[KINDA GB] Minion ASIC to technobit Aseembly

[HardwareReviewer]

Anybody knows the address of Technobit (where to send the chips to)?

Edit:

Got it:

Technomachinex Mt Ltd
Sofia 1784 Bulgaria
Tzarigradsko chouse 7-th km

[sticky]

How does this make sense?

This is very worrisome. Is BA essentially admitting that they cannot make their own chips into a functional miner? In the last update they said that batch 1 and 2 would be shipped by the end of july. But now they want us to take raw chips, spend more money on parts, and wait another month plus for assembly by a third party? Is this an attempt to avoid sending compensation units?

I don't understand why anyone would do this. WTF is going on?

EDIT: See new post below.

[HardwareReviewer]

I will get you both added.

The best way to handle this is going to be every interested PM me with either their BA/MS order number and email and number of chips they have. From there I will put together how many total chips we have and how many boards, and I will make sure the relevant orders gets switched to chips. From there [probably leave this open till Thursday] I will check with marto on pricing numbers and timeline, and we will go from there.

PM sent

[HardwareReviewer]

How does this make sense?

This is very worrisome. Is BA essentially admitting that they cannot make their own chips into a functional miner? In the last update they said that batch 1 and 2 would be shipped by the end of july. But now they want us to take raw chips, spend more money on parts, and wait another month plus for assembly by a third party? Is this an attempt to avoid sending compensation units?

I don't understand why anyone would do this. WTF is going on?

If they do keep their promise this time, and ship everything before the end of this month, you'll be fine I guess.
But I can't help being doubtful, especially when bare chips are being offered to customers instead (like HashFast was doing before declaring bankruptcy).

[sticky]

Bobsag and Techbit:

After some math, I'm curious if this would work, although I'm still baffled by why BA cannot build a miner themselves and would rather pass the buck to resellers and manufacturers.

For an X-3 I would get 100 chips. Valued at $100 each = $10,000

If for each 100 chips sent to you, you built 13 COMPLETE boards: 4 minions, coolers, controller, and some way of hosting at Minersource with their PSUs rather than shipping, it might be worth it to a bunch of X-3 customers.

Each board: 4 minions @ 120GHs each = 480Ghs . X 13 Boards= 6.24Ths  and a total of 52 chips.

That leaves you (Minersource/Techbit) with 48 chips per X-3 transfer. $4800/5.760Ths worth of chips.

If minersource could host each "13 Board Frankenminer" for around $400 a month it MAY work.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea, but it is dependent on customers not spending any more money than we already have, and Minersource's ability to host the units.

In summary: For each X-3, Minersource/Techbit builds 13 COMPLETE 4 chip boards that hash around 6.24Ths and consume 6250w. The units are hosted by minersource for around $400/month.

In return Minersource/Techbit get 48 chips valued @ $4800/5.75TH hashing power.

If this could be completed in a reasonable amount of time, I would consider it. But I, like many others, cannot fork out any more money on these miners.

Bobsag3 and Tech- Thank you for your hard work and considering this option. If something like this can be worked out, you may just save the day.

It's late and I'm exhausted. If my math is off feel free to flame away.

[y_boonstra]

Bobsag and Techbit:

After some math, I'm curious if this would work, although I'm still baffled by why BA cannot build a miner themselves and would rather pass the buck to resellers and manufacturers.

For an X-3 I would get 100 chips. Valued at $100 each = $10,000

If for each 100 chips sent to you, you built 13 COMPLETE boards: 4 minions, coolers, controller, and some way of hosting at Minersource with their PSUs rather than shipping, it might be worth it to a bunch of X-3 customers.

Each board: 4 minions @ 120GHs each = 480Ghs . X 13 Boards= 6.24Ths  and a total of 52 chips.

That leaves you (Minersource/Techbit) with 48 chips per X-3 transfer. $4800/5.760Ths worth of chips.

