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July 01, 2014, 10:40:48 PM
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for 5 years everyone was shouting out to the government that bitcoins should stay anonymous,

for decades everyone was shouting out that  the government should not hand out private info of citizens financials /private life...

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now everyone wants to know who owns specific bitcoins and wants government to release financial info of private citizens...

Definite +1 here. What happened to privacy being desirable?
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July 01, 2014, 10:42:26 PM
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it's kind of like teabaggers who complain about government subsidies and then, in turn, receive their medicare and farm subsidies. people want the right thing, unless it doesn't benefit them. people are just assholes.
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July 01, 2014, 10:49:35 PM
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Here's the address with the U.S. Marshals auctioned bitcoins on block explorer, if Blockchain.info is DOWN

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi

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July 01, 2014, 10:52:31 PM
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Here's the address with the U.S. Marshals auctioned bitcoins on block explorer, if Blockchain.info is DOWN

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi

If u dont like the blockcexplorer.com GUI, here is a list of other explorer to monitor the SR auction winner's address...

1. http://blockr.io/address/info/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi

2. https://helloblock.io/addresses/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi

3. https://www.biteasy.com/blockchain/addresses/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi

4. https://chain.so/address/BTC/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi

5. https://bkchain.org/btc/address/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi

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July 01, 2014, 10:59:20 PM
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The winner was Kim DotCom
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July 01, 2014, 11:07:01 PM
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for 5 years everyone was shouting out to the government that bitcoins should stay anonymous,

for decades everyone was shouting out that  the government should not hand out private info of citizens financials /private life...

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now everyone wants to know who owns specific bitcoins and wants government to release financial info of private citizens...

Don't confuse gossip/meddle with...HISTORY!    Grin
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July 01, 2014, 11:18:41 PM
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for 5 years everyone was shouting out to the government that bitcoins should stay anonymous,

for decades everyone was shouting out that  the government should not hand out private info of citizens financials /private life...

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now everyone wants to know who owns specific bitcoins and wants government to release financial info of private citizens...

That's just silly.

The people who have always wanted bitcoins to be anonymous have no interest in knowing who owns these specific coins, and don't care about the financial info of those private citizens.

There may be some interest in the exchange rate that was paid for these bitcoins, but that has more to do with price discovery than violating someone's privacy.

The government exchanged bitcoins that all citizens collectively own (since the government represents the citizens) for some quantity of U.S. currency.  In the interest of transparency in government as well as identifying the current market price of bitcoins, this seems like reasonable information to reveal.  If the buyer doesn't want the public to know how much U.S. currency was exchanged for the bitcoins, then they shouldn't be exchanging with a public entity such as a national government.
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July 01, 2014, 11:59:33 PM
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If bitcoin is not anonymous, someone should be able to find out who the coins went to through blockchain analysis, right?  I'm thinking it won't happen.

Blockchain analysis only tells you what address they went to.

You'll need the receiver (or the sender) to release additional information if you want to know who controls that address.

I think you missed my point.  With all the claims of bitcoin not being anonymous or private, then someone should be able to find out who won the auction, right.  It appears to me that anonymity and privacy can be achieved just fine with bitcoin.  I don't see the need for all these alts claiming better privacy.

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July 02, 2014, 12:00:25 AM
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No multisig? They really need to use armory wallet!

Hardforks aren't that hard. It’s getting others to use them that's hard.
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July 02, 2014, 12:03:20 AM
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Any reason why Satoshi wouldn't buy them back ?


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July 02, 2014, 12:14:33 AM
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Beggars:
Public Note: Hi, I am an obese black one legged hooker with tourettes syndrome from Somalia, I just found out I have Super-gonorrhea. Please send me some of these bitecoins the feds stole so that I can pay for many penicillin shots. GO AMERICA!

Public Note: I'm a poor student in the US, please. I'm in heavy debt..

Public Note: I am a great person, but just had a very tough life so far. Please donate to my projects and help me make this world a better place.Thanks for making my dreams come true.Love you all.Plz send to: 1DoNATEEfRxD138DumZzwjAa2y8QSr86Uk

Wow, it even says DoNATE in that persons address.
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July 02, 2014, 12:16:10 AM
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I bought them all.

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July 02, 2014, 12:16:57 AM
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hmmm we shall see if they move again and where.

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July 02, 2014, 01:23:29 AM
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Any reason why Satoshi wouldn't buy them back ?

He already have 1 million pre-mined? He could mine a fuckton of bitcoin with a desktop at the beginning? He could buy 30k for cents each, not hundread of dollars, at the beginning?


And you are changing one mystery for a way bigger one, open since bitcoin was born


Who is 1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi?

Silk Road coins just moved here, hmmm...


Anyone can create hundreads of addresses in a day, so I don't think would be right ask who is this case, unless the winner has the most severe case of multiple personalities in the known universe, and you recognize each personality as a separate individual
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July 02, 2014, 01:28:39 AM
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That's just silly.

The people who have always wanted bitcoins to be anonymous have no interest in knowing who owns these specific coins, and don't care about the financial info of those private citizens.

