NEMStake unrightfully claimed - Full disclosure

[rockethead]

Wtf pet master are u stupid?

~CfA~

It is easy to say if you talk from above. Careless he may have been, but stupid is an insult.

[patmast3r]

Wtf pet master are u stupid?

~CfA~

It is easy to say if you talk from above. Careless he may have been, but stupid is an insult.

I appreciate you stepping up but I wasn't careless either.
I care - a lot.

[NASdaq]

So sorry to hear of this scam, NEM is a very honest team so you will recover. A good warning to all people in crypto land - beware of criminals!!

[tonyk]

I do not really understand the point of this topic:
1. It for sure will not be read by everybody.
2. When I place a buy order, I do not know who will be the eventual seller.
It is sad that somebody did that, but I do not know what the community can do about it, except collect money to buy 6 stakes.

[feina24h]

everyone make mistakes, Dev team should donate 6 stakes to you and lests move on  

[patmast3r]

I do not really understand the point of this topic:
1. It for sure will not be read by everybody.
2. When I place a buy order, I do not know who will be the eventual seller.
It is sad that somebody did that, but I do not know what the community can do about it, except collect money to buy 6 stakes.

The point was to be transparent about it. Keeping mistakes secret has fucked us one time - won't happen again.

[tonyk]

I do not really understand the point of this topic:
1. It for sure will not be read by everybody.
2. When I place a buy order, I do not know who will be the eventual seller.
It is sad that somebody did that, but I do not know what the community can do about it, except collect money to buy 6 stakes.

The point was to be transparent about it. Keeping mistakes secret has fucked us one time - won't happen again.

If this is the purpose please consider renaming the thread appropriately:
‘Be Aware 6 NEM stakes were scammed from me/us.’
Not
‘DO NOT BUY NEMSTAKE FROM THESE ADDRESSES!!!!’

2c

[ARGpentem]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

[From Above]

Wtf pet master are u stupid?

~CfA~

It is easy to say if you talk from above. Careless he may have been, but stupid is an insult.

u r utterly wrong. he was stupid and he know it.  dont have to lie dude
problem is now NEM is even more destroyed, no fairness, no egalitarian.Free Stakes for Scammers? NEM!

~CfA~

[Chris001]

Wtf pet master are u stupid?

~CfA~

It is easy to say if you talk from above. Careless he may have been, but stupid is an insult.

u r utterly wrong. he was stupid and he know it.  dont have to lie dude
problem is now NEM is even more destroyed, no fairness, no egalitarian.Free Stakes for Scammers? NEM!

~CfA~

Oh, cool CFA, you are in buy mode right now, I am too, looks like youll be running around putting a scare into everybody till my buy order gets filled. 

[From Above]

Oh, cool CFA, you are in buy mode right now, I am too, looks like youll be running around putting a scare into everybody till my buy order gets filled. 

sry Chris, im angry cuz i bought my additional stakes and i dont really like if some suckers get it 4 free because pet master is too stupid to properly issue dem stakes.... its unfair and not acceptable

~CfA~

[Chris001]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

[patmast3r]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

I think you can't delete threads here but even if I could I wouldn't.
If we have learned anything from UPs mistake it's that we have to be transparent about stuff like this. That's exactly what I'm doing.
We could have kept this a secret. Noone would have known, Noone could have known.
The fact that we were open about this should actually build up trust instead of hurting it.
This won't stop anything. Don't be absurd It's a few stakes out of 3000 - worse things have happend.

And just ignore CfA. He's some moron desperate for attention. He's the worst kind of a btt user and the entire forum knows it.

[Chris001]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

I think you can't delete threads here but even if I could I wouldn't.
If we have learned anything from UPs mistake it's that we have to be transparent about stuff like this. That's exactly what I'm doing.
We could have kept this a secret. Noone would have known, Noone could have known.
The fact that we were open about this should actually build up trust instead of hurting it.
This won't stop anything. Don't be absurd It's a few stakes out of 3000 - worse things have happend.

And just ignore CfA. He's some moron desperate for attention. He's the worst kind of a btt user and the entire forum knows it.

Im talking about issuing tokens. You are right, it shouldn't be taken down. I shouldn't have said that. Leave it up, but let those who want their tokens get them is all i'm saying.

[rockethead]

Wtf pet master are u stupid?

~CfA~

It is easy to say if you talk from above. Careless he may have been, but stupid is an insult.

u r utterly wrong. he was stupid and he know it.  dont have to lie dude
problem is now NEM is even more destroyed, no fairness, no egalitarian.Free Stakes for Scammers? NEM!

~CfA~

oops. This is a germ I am talking to.

[patmast3r]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

I think you can't delete threads here but even if I could I wouldn't.
If we have learned anything from UPs mistake it's that we have to be transparent about stuff like this. That's exactly what I'm doing.
We could have kept this a secret. Noone would have known, Noone could have known.
The fact that we were open about this should actually build up trust instead of hurting it.
This won't stop anything. Don't be absurd It's a few stakes out of 3000 - worse things have happend.

And just ignore CfA. He's some moron desperate for attention. He's the worst kind of a btt user and the entire forum knows it.