If minersource could host each "13 Board Frankenminer" for around $400 a month it MAY work.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea, but it is dependent on customers not spending any more money than we already have, and Minersource's ability to host the units.

In summary: For each X-3, Minersource/Techbit builds 13 COMPLETE 4 chip boards that hash around 6.24Ths and consume 6250w. The units are hosted by minersource for around $400/month.

In return Minersource/Techbit get 48 chips valued @ $4800/5.75TH hashing power.

If this could be completed in a reasonable amount of time, I would consider it. But I, like many others, cannot fork out any more money on these miners.

Bobsag3 and Tech- Thank you for your hard work and considering this option. If something like this can be worked out, you may just save the day.

It's late and I'm exhausted. If my math is off feel free to flame away.

ATM its to expensive for X1 buyers + delivery is to long.. is it possible to make it cheaper

[Kuttingcorners]

its possible to make cheaper if you give up and buy some s3's!

[philipma1957]

its possible to make cheaper if you give up and buy some s3's!

yeah looks like the only way  for now.

[y_boonstra]

If it would be 2 minion per assembly it would be intersted so every X1 owner can finnaly go and get mining if not you have pay 4 chip to het 2 of them running on a board?

[ZBC3]

Technobit can build within 2 weeks. I have used technobit's assembly service several times (For bitfury chips). Each time the website said it would take 4 weeks after receipt of the chips, but it only took 2 weeks (to receive the finished product). With all the minion chips being sent at the same time it may take a little longer, but that's an assumption. I don't work for Technobit and am not officially speaking for them. Unfortunately, I don't get paid for promoting their business.

I have no reservations ordering from or sending chips to Martin (Marto74) at Technobit. You can send the chips usps intl priority for about $60. It takes 5-6 days to get to Bulgaria when sending that way. One trick is to put the chips inside the small flat rate box and then place that box into the flat rate envelope. It will save you $5 and get to its destination faster.

If you have any reservations about Marto74 or Technobit, then I encourage you to read my previous posts about their service.

I wish I had chips to send them myself.

[Scrappy Do]

Offering this to all BA/MS/other customers who want to group together to have marto over at technobit assemble minion chips.

Current Exchange offers for BA/MS Customers:
6 Chips per X1
100 Chips per X3

Each technobit board needs:
1x http://technobit.eu/index.php?id_product=79&controller=product&id_lang=1
4x http://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freezer-Rev-Cooler-Multi-Directional/dp/B002G392ZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404768489&sr=8-1&keywords=freezer+7+pro

+ PSU and Controller

This GB is an effort to gather a larger number of chips together for orders.

We are working on the option of paying chip for assembly.

Boards Ordered: 253/XXXX [No Max]

We will not be collecting any funds, and all money due for assembly will need to be paid to marto. We can however expedite having your BA/MS order directly into chips, and shipped to marto ASAP.

Edit:
For those that want, assembly per board can be paid for with 4 chips, so 4 chips per board.

 So can you break this down further please? I am interested in trading both my x3's in.

1. I assume I will need to mount all the fans and have them shipped to me correct?

2. Does anyone know how many boards a pi can handle?

3. I will need 50 boards and that is already at a 12% discount, I assume we will easily hit the 100 boards for 20% discount. Can you tell us the exact discount we will receive?

4. Will you ship the chips to him for us?

5. Will they ship the boards directly to me?

6. Can you refund the extra power supply I paid for as well?

 Thanks so much in advance, I will pm you my order numbers.

Scrap

[bobsag3]

1. If this is going to go off topic and talking about other miners and such, ill close the thread and not offer this. We have enough going on with everything that I do not have enough time to police this thread so that I can get info out as needed.

2. Prices: They are subject to marto's pricing, I will pass on any discount we might be able to get but 0 promises

Offering this to all BA/MS/other customers who want to group together to have marto over at technobit assemble minion chips.

