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July 04, 2014, 05:55:32 PM |
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Has anyone ever heard of Bitcoins being used in jail?
Someone could easily have someone create them a bunch of wallets with a sum of coins they have on the outside, then have someone send them the addresses and the amounts. Then trade those addresses. Or, some people have people that visit them all the time and will take care of business stuff for people, and someone could just keep a ledger then have visitation and tell the person on the outside where to send what coins, and who else to contact so that they could get their share paid.
People reading this are like "How can you trust the person to actually pay", well in jail the person usually pays or the person finds some other way to get paid back.
Eventually, there could even be a coin made for this, and eventually petitions could be made for the institutions to start accepting it so that people don't do trading on the outside, unless they are on the outside.
It would also be good work incentive for prisoners if they made this themselves, premined it, and paid them with it. That way people could earn money in jail that they can use outside, as long as they play by the rules.
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Ron~Popeil
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July 04, 2014, 05:59:23 PM |
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Has anyone ever heard of Bitcoins being used in jail?
Someone could easily have someone create them a bunch of wallets with a sum of coins they have on the outside, then have someone send them the addresses and the amounts. Then trade those addresses. Or, some people have people that visit them all the time and will take care of business stuff for people, and someone could just keep a ledger then have visitation and tell the person on the outside where to send what coins, and who else to contact so that they could get their share paid.
People reading this are like "How can you trust the person to actually pay", well in jail the person usually pays or the person finds some other way to get paid back.
Eventually, there could even be a coin made for this, and eventually petitions could be made for the institutions to start accepting it so that people don't do trading on the outside, unless they are on the outside.
It would also be good work incentive for prisoners if they made this themselves, premined it, and paid them with it. That way people could earn money in jail that they can use outside, as long as they play by the rules.
Most jails in the US don't allow internet access to inmates other than through a pre paid e-mail only system. You would have to get around "prison should be as painful as possible" law and order crowd to get any kind of reform.
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 06:03:15 PM |
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Has anyone ever heard of Bitcoins being used in jail?
Someone could easily have someone create them a bunch of wallets with a sum of coins they have on the outside, then have someone send them the addresses and the amounts. Then trade those addresses. Or, some people have people that visit them all the time and will take care of business stuff for people, and someone could just keep a ledger then have visitation and tell the person on the outside where to send what coins, and who else to contact so that they could get their share paid.
People reading this are like "How can you trust the person to actually pay", well in jail the person usually pays or the person finds some other way to get paid back.
Eventually, there could even be a coin made for this, and eventually petitions could be made for the institutions to start accepting it so that people don't do trading on the outside, unless they are on the outside.
It would also be good work incentive for prisoners if they made this themselves, premined it, and paid them with it. That way people could earn money in jail that they can use outside, as long as they play by the rules.
Most jails in the US don't allow internet access to inmates other than through a pre paid e-mail only system. You would have to get around "prison should be as painful as possible" law and order crowd to get any kind of reform. I was not suggesting internet access. If the prison were to accept it, what would happen is you would get a wallet when you came in. They would put that on a bracelet or whatever, and you would use that to buy things at commissary just by showing the guy your wrist so he could write it down (or scan it) and deduct that from the wallet they made for you, and you would have to have someone buy coins or mine for you, or you would have to do work to earn the coins that the jail mined. This sounds shitty (more people would join inmate worker programs) , BUT you could leave jail with some money that might end up on the exchanges.
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 06:06:18 PM |
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And to use Bitcoins in jail if they jail did NOT accept them, you would just trade wallets that have set amounts on them, or have someone (or a few people) on the outside move the coins around for everyone.
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July 04, 2014, 06:19:47 PM |
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I'm pretty sure you could do it by snail-mail. Jailers have the ability to read mail going in and out, but I don't think they can censor it. In the US anyway.
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July 04, 2014, 06:26:14 PM |
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Why use bitcoins when you can use cigarettes?
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July 04, 2014, 06:26:30 PM |
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Are you suggesting Bitcoin replace cigarettes and blow jobs in prison?
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July 04, 2014, 06:28:59 PM |
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bitcoin-hotep aka finshaggy
guys, dont spend much thought on this. finshaggy is known for his radical fantasy's..
i think basement dwelling teenagers who have just lost their computer privileges by their parents would be a better fantasy for finshaggy to dream about...
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 06:41:29 PM |
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I'm pretty sure you could do it by snail-mail. Jailers have the ability to read mail going in and out, but I don't think they can censor it. In the US anyway.
That is what I meant by using wallets that have money on them.
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 06:42:06 PM |
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Why use bitcoins when you can use cigarettes?
They retain value on the outside.
