit skin" isn't racism, and even if it is, it should be fully allowed? I am not misusing the word at all, and you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior on this forum. I pray to god that at least one sane moderator sees this ..... and does something to help keep things peaceful on here. This is exactly the kind of insanity that we don't ever want to associate with cryptocurrency. That is, if you are actually here to support crypto.

This is downright shameful behavior and the responses I am getting are shameful all around.

I've been called far worse. Grow up.

Let me add to this:
"......you are encouraging very uncivilized behavior...."    Offensive, you are calling me uncivilized.

"I pray to god..."  Offensive. You didn't capitalize the G and you mentioned god! What does god have to do with BTC?

"......bullshit..."  Cursing, again offensive!

"....at least one sane moderator...." Offensive. It implies all moderators are insane.

Do you see how this works? It never ends. You need to realize your opinion isn't the only one but you seem to think it trumps all others. You are free to join the myriad of other forums that are PC correct and happily censor all posts.



Trump! Now, I'm offended. That porridge wog eats Pizza, bitcoiner's poster food, with a fork (apologies to slant-eyes who use sticks to eat with).
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July 04, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
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If you browse these forums you'll find a whole sh+tload of comments that could be considered offensive, racist, violent... however I still think freedom of speech is more important than avoiding such offensive comments at all costs (of cause there are constraints which should not be exceeded - for example calls to harm/attack a specific person/group).  It's better to open a discussion on such extreme hateful opinions than simply suppressing them, because otherwise they have no chance of being refuted and the underlying thoughts will still persist with the person expressing them.

This forum also has an ignore-function if you don't want to read all the garbage. Wink

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July 04, 2014, 03:51:40 PM
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If you browse these forums you'll find a whole sh+tload of comments that could be considered offensive, racist, violent... however I still think freedom of speech is more important than avoiding such offensive comments at all costs (of cause there are constraints which should not be exceeded - for example calls to harm/attack a specific person/group).  It's better to open a discussion on such extreme hateful opinions than simply suppressing them, because otherwise they have no chance of being refuted and the underlying thoughts will still persist with the person expressing them.

This forum also has an ignore-function if you don't want to read all the garbage. Wink

ya.ya.yo!

IMHO, it is very hard to draw a line between "offensive" and "non-offensive" as everyone has a different tolerance level, and we will need 10x more mods to handle those "offensive post" reports.

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July 04, 2014, 07:14:50 PM
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If you browse these forums you'll find a whole sh+tload of comments that could be considered offensive, racist, violent... however I still think freedom of speech is more important than avoiding such offensive comments at all costs (of cause there are constraints which should not be exceeded - for example calls to harm/attack a specific person/group).  It's better to open a discussion on such extreme hateful opinions than simply suppressing them, because otherwise they have no chance of being refuted and the underlying thoughts will still persist with the person expressing them.

This forum also has an ignore-function if you don't want to read all the garbage. Wink

ya.ya.yo!

IMHO, it is very hard to draw a line between "offensive" and "non-offensive" as everyone has a different tolerance level, and we will need 10x more mods to handle those "offensive post" reports.

I think you didn't read my statement correctly. I'm not requesting more moderation/censorship. I'm requesting more tolerance when it comes to questionable posts, because nothing is gained from suppressing such statements altogether.

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July 04, 2014, 09:32:03 PM
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Full quote:

I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban. Once again, when a person comes here and sees people using words like "kike, spic, chink, nigger, cracka", I somehow think that such behavior MIGHT look really bad and leave a horrible impression on both these forums and cryptocurrency in general.

Premise #1: We are here to help the world by finding the best idea for every single aspect of cryptocurrency AND/OR many of us are here to get rich.
Premise #2: If you had an employee at your company leaving comments on your website with racial slurs then you would fire that person immediately without any thought given, unless you were stupid or hated making money.
Conclusion: Users that spout racial slurs, even one time, should be permanently banned from this website and every cryptocurrency website.