Current Exchange offers for BA/MS Customers:
6 Chips per X1
100 Chips per X3

Each technobit board needs:
1x http://technobit.eu/index.php?id_product=79&controller=product&id_lang=1
4x http://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freezer-Rev-Cooler-Multi-Directional/dp/B002G392ZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404768489&sr=8-1&keywords=freezer+7+pro

+ PSU and Controller

This GB is an effort to gather a larger number of chips together for orders.

We are working on the option of paying chip for assembly.

Boards Ordered: 253/XXXX [No Max]

We will not be collecting any funds, and all money due for assembly will need to be paid to marto. We can however expedite having your BA/MS order directly into chips, and shipped to marto ASAP.

Edit:
For those that want, assembly per board can be paid for with 4 chips, so 4 chips per board.

 So can you break this down further please? I am interested in trading both my x3's in.

1. I assume I will need to mount all the fans and have them shipped to me correct?

2. Does anyone know how many boards a pi can handle?

3. I will need 50 boards and that is already at a 12% discount, I assume we will easily hit the 100 boards for 20% discount. Can you tell us the exact discount we will receive?

4. Will you ship the chips to him for us?

5. Will they ship the boards directly to me?

6. Can you refund the extra power supply I paid for as well?

 Thanks so much in advance, I will pm you my order numbers.

Scrap

1. Yes you will
2. You dont use a Pi, technobit boards use a openWRT controller that can power at least 7 boards each.
3. No discount unless marto can give us a discount, the discount price is usually only for single buyers and we hardly qualify
4. Yep
5. You will have to ask marto that, im pretty sure its yes, but at your cost
6. Yup

Also: We are not going to be offering any special payments or anything for this, so please do not ask.

[Avastar]

"Also: We are not going to be offering any special payments or anything for this, so please do not ask."

I love Vultures; if it weren't for them we'd have no other options.

4 week turn around: That means they will mine with your chips for 3 weeks. Just think: the first chips they receive they don't need to return to you for 3 weeks. Do you think it takes 3 weeks to install those first chips? Nope, they will mine with them and rotate them out for new chips at the 3 week deadline, most likely overclocked. If any get burned out, the ponzi scheme allows them to send you someone's chips that they just received.
They have every reason to do this and no reason not to. From personal experience, I bought S1's with full warranty from MS, they came used and had the overclock scripts already installed.

However, even though they are vultures we have no other alternatives.

tldr; You have two options: be food for the vultures or eat the slop BA feeds you

[musicmaker613]

Bobsag, So no chance of also paying for heatsinks with chips?  Similar to how we would be paying for boards/assembly with chips.

[thomas_s]

"Also: We are not going to be offering any special payments or anything for this, so please do not ask."

I love Vultures; if it weren't for them we'd have no other options.

This just means we will not accept trades, if you contact Marto and he will accept what you have to trade so be it.

[bobsag3]

Bobsag, So no chance of also paying for heatsinks with chips?  Similar to how we would be paying for boards/assembly with chips.

Sorry, but nope. Heatsinks can be found just about everywhere for a wide variety of currencies.

[sorehammer]

so if we pay with the 4 chips does that include shipping to us.

[bobsag3]

so if we pay with the 4 chips does that include shipping to us.

Unless marto decides to include it, no.

[sorehammer]

cheers

[ZBC3]

Are you going to be selling any of the assembled technobit miners on Minersource after you receive them?


As to mining with your chips for 3 weeks, I highly doubt it. It takes about a week or more for Martin to receive your chips in Bulgaria (if sent Intl Priority). Then, it depends on how many miners Technobit has to assemble for the group order. It sounds like you'll be sending a lot of chips for assembly, and it takes time to assemble all the miners, test them, and then a minimum of 5 days shipping time to return them as one shipment. Martin (Technobit) assembles miners with a variety of manufacturers chips. He's all ready mining with his own equipment, and I doubt another 400 GH/s miner mining for him is really worth his time (besides testing the unit for stability).