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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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July 07, 2014, 10:59:42 AM |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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July 07, 2014, 11:05:28 AM |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
Are you really serious! After all the promise of decentralized revolution and financial renaissance, all can be just stopped by just blocking a 4 digit port. I am going to cry!
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Teka
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July 07, 2014, 11:07:38 AM |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
Are you really serious! After all the promise of decentralized revolution and financial renaissance, all can be just stopped by just blocking a 4 digit port. I am going to cry! Well to make it easier, couldn't the intercontental cable providers block this? As in the people who actually own the fiber under the sea. It's only like 4 companies.
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July 07, 2014, 11:11:12 AM |
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Well there is nothing saying you have to use port 8333. You can easily swap to another port.
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July 07, 2014, 11:13:44 AM |
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Well there is nothing saying you have to use port 8333. You can easily swap to another port.
yeah, like say, port 80.
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Teka
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July 07, 2014, 11:14:36 AM |
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Well there is nothing saying you have to use port 8333. You can easily swap to another port.
Oh yeah and that too
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July 07, 2014, 11:16:29 AM |
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Could it happen like that?
To block bitcoin node traffic the ISPs would need to filter out all traffic doing something called deep packet inspection for all international traffic. As far as I know only China, with its Great Firewall, and some others dictature-led countries are capable of doing it. I am quite sure India doesn't have this capability. They, most likely, can only blacklist individual IP addresses and domain names.
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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July 07, 2014, 11:17:11 AM |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
Are you really serious! After all the promise of decentralized revolution and financial renaissance, all can be just stopped by just blocking a 4 digit port. I am going to cry! Well to make it easier, couldn't the intercontental cable providers block this? As in the people who actually own the fiber under the sea. It's only like 4 companies. Who are those 4
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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July 07, 2014, 11:20:24 AM |
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I think i should really buy some namecoins and support it
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Teka
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July 07, 2014, 11:26:37 AM Last edit: July 07, 2014, 12:21:22 PM by Teka |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
Are you really serious! After all the promise of decentralized revolution and financial renaissance, all can be just stopped by just blocking a 4 digit port. I am going to cry! Well to make it easier, couldn't the intercontental cable providers block this? As in the people who actually own the fiber under the sea. It's only like 4 companies. Who are those 4 Here are the internet service providers for normal internet service providers: UUNET Level 3 Verizon AT&T Qwest Sprint IBM Most of them are US owned companies but there is probably more.
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Ekaros
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July 07, 2014, 12:19:01 PM |
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Could it happen like that?
To block bitcoin node traffic the ISPs would need to filter out all traffic doing something called deep packet inspection for all international traffic. As far as I know only China, with its Great Firewall, and some others dictature-led countries are capable of doing it. I am quite sure India doesn't have this capability. They, most likely, can only blacklist individual IP addresses and domain names. It can be done, though it does need quite large investment because doing it at high-speed isn't easy. Adding additional layer of encryption could fix some of the problems. Forming a connection could still be an issue. Basicly lot of things can be blocked on Internet, but these blocks can be circumvented by encryption, VPN and so on...
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July 07, 2014, 01:09:19 PM |
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Well there is nothing saying you have to use port 8333. You can easily swap to another port.
yeah, like say, port 80. Wonder if 53 will work?
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July 07, 2014, 01:09:25 PM |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
If an ISP blocks your port you can just use port forwarding and get around it. Do not worry the bitcoin network will not be shutdown withing a day. It has gained enough momentum already and cannot be shutdown so fast. Unless it is a 51% attack which forks the blockchain ofcourse.
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July 07, 2014, 01:14:08 PM |
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The only issue I can think of is finding nodes on non-standard ports. Are any of the seed nodes on ports other than 8333?
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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July 07, 2014, 01:39:19 PM |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
If an ISP blocks your port you can just use port forwarding and get around it. Do not worry the bitcoin network will not be shutdown withing a day. It has gained enough momentum already and cannot be shutdown so fast. Unless it is a 51% attack which forks the blockchain of course. Nobody can shutdown bitcoin network, the problem however is mainstream people shutdown by their government by askng the isp who are financed by the banks
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Ron~Popeil
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July 07, 2014, 02:21:17 PM |
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I wonder if it is possible to address this by building a port hopping wallet. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't that how music and video downloaders got around the riaa?
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July 07, 2014, 02:30:21 PM |
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An ISP can block a port very easily, such as 8333 or 8332
If an ISP blocks your port you can just use port forwarding and get around it. Hey bud, look up the definition of port forwarding before you spout random BS, eh? Technically, even if there was a "great firewall" on the border of the country, all it'd take is a single node to smuggle data [VPN anyone?] between that firewall. They'd need to implement a firewall / filtering policy at almost access layer to prevent this sort of thing going on. Honestly, from a tech stand-point, it's nearly impossible to block a competent user from getting around a filtering system other than literally creating a country wide intranet not tied to the internet.
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July 07, 2014, 02:58:46 PM |
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Could it happen like that?
To block bitcoin node traffic the ISPs would need to filter out all traffic doing something called deep packet inspection for all international traffic. As far as I know only China, with its Great Firewall, and some others dictature-led countries are capable of doing it. I am quite sure India doesn't have this capability. They, most likely, can only blacklist individual IP addresses and domain names. you could use TOR in case of that, i think.
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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July 07, 2014, 04:19:55 PM |
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I think the whole point here sheds light on a very important aspect of bitcoin going mainstream, which is an average mainstream user not to be blocked by an entity in order to access the blockchain..
Definetly there has to be a project where people can connect to blockchain irrespective of the isp provider
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