This is not an opinion. It is a logical fact about how you run a business. Maybe you didn't notice, but segregation ended a looooong time ago. Now go learn how to run a business and then come back and apologize for being so ignorant about the subject.

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I agree they don't count, which is why they should be forcefully censored with a permanent ban.
This forum prides itself on free speech, be it from an idiot or a genius, just like Bitcoin prides itself on economic freedom. You're suggesting to take that freedom away and give the authorities the decision making. See the problem?

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Premise #1: We are here to help the world by finding the best idea for every single aspect of cryptocurrency AND/OR many of us are here to get rich.
You forgot the main purpose of these forums: expressing your opinion about Bitcoins, cryptocurrencies and other topics without censorship.

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Premise #2: If you had an employee at your company leaving comments on your website with racial slurs then you would fire that person immediately without any thought given, unless you were stupid or hated making money.
This is not a business, it's a community based on freedom of opinion. The main purpose of the forum isn't to make money - it is to let people have discussions amongst themseleves.

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This is not an opinion. It is a logical fact about how you run a business. Maybe you didn't notice, but segregation ended a looooong time ago. Now go learn how to run a business and then come back and apologize for being so ignorant about the subject.
No, that's an opinion. A fact is something proven by evidence. Logic isn't evidence (some people think the 5 second rule for food is logical  Cheesy), clearly defined rules are. And again, not a business.


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July 05, 2014, 11:40:48 PM
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"If I was trying to make money or get an idea adopted into the mainstream, I would be perfectly okay with my employees and colleagues using racial slurs like "nigger, kike, shitskin" on our website." - Every Dumb Response in This Thread

This has nothing to do with me being offended or not. I get it now. You are not smart enough to understand the repercussions of using the word "nigger" or language in general. You idiots sure are making the Central Banks happy right now. With "bitcoiners" like you, who needs shills?

You nailed it, this forum is obviously inadequate, I think you should start another one and then you could impose whatever rules you wish.  Since your rules would be so much better and make such a better impression I'm sure users would flock to your forum.

I think most people realize there is a difference between a forum endorsing something and allowing people to post their opinions. 

Good Luck!
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"If I was trying to make money or get an idea adopted into the mainstream, I would be perfectly okay with my employees and colleagues using racial slurs like "nigger, kike, shitskin" on our website." - Every Dumb Response in This Thread

This has nothing to do with me being offended or not. I get it now. You are not smart enough to understand the repercussions of using the word "nigger" or language in general. You idiots sure are making the Central Banks happy right now. With "bitcoiners" like you, who needs shills?

You nailed it, this forum is obviously inadequate, I think you should start another one and then you could impose whatever rules you wish.  Since your rules would be so much better and make such a better impression I'm sure users would flock to your forum.

I think most people realize there is a difference between a forum endorsing something and allowing people to post their opinions. 

Good Luck!

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July 08, 2014, 11:20:21 PM
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Not all bitcoiners come here. If that's going to be your attitude you can go to Reddit, where there's more moderation than these forums. I personally don't find it hard to ignore people here. This also shouldn't be the first place people visit when they hear of Bitcoin.

I can't wait until somebody important sees this and all three of you are permanently banned.


Bad Bear has already responded to your post and there aren't a lot of people more important than him.

Satoshi - perhaps but he's been MIA for a few days...

Theymos - probaly has less fucks to give about this than Bad Bear

Phineaus Gage - If you can find him I'm sure he might have an opinion.


~BCX~
Ok?...
You either know something we don't or there's a typo.

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July 09, 2014, 09:34:14 AM
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I can't wait until somebody important sees this and all three of you are permanently banned.


Bad Bear has already responded to your post and there aren't a lot of people more important than him.

Satoshi - perhaps but he's been MIA for a few days...

Theymos - probaly has less fucks to give about this than Bad Bear

Phineaus Gage - If you can find him I'm sure he might have an opinion.


~BCX~
Ok?...
You either know something we don't or there's a typo.

You should have detected the sarcasm in the above BCX's post lol. Grin

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