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July 24, 2014, 06:08:44 PM
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the law says you violate it if you don't have that by this date

obama says: ok you violated the law by not making the deadline. But given the circumstance, i wont prosecute you unless you miss that this date in the future. everybody in all three branches do it all the time, and it's totally legal.

nothing was modified because hypothetically, they can totally make a new law in the future saying that those businesses that made the original deadline would be entitled to some tax perks while those taking the extended deadline won't. that's the difference between modifying the law and exercising prosecutorial discretion

the more you linger on this, the dumber you look, rigon. just admitting that the speaker's lawsuit is frivolous and you just didn't like the law - not like we all have any doubt what your real motivation is - would have earned your more respect.

thanks for playing anyways.
Apparently the new rule of law is "Obama gets the make up the rules and laws as he goes."I wonder how this is going to go over when a republican president does the same thing.
you can quibble all you want, but deep down you think that no law was changed by obama and the speaker's lawsuit is bullshit. we know it and you know it.

just keep it up, it's fun. the only difference is you are just inviting people to second guess everything you say in the future. words well spent.

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July 24, 2014, 06:13:05 PM
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The way the law is written, federal subsidies are only supposed to be available to people who sign up through STATE exchanges. Since a bunch of states didn't set up exchanges those subsidies aren't available to poor people, so if they're given subsidies it will be breaking the law.

Of course the argument here is going to be "but he's the president. It doesn't matter what the law is, Obama can just give out the subsidies anyway!"
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July 24, 2014, 06:21:28 PM
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Indeed. Liberals are *shocked*, but it is not a surprise to anyone who pays attention. The PPACA was politically expedient, and therefore passed, precisely because it relied on state exchanges. 39 states opted out, though, something that the central planners in their infinite wisdom somehow did not foresee. That left Obama with an unworkable law because the law only allows them to subsidize premiums for insurance purchased on state exchanges.

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July 24, 2014, 06:24:51 PM
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Indeed. Liberals are *shocked*, but it is not a surprise to anyone who pays attention. The PPACA was politically expedient, and therefore passed, precisely because it relied on state exchanges. 39 states opted out, though, something that the central planners in their infinite wisdom somehow did not foresee. That left Obama with an unworkable law because the law only allows them to subsidize premiums for insurance purchased on state exchanges.
Obama will ask for another ruling. If that isn't in his favor he'll just grab a pen and change the law to include federal exchanges...he's already shown even though he's supposed to be a constitutional lawyer, he has little regard for the law.
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July 24, 2014, 06:28:19 PM
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20 million people have signed up for Obamacare.
http://time.com/2950961/obamacare-health-care-obama/

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July 24, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
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20 million people have signed up for Obamacare.
http://time.com/2950961/obamacare-health-care-obama/
So a bunch of people who no longer could get their old insurance because of Obamacare have signed up because that is now the only way for them to get it? I'm sure you have a point here, could you just get to it?
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