Im talking about issuing tokens. You are right, it shouldn't be taken down. I shouldn't have said that. Leave it up, but let those who want their tokens get them is all i'm saying.

The plan is to resume issueing tokens as soon as we've worked out the detailes of how it'll work in the future to avoid such mistakes.

[ARGpentem]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

I think you can't delete threads here but even if I could I wouldn't.
If we have learned anything from UPs mistake it's that we have to be transparent about stuff like this. That's exactly what I'm doing.
We could have kept this a secret. Noone would have known, Noone could have known.
The fact that we were open about this should actually build up trust instead of hurting it.
This won't stop anything. Don't be absurd It's a few stakes out of 3000 - worse things have happend.

And just ignore CfA. He's some moron desperate for attention. He's the worst kind of a btt user and the entire forum knows it.

It is incorrect. As long as the list is open, the discrepancy will come out. Matching the toke issuance list with the final list is not a rocket science. I keep a copy of the whole stake list and I am probably not the only one doing so. From a stakeholder POV, each account = 1 stake and the total number are written down so in the end things have to add up. 

[patmast3r]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

I think you can't delete threads here but even if I could I wouldn't.
If we have learned anything from UPs mistake it's that we have to be transparent about stuff like this. That's exactly what I'm doing.
We could have kept this a secret. Noone would have known, Noone could have known.
The fact that we were open about this should actually build up trust instead of hurting it.
This won't stop anything. Don't be absurd It's a few stakes out of 3000 - worse things have happend.

And just ignore CfA. He's some moron desperate for attention. He's the worst kind of a btt user and the entire forum knows it.

It is incorrect. As long as the list is open, the discrepancy will come out. Matching the toke issuance list with the final list is not a rocket science. I keep a copy of the whole stake list and I am probably not the only one doing so. From a stakeholder POV, each account = 1 stake and the total number are written down so in the end things have to add up. 

What would have stoped me from changing the names so there was no discrepancy ?
It would have been easy to cover up.

[ARGpentem]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

I think you can't delete threads here but even if I could I wouldn't.
If we have learned anything from UPs mistake it's that we have to be transparent about stuff like this. That's exactly what I'm doing.
We could have kept this a secret. Noone would have known, Noone could have known.
The fact that we were open about this should actually build up trust instead of hurting it.
This won't stop anything. Don't be absurd It's a few stakes out of 3000 - worse things have happend.

And just ignore CfA. He's some moron desperate for attention. He's the worst kind of a btt user and the entire forum knows it.

It is incorrect. As long as the list is open, the discrepancy will come out. Matching the toke issuance list with the final list is not a rocket science. I keep a copy of the whole stake list and I am probably not the only one doing so. From a stakeholder POV, each account = 1 stake and the total number are written down so in the end things have to add up.  

What would have stoped me from changing the names so there was no discrepancy ?
It would have been easy to cover up.

I keep a copy * and probably many others. It is a distributed blockchain concept so that we can all agree on a shared ledger. If there is a discrepancy and doubt, we can go back to the funding threads and look for the account's post to confirm the account's validity. In fact, I would recommend NEM team doing a full stakeholder list validation given all the changes and mistakes have been made. It could take sometimes but the method is clear and non refutable.

* My copy is about 2 weeks old when I was first active here but someone could have even an older copy.
 

[patmast3r]

This should be closed because the title is misleading. Make a note in the token issuance book if needed but "do not buy" thread does not do anything except to confuse people.

Pat take this stuff down. This stuff happens all the time. I feel bad it happened to you. You are a great asset to the NEM community, but there is no point to this and nothing should be halted.

You want to make sure nothing like this happens again?

Well, I would imagine it won't.

What other scams are out there? Countless!!

But we can't let the scammers stop the show. That is much more costly than 6 stakes!!!

I think you can't delete threads here but even if I could I wouldn't.
If we have learned anything from UPs mistake it's that we have to be transparent about stuff like this. That's exactly what I'm doing.
We could have kept this a secret. Noone would have known, Noone could have known.
The fact that we were open about this should actually build up trust instead of hurting it.
This won't stop anything. Don't be absurd It's a few stakes out of 3000 - worse things have happend.

And just ignore CfA. He's some moron desperate for attention. He's the worst kind of a btt user and the entire forum knows it.

It is incorrect. As long as the list is open, the discrepancy will come out. Matching the toke issuance list with the final list is not a rocket science. I keep a copy of the whole stake list and I am probably not the only one doing so. From a stakeholder POV, each account = 1 stake and the total number are written down so in the end things have to add up.  

What would have stoped me from changing the names so there was no discrepancy ?
It would have been easy to cover up.

I keep a copy * and probably many others. It is a distributed blockchain concept so that we can all agree on a shared ledger. If there is a discrepancy and doubt, we can go back to the funding threads and look for the account's post to confirm the account's validity. In fact, I would recommend NEM team doing a full stakeholder list validation given all the changes and mistakes have been made. It could take sometimes but the method is clear and non refutable.

* My copy is about 2 weeks old when I was first active here but someone could have even an older copy.
 

that 2 week old copy would have been worthless as the token issuance list was updated daily.

We did audit all tokens that we're issued.
The entire list was audited once already. During that process about 300 people were removed.