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July 07, 2014, 09:29:59 PM
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Hello there

I´ll try to make this quick. You dont have to read the next paragraph if you dont want to but its recommended.
I am Selene and I've been here since January of this year. I was a low stakes semi-pro grinder (around 2.5k final  withdrawal) for about 2 years until the end of 2012.
I have had difficulties with Skrill and Paypal in my country , so I have switched to Bitcoin.
I plan to start small , you can see further precedence in my threads to sell Paypal for bitcoins.
The Bitcoin poker platforms are full of newbies and I have gone from 0.03 to 0.2 BTC in two days , losing only one tournament.
It is very easy for a poker player to win , even with bad luck.

My service
I'll play poker with your bitcoins, in return for a portion of profit.

Initial offer
I know it is hard for you to trust a new member of this forum with funds for a gambling game , so I have made an easier initial offer.

-I'll only accept payments of 5.5$, 11$, 16$ value. I may increase this to 36$ at a later time.
-I'll only accept one client at a time. I might increase the number slightly if this service succeeds.

Special offers
I will provide Paypal collateral up to 16$ for the first 5 customers. They must be long-term members of the forum.
For the first 10 clients, I will guarantee that if I lose , they get 75% of their bitcoins back. (I'll cover the loses)
Both of these offers may be extended based on demand.

Potential Risk
There is always a risk in poker. However the player's skill and opponents' skill play a big role in this. Right now I am able to play at around 95% winrate. If I am unable to maintain this, I will guarantee you 75% of your bitcoins, from my own pocket.

Payout rate
You will earn 45% of what you invest.
If you invest 16$ , you shall receive 16$ + 7.2$

Payments
Payments shall be sent 20 minutes after the tournament ends.
Tournaments lasts anywhere from 20-60 minutes.
With sufficient traffic, a new tournament starts at least every hour.

Working Hours
Working hours are from 17:30 and 24:00 Central European Time , because that is when traffic on poker sites is enough for this activity.

Further Proof
I can provide my Bitcoin tournament history,my current casino wallet status and my poker blog with over 2 years of data in posts , however it is in Slovak. (From Jan ´10 to Dec ´12)
I'm trusted member on the forum associated with the blog with about 200 Posts and lots of karma. These proofs can be provided via PM.

Wallet code
1ByTEqFTmcbC4MgUnqteRfTMJeMy3nHRL1
This is the only wallet address I will ever use for business.
Contact me via PM before sending any payment.

FAQs

Why do you accept those exact payments ?  
Those are the buy-ins into tournaments I play.

Why not 1$ or 2$ those tournaments exist too!
Lower tournaments are really not worth the time.
I wouldn't mind doing it for reputation now but I doubt people want to invest 2$.
If you are interested in doing a smaller tournament , let me know.

Will you accept higher payments such as 0.1 BTC in the close future ?
No. There is not enough traffic on Bitcoin poker sites as of now to play with that amount efficiently.
However I expect that to change as Bitcoin grows.

There are tables with 360$ buy-ins , but those tables are hyper turbo, with luck playing much greater part.
My winrate would be 60% at max , so you would be better off investing in roulette at that point.

How come you don't lose? What tournaments do you play ?
I play 6 seater Double or Nothing tournaments.
In short: 6 players enter. 3 last standing players split all buyins equally. That means after 3 players are eliminated the tournament is over.
I have alot of experience playing against much tougher playerbase and still having a solid winrate.

How come when you are doing so great and you have the balance you need OUR MONEY, you only cut your profits you can have from your bets!
I take it as an time investment to become trusted and to let people know I'm serious. In the future it could allow me to play larger tournaments that I probably wouldn't be able to afford with my individual bankroll.

LINKS
Here is my Poker blog with over 15,000 views.
It's in Slovak, so that might be confusing but I can help you out if you PM me.
Also contains videos of me playing poker, some of which are found on page 23.

You can find me online via Sharkscope and similar services and see my past results.
Note: Sharskcope and similar services don't count cashouts causing my profit to show as only 700$.

Nick: prosvk


I can upload my Bitcoin tournament history too , if you want it.