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July 04, 2014, 06:44:38 PM |
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I don't think prisons would allow people in there to do this sort of thing, but I'm sure they could do it on the side. Many criminals actually run their gangs or ilegal activity from within jail. Why use bitcoins when you can use cigarettes?
e-cigarettes? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 06:51:59 PM |
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Are you suggesting Bitcoin replace cigarettes and blow jobs in prison?
Because cigarettes are banned in most facilities in the US. I know they are in federal. They are still there because of visitation and crooked COs, but they are crazy expensive. One full cigarette. Like an *actual* cigarette? Not a bunch of CO discarded butts picked up by someone and turned into a gross cigarette-esk thing? But a REAL cigarette? In a higher security facility they are like 20-40 macks, each. 1 mack = $1 I don't smoke and never have. Thank god. Cigarettes aren't easily divisible, either. As far as blowjobs? <ahhemm> I wouldn't know. <ahemmmm> No, but I seriously wouldn't know. There are 2 very real risks engaging in this sort of behavior in prison, if you are so inclined. 1.) You will become a target for future sexual advances. Once people think you're "sweet" bc they heard this or that, you're screwed. 2.) Disease. So many of the guys in these places are HIV positive, it's insane. Not that you can really catch HIV from blowjobs, but blowjobs have a tendency to escalate to other things. The lack of condoms in these places would create an issue. Not to mention the fact that unless you like toothless, ugly, poorly hygienic men...you aren't going to enjoy yourself much. Despite Hollywood glamorization of prison, most guys in prison are not attractive...at all. Using Bitcoin in prison? Not going to happen. Prison commissary accounts are held by the prison. Prison officials are not likely to relinquish their control over those funds any time soon. These places are anything but democratic. Answer your questions? I was not suggesting people buy blow jobs, lol. The way it would work at first is you would just use coins to buy stuff to make spreads if you don't have money for commissary. Or for gambling. Or for getting stuff to make wine, or just whatever.
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Malin Keshar
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July 04, 2014, 06:53:25 PM |
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no. No internet acess in prison, the old drugs, cigars and money bribes is already working great so far.
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July 04, 2014, 06:56:26 PM |
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I don't think there's many prisons that let prisoners have internet access but I'm guessing people sneak smartphones in. Would be interesting if anybody is caught with one and sending and recieving payments in bitcoin.
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 07:03:42 PM |
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no. No internet acess in prison, the old drugs, cigars and money bribes is already working great so far.
You don't need internet, just wallets and someone on the outside.
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 07:04:26 PM |
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I don't think there's many prisons that let prisoners have internet access but I'm guessing people sneak smartphones in. Would be interesting if anybody is caught with one and sending and recieving payments in bitcoin.
Now adays, they would be using it to mine. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=674841
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Ludi
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July 04, 2014, 07:05:21 PM |
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Without access to the internet they'd be better of just controlling regular money, or like somebody else mentioned about barterting with cigarettes and food etc. I can't see bitcoin being used in such a fashion tbh.
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July 04, 2014, 07:06:21 PM |
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I don't think there's many prisons that let prisoners have internet access but I'm guessing people sneak smartphones in. Would be interesting if anybody is caught with one and sending and recieving payments in bitcoin.
Nah, they're too busy posting shit to Facebook, looking at porn, texting their "wifeys" to care about Bitcoin. I pity the guys these days that have to "suitcase" some of these newer smartphones during a shake down. Years ago the phones were smaller. I couldn't imagine sticking a Galaxy S4 up my ass...could you? Ok, this is clearly the strangest thread I've seen in years.
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Bitcoin-hotep (OP)
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July 04, 2014, 07:07:26 PM |
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Without access to the internet they'd be better of just controlling regular money, or like somebody else mentioned about barterting with cigarettes and food etc. I can't see bitcoin being used in such a fashion tbh.
AGAIN. No one would need internet access. And either someone would just have to keep a ledger, or trade wallets with set amounts. Which WOULD be like trading money. Like a .1 BTC wallet slip would be a thing. And people NEVER saw bitcoin being invented let alone being USED at all, let alone in prison. lol. So you can't just say "I don't see that happening".
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July 04, 2014, 07:10:24 PM |
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Without access to the internet they'd be better of just controlling regular money, or like somebody else mentioned about barterting with cigarettes and food etc. I can't see bitcoin being used in such a fashion tbh.
AGAIN. No one would need internet access. And either someone would just have to keep a ledger, or trade wallets with set amounts. Which WOULD be like trading money. Like a .1 BTC wallet slip would be a thing. And people NEVER saw bitcoin being invented let alone being USED at all, let alone in prison. lol. So you can't just say "I don't see that happening". Why would they bother keeping a ledger when they could just use paper money or whatever. Keeping a ledger of bitcoin is pointless as it can easily be cheated. That's what the blockchain is for.
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