FEMA: The Founding Fathers were terrorists.

[Jon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oP1Ke70Mi8

It seems FEMA has been dispatching speakers to local law enforcement to tell them:

1. People who are dedicated to their cause and beliefs are dangerous.

2. The passionate revolutionaries who started this country are terrorists and should be looked down upon.

Dangerous precedents are being set here, people.

[Hawker]

If they lost, they would indeed have been terrorists.

Why does this surprise you? 

[Jon]

That doesn't surprise me. What upsets me is that FEMA and friends are trying to suppress the philosophy this country was founded upon:

If tyranny exists, it is just to take arms against it, even if it exists as the government today.

FEMA and the other feds should fear the people; the feds taking a stance against us is a threat.

You wouldn't understand, Hawker, since all authority is virtuous to you. You treat the government as a god.

[RodeoX]

I have to say that I mostly agree.

1. People who are dedicated to their cause and beliefs are dangerous.
Such people are dangerous, and that is one of the reasons I support them. Only people who have an awful agenda need to fear ideas. Ideas spread when they have merit and that is a threat only to wrong doers and hypocrites.


 2. The passionate revolutionaries who started this country are terrorists and should be looked down upon.
They did practice terrorism and shockingly cowardice battlefield tactics. Sniping from the forest, refusing to march in a phalanx. Hell, they were called terrorists at the time. Just like the Taliban all that will go away after a victory. The difference between a terrorist and a hero can be no more that who wins.

[Hawker]

I have to say that I mostly agree.

1. People who are dedicated to their cause and beliefs are dangerous.
Such people are dangerous, and that is one of the reasons I support them. Only people who have an awful agenda need to fear ideas. Ideas spread when they have merit and that is a threat only to wrong doers and hypocrites.


 2. The passionate revolutionaries who started this country are terrorists and should be looked down upon.
They did practice terrorism and shockingly cowardice battlefield tactics. Sniping from the forest, refusing to march in a phalanx. Hell, they were called terrorists at the time. Just like the Taliban all that will go away after a victory. The difference between a terrorist and a hero can be no more that who wins.

Read it Boss.  Your founders would have been terrorists if they lost.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Wait a minute....

Since Atlas/Boss is notorious for lying, stretching the truth, later realizing he's wrong, then changing his name to hide his horrible track record, let's take an educated look at the video he included as proof for his claims.

First claim:
FEMA is claiming something.

We see one individual talking to barely 20 people in a closed room? That's a dangerous precedent? Does Atlas realize that there are meetings like this all over the world in regards to racist agendas, drugs, or even terrorism itself? Why is freedom of speech only okay when Atlas agrees with it?

Where is FEMA's official stance on this? Does their website call the founding father's dirty bastard terrorists, or just this one dude who has probably already been reprimanded once the video hit youtube? This is not news.

Second claim:
The Founding Fathers weren't terrorists.

Terrorist is not the right word, but I'm sure they caused their government a bit of terror. We'd call them revolutionaries. They wanted changed and they fought for it. The government can call it whatever it wants, the only definition that will matter is the one given by the last man standing.

This is not news and everyone with a grain of sense has already thought of their founding fathers as dangerously determined, equally understanding that we must be too if things get bad enough--- case in point, it's not bad enough yet.


Third claim:

1. People who are dedicated to their cause and beliefs are dangerous.

Atlas, people who are violently dedicated to their causes or beliefs are dangerous to anyone who opposes them.


Fourth claim:

2. The passionate revolutionaries who started this country are terrorists and should be looked down upon.

For starters, this is not an official release from FEMA, so you're spreading FUD.

Secondly, can you point to the part of the video where he says you should look down on the founding fathers and not that you should just be aware and weary of people ready to die for their beliefs (because many uneducated misguided freaks like yourself who live inside of extremism and spend all their time soaking up youtube videos will probably end up spraying bullets on students for a non-reason).


Fifth claim:

Dangerous precedents are being set here, people.

Uh no. Do you even know what a precedent is? 9/11 and the War on Terror was a dangerous precedent. Patriot Act was a dangerous precedent. Some dude giving a private speech to some other dudes in a building? Grow up.

[Jon]

Atlas, people who are violently dedicated to their causes or beliefs are dangerous to anyone who opposes them.

Like the US government, Israel and NATO towards civilians of countries that don't do things their way?
 

[Matthew N. Wright]

Atlas, people who are violently dedicated to their causes or beliefs are dangerous to anyone who opposes them.

Like the US government, Israel and NATO towards civilians of countries that don't do things their way?
 

Classic Atlas response.

• Completely ignore all points
• Avoid admitting that you're wrong at all costs
• Respond to 200 line message with an off-topic one liner.

[Jon]

Atlas, people who are violently dedicated to their causes or beliefs are dangerous to anyone who opposes them.

Like the US government, Israel and NATO towards civilians of countries that don't do things their way?
 

Classic Atlas response.

• Completely ignore all points
• Avoid admitting that you're wrong at all costs
• Respond to 200 line message with an off-topic one liner.

Unremorsefully.

I'm now off to simulate the nearest college campus in TF2(!)