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July 07, 2014, 09:47:23 PM
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So i actually got 2 PMs. Wow this is nice. However im done for today i´ll be back tommorow responding and playing too.
Also im sure there are many grammar mistakes but im too sleepy for today so I´ll leave that for the next day.

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So do you have any username so we can track your play in one of the most popular poker houses? i know very well the double or nothing sit and go, so which website are you using to play with bitcoin at the same time you can multitable, most of bitcoin poker sites are low populated.

And whats your aproxx winning rate in double or nothing?

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So do you have any username so we can track your play in one of the most popular poker houses? i know very well the double or nothing sit and go, so which website are you using to play with bitcoin at the same time you can multitable, most of bitcoin poker sites are low populated.

And whats your aproxx winning rate in double or nothing?

Hey I added some links now and the nick you can track down. My winning rate in double or nothing in bitcoin casino is approx. 95% atm. Mutlitabling right now is kinda difficult as there is not enough traffic but i could try that later.

The service will be available in approx. 5 hours  maybe sooner. Remember I will provide collateral for reputable members as of right now so try me out with some small sum if you are interested Smiley One at a time only.

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I've sent a PM with some corrections to the original post.
Seems like a good deal, I'll probably invest when I get my hands on more Bitcoin Smiley

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July 08, 2014, 12:22:07 PM
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I've sent a PM with some corrections to the original post.
Seems like a good deal, I'll probably invest when I get my hands on more Bitcoin Smiley

Thanks for corrections, very much appreciated as i didnt even have time to read it properly Cheesy I´ll get you some special deal for the help Smiley

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> ...

> this is the insulting robot

> be cautious - op is not a robot!

> op claims to win 95% of the time - why does he need more money?

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> ...

> this is the insulting robot

> be cautious - op is not a robot!

> op claims to win 95% of the time - why does he need more money?



Dear insulting robot i explained it in the FAQ that you clearly didn´t read.

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July 08, 2014, 02:14:40 PM
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As a profitable poker player myself I can call this topic very sketchy and potential scam.

- There is no such thing as "95% winrate". Only someone who does not play poker or is very new to it would say this.
- "don't count cashouts causing my profit to show as only 700$" is complete bullshit.
- There is -definitely- variance in poker, even for the best players, there is no such thing as "guaranteed winnings".
- Therefor "You will earn 45% of what you invest" makes no sense at all.


I have staked others tens of bitcoins in the last year and a normal staking deal does not work like this.

If you are not a scammer, I am sure you are a losing or barely breakeven player with an unsustainable "staking deal".

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July 08, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
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As a profitable poker player myself I can call this topic very sketchy and potential scam.

- There is no such thing as "95% winrate". Only someone who does not play poker or is very new to it would say this.
- "don't count cashouts causing my profit to show as only 700$" is complete bullshit.
- There is -definitely- variance in poker, even for the best players, there is no such thing as "guaranteed winnings".
- Therefor "You will earn 45% of what you invest" makes no sense at all.


I have staked others tens of bitcoins in the last year and a normal staking deal does not work like this.

If you are not a scammer, I am sure you are a losing or barely breakeven player with an unsustainable "staking deal".

Hello,

i understand the concerns - i never believed there was such thing as 95% winrate and propably would never believe it. I have staked players and i have been staked many times (not in bitcoins though). I would never stack anyone if he claimed 95% winrate in regular room like FTP or so. The thing is the players are really low in bitcoin casinos.  There is variance of course and i take that into account by giving you collateral and backing your payment. As a proof of my winrate:

http://imgur.com/OrTPXq8
http://imgur.com/ld1EHZ5
http://imgur.com/q1YSFYz

First picture shows my transactions in the last year so you know I didnt deposit cash months ago. One and only deposit of 30 coins - 0,03 BTC.
The other two show all my tournaments played in two days and you can clearly see that i wouldnt be able to play all those with 0,03 bitcoin. As a last proof i could screenshot my poker wallet but that is really my last resort. Normal staking doesnt work like this because this is not normal staking.

You can double check the transactions in my wallet. I withdraw 0.3 everyday for pizza. I did not guarantee winnings. All i said is that I have solid winrate and for the first few that i guarantee their money back if I Lose. If you think Im a scammer and did all this to scam one person for 6 - 16$ that is your opinion which I accept

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July 08, 2014, 02:46:30 PM
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There is no such thing as "95% winrate". I am not saying it's not possible, it just doesn't exist.

