Potave (OP)
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March 08, 2012, 06:19:57 PM |
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Hello, I am here to warn you that Dareq is a scam. Monday I tried to buy 28 BTS to Dareq ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65097.0) via Paypal for $134 (I paid by card). He said he would send the bit coins 12 hours later, so that he could do some verifications and stuff. Tuesday, I checked my BTC account and didn't have any btw from him. I asked him what was up, and he told me that paypal had blocked the payment. He says he doesn't know why, probably because his account is not a verified account. On MSN he told me that I could get chargeback. I'm not used to paypal, so I figured out I had to start a dispute. I turned the dispute into a complaint, in which I said exactly this : "I didn't receive the product. Seller told me the payment was blocked by paypal and that I had to start a dispute to "chargeback". Thats what I'm doing. I didn't receive the product." Now, paypal is waiting for his Dareq's answer. He has to reply before march 16th. Wednesday, my bank account got charged of $134. I though the payment was blocked ?? Of course, he blocked me on MSN and won't reply to my PM. |
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BadBear
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March 08, 2012, 06:23:36 PM |
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I'm sorry, that sucks. But why would you use someone who refuses to use escrow services, and refuses to trade with trusted people?
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Potave (OP)
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March 08, 2012, 06:32:35 PM |
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I thought one couldn't be scammed over paypal. He used this paypal address : Bazyleks@hotmail.com (Barbara Bazylaks) |
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March 08, 2012, 06:33:06 PM |
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I thought one couldn't be scammed over paypal.
Fail. http://paypalsucks.com/ |
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Potave (OP)
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March 08, 2012, 06:45:51 PM |
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How can I get my money back ? I already filed a complaint on Paypal. Is that enough ?
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March 08, 2012, 07:25:37 PM |
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How can I get my money back ? I already filed a complaint on Paypal. Is that enough ?
Have your bank reverse the payment to PayPal. (PayPal will ban you forever if you do this, though.) |
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Potave (OP)
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March 08, 2012, 07:27:34 PM |
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The money has already been taken from my account so .. ?
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Potave (OP)
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March 08, 2012, 07:38:59 PM |
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Sorry to hear this happened to you, but wasn't all of the previous threads he started enough warning for you?
There were plenty of people who picked apart his business plan and pointed out many flaws he couldn't explain away. The whole thing looked extremely suspicious from the start. Not to mention he was selling also a graphics card using someone else photos and description.
Hopefully PayPal had time to freeze the money in Dareq's PayPal account. If they did it will be refunded to your bank account after the dispute ends, if not, your SOL.
Actually I don't know if the money has been frozen in his account. He told me his account was blocked but that's probably another lie .. I started the dispute like 24hours after the payment. |
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Raoul Duke
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March 08, 2012, 07:44:56 PM |
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Well, he did took it into consideration, because he PM'd me when he started suspecting dareq would ot send him the bitcoins. He decided to risk it and he lost. It sucks, but I bet he knows he has nobody else to blame but himself. You should thank him because he's telling everyone he got fooled and that dareq is a scammer. Probably will avoid someone else of getting scammed. |
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March 08, 2012, 07:49:42 PM |
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@OP: You're going to hear this a lot in this thread but-- Paypal is a scam and you fell for it. Never use Paypal for Bitcoins.
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Raoul Duke
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March 08, 2012, 07:57:48 PM |
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@OP: You're going to hear this a lot in this thread but-- Paypal is a scam and you fell for it. Never use Paypal for Bitcoins.
You can use Paypal for Bitcoins. I've bought some here and I'm in the process of buying some more right now. But I will not get my name dirty for $100, hell, not even for $1000. I'm already dirty enough without being a scammer  |
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March 08, 2012, 08:01:12 PM |
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Just a tip, If he does contact you and tries to tell you to cancel/mark resolved your dispute/complaint so he can refund the money, DON'T! This will prevent you from opening a new dispute. He can refund your money through the dispute portal.  |
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Potave (OP)
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March 08, 2012, 10:30:52 PM |
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Why didn't you ban him then or delete his thread?
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March 09, 2012, 07:11:31 AM |
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Why didn't you ban him then or delete his thread?
Can't ban/censor people just because they might be a scammer. |
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Potave (OP)
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March 09, 2012, 10:48:23 AM |
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So, do you think paypal is gonna give me the money back or do I have to call my bank ?
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Matthew N. Wright
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March 09, 2012, 10:58:19 AM |
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So, do you think paypal is gonna give me the money back or do I have to call my bank ?
http://paypalsucks.comYou tell me? Do you think Paypal is going to give you your money?  |
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March 09, 2012, 03:08:36 PM |
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So, do you think paypal is gonna give me the money back or do I have to call my bank ?
I had to file a dispute once (non bitcoin related), once it ended I got my money back, took like a month though. |
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Potave (OP)
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March 09, 2012, 03:21:31 PM |
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Ok.
Thanks for your help. I'll keep the thread updated
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March 09, 2012, 03:46:38 PM |
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My paypal account has been frozen and that's why I have asked OP to chargeback his money. He can easily do it via normal dispute or just via bank dispute, it doesn't really matter. I have already apologized him, and didnt ask him to send it as gift or to close dispute or something like that.
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