There may be some interest in the exchange rate that was paid for these bitcoins, but that has more to do with price discovery than violating someone's privacy.

The government exchanged bitcoins that all citizens collectively own (since the government represents the citizens) for some quantity of U.S. currency.  In the interest of transparency in government as well as identifying the current market price of bitcoins, this seems like reasonable information to reveal.  If the buyer doesn't want the public to know how much U.S. currency was exchanged for the bitcoins, then they shouldn't be exchanging with a public entity such as a national government.

the government own all birth certificates and social security numbers. so lets let anyone have that info.. yea? government owns the tax office. so lets make all that info public yea?
if you know someone in the military doing special ops. lets reveal his location and missions publicly, lets even put a live feed of his location on googlemaps, yea?

or do you prefer a private life and have bitcoin as a financial system where you can put funds into and it not be publicly linked to you. do you really want the government to set precedent by making it standard practice to link bitcoin addresses to peoples public info.. and then simply shout it out publicly.

or do you prefer atleast some privacy?

what other people pay for their bitcoins is there business.

 

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July 02, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
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the government own all birth certificates and social security numbers. so lets let anyone have that info.. yea? government owns the tax office. so lets make all that info public yea?
if you know someone in the military doing special ops. lets reveal his location and missions publicly, lets even put a live feed of his location on googlemaps, yea?

or do you prefer a private life and have bitcoin as a financial system where you can put funds into and it not be publicly linked to you. do you really want the government to set precedent by making it standard practice to link bitcoin addresses to peoples public info.. and then simply shout it out publicly.

or do you prefer atleast some privacy?

what other people pay for their bitcoins is there business.

Now I remember why I had you on "ignore".

Your strawmen aren't impressing me.

If the government starts selling birth certificates, or social security numbers, then I would expect them to announce what the price will be.

If they are going to sell military secrets, then I expect the amount that they collect from that sale to be made public as well.

If they are going to sell bitcoins, then I expect them to announce how much they acquired.

I don't care who bought them, but I think its reasonable to expect the government to make public the government's revenues.

I said absolutely nothing about "link bitcoin addresses to peoples public info.. and then simply shout it out publicly", and your implying is doesn't make it so.  Try to focus on the words. They actually have meaning beyond what your hysteria wants you to believe.
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July 02, 2014, 02:38:52 AM
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If there smart they will put it through a mixer or slowly thru an exchange..

We wont know if they r smart.

But its a shit load of cash.. well bitcoin. Tongue
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July 02, 2014, 02:42:44 AM
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So, what about these bitcoins?
https://blockchain.info/address/1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw
Final Balance    $ 92,895,324.06
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July 02, 2014, 04:50:27 AM
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the government own all birth certificates and social security numbers. so lets let anyone have that info.. yea? government owns the tax office. so lets make all that info public yea?
if you know someone in the military doing special ops. lets reveal his location and missions publicly, lets even put a live feed of his location on googlemaps, yea?

or do you prefer a private life and have bitcoin as a financial system where you can put funds into and it not be publicly linked to you. do you really want the government to set precedent by making it standard practice to link bitcoin addresses to peoples public info.. and then simply shout it out publicly.

or do you prefer atleast some privacy?

what other people pay for their bitcoins is there business.

Now I remember why I had you on "ignore".

Your strawmen aren't impressing me.

If the government starts selling birth certificates, or social security numbers, then I would expect them to announce what the price will be.

If they are going to sell military secrets, then I expect the amount that they collect from that sale to be made public as well.

If they are going to sell bitcoins, then I expect them to announce how much they acquired.

I don't care who bought them, but I think its reasonable to expect the government to make public the government's revenues.

I said absolutely nothing about "link bitcoin addresses to peoples public info.. and then simply shout it out publicly", and your implying is doesn't make it so.  Try to focus on the words. They actually have meaning beyond what your hysteria wants you to believe.
There are certain expectations of privacy when people engage in certain financial transactions.

A large market participant has an incentive to keep his buying price secret from the market so the price cannot be manipulated around his actions. If a bidder is able to not have the value of his bid be made public then he is able to bid at a higher price, allowing the government to yield additional monies from the auction.

While the winning bid amounts would be public interest, the assets being sold were not purchased with taxpayer funds so the public does not have a legitimate "need to know" the price of the winning bids as it is not their funds at stake.

All of your bashing of members of the PD signature campaign, and stating the fact that you are ignoring members of the PD signature campaign (you are clearly not even ignoring the quoted member as your quoted his original post that you would not be able to see if you were ignoring him) are off topic. It is against forum policy to post off topic. I kindly request that to stop this.

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July 02, 2014, 10:33:25 AM
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The odd thing is that 2.28533471 BTC were sent as change. Why did the FBI only sell 29656 of the 29658 BTC?
That's the amount they received as spam. Just look at the incoming transactions of the FBI adress Wink

isn´t it beautiful that in the bitcoin universe, if you get spammed you actually making money ?!

imagine getting a dime for every penis enlargement email...  Cheesy
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