For cash players you would say how much blinds per hour or 100 hands you win for your "winrate".

For tournament players you could say what your ITM % and ROI % is. According to the sharkscope of 'provsk' the ROI is only 0.4% and the ITM 51.2% (simply because that player plays only HU SNGs.)

Even if you are that player, and even if the WPN players are bad (actually not bitcoin casino, betcoin is connected to WPN and most players are from ACR/BCP) Still you will not have 95% ITM or 95% ROI. There has never been any professional poker player that gets that even if they won millions, and neither can you. If you are basing this on the ~40 tournaments you have played, then obviously that is way too low sample to beat the variance.



Either way the things you say make no sense at all and I do not believe at all that you have been staked before. No staking deal works like this.

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There is no such thing as "95% winrate". I am not saying it's not possible, it just doesn't exist.

For cash players you would say how much blinds per hour or 100 hands you win for your "winrate".

For tournament players you could say what your ITM % and ROI % is. According to the sharkscope of 'provsk' the ROI is only 0.4% and the ITM 51.2% (simply because that player plays only HU SNGs.)

Even if you are that player, and even if the WPN players are bad (actually not bitcoin casino, betcoin is connected to WPN and most players are from ACR/BCP) Still you will not have 95% ITM or 95% ROI. There has never been any professional poker player that gets that even if they won millions, and neither can you. If you are basing this on the ~40 tournaments you have played, then obviously that is way too low sample to beat the variance.



Either way the things you say make no sense at all and I do not believe at all that you have been staked before. No staking deal works like this.

Sigh. You know why i didnt put terms like ITM and ROI here? Because nobody would understand. You know why no staking works like this? Because once again this is not normal staking. If I wrote the same things and in the end asked somebody to 50%stake the 360$ S&G or some MTT guess what would happen.

I m doing this to gain trust. I need to start somehow if you have better idea let me know. Getting staked for btc casinos in regular poker forums is kinda hard so thats why i came here.

I dont claim i will have 95% winrate forever. And  i dont claim i can beat variance. First of all i would need thousands of games to even be able to define it in this new enviroment. Once again I AM doin this for trust so i could maybe get REGULARY staked later. I am not making astronomical sums from this.  If you have a better idea how to do it please post it here. I try to be 100% transparent. And please stop stating things i didnt say. I however am thankful for your opinion.

The first run will be today in about an hour as i need to go off now. If you are interested PM me

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According to Betcoin poker , you can show more detailed statistics including win/loss% and amount of chips won/lost.

These would be simple enough for people without knowledge of poker to ascertain your caliber.

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Its not a scam, just an awful staking arrangement.

If there is actual interest for fair tournament staking/shares I may put a thread up now that BCP has actual tournaments running.
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According to Betcoin poker , you can show more detailed statistics including win/loss% and amount of chips won/lost.

These would be simple enough for people without knowledge of poker to ascertain your caliber.


I cant find where the statistics are. I dont think they are in yet. The only thing that I can find is wallet, financial transaction and hand history. I can printscreen this for you if needed.

Service is now online, you can contact me via PM if you are interested, I´ll provide paypal collateral for older members

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Well since nobody came I´ll propably try this one or two more times and just call it there Sad

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Now online again for a second try.

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If you have a decent balance of 100$ + and a real 95% winrate, you can simply play the 16$ room over and over.
You should technically lose one in 20 games , so you would lose 16$ for every 304$ you earn.

I don't believe you will gain trust by providing this service , as many will incorrectly perceive this as a Ponzi.

I'd suggest you close this service and keep the extra 45% of the winnings to yourself. It will end up being more than any trust you will earn.

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July 09, 2014, 02:11:54 PM
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If you have a decent balance of 100$ + and a real 95% winrate, you can simply play the 16$ room over and over.
You should technically lose one in 20 games , so you would lose 16$ for every 304$ you earn.

I don't believe you will gain trust by providing this service , as many will incorrectly perceive this as a Ponzi.

I'd suggest you close this service and keep the extra 45% of the winnings to yourself. It will end up being more than any trust you will earn.
agreed, i may try normal staking later.

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