US ‘kidnaps’ Russian MP’s son to ‘exchange him for Snowden’

[Nemo1024]

US ‘kidnaps’ Russian MP’s son to ‘exchange him for Snowden’
http://rt.com/news/171188-russian-hacker-kidnapped-america/

The US “kidnapped” the son of a Russian MP, possibly to exchange him for Edward Snowden, the father charged. The man was indicted with computer-related crimes by a Washington DC court and snatched from the Maldives.

Roman Seleznyov was detained on Saturday at Male international airport as he was returning to Russia, the Russian foreign ministry said on Tuesday in a statement. He was forced by agents of the US Secret Service to board a private plane to Guam to be later arrested, a move which the ministry called “a de-facto kidnapping.”

[zee11224]

Nothing new, agents do like this all the time.

But I don't it is kidnapping, it is more like arrest.

[Leina]

How accurate is the news? You have another source?

[Nemo1024]

How accurate is the news? You have another source?

http://www.rferl.org/content/us-homeland-security-hacking-seleznyov-russia-arrest/25449250.html

On the other hand:
http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=519051

So no, presumably it's just information wars, until further notice.

[sana8410]

This is the sort of thing you'd expect to read in a fictional book such as 1984 but America has really become a real life police state,
The govt spies on it's people, strips away the constitution, up arms their police to deal with rebellions, shoots their own citizens...

[noviapriani]

The U.S. did this for obvious political reasons. If Russia were to kidnap a U.S. citizen, the US wouldn't care much. They have a decorated US marine, Andrew Tahmooressi rotting in a Mexican prison on BS charges. The state dept. or Obama Admin isn't doing a thing about that. Whilst they let 50,000+ anchor babies through it's borders with utmost care and concern. Shows just how much the US of BSA cares about it's own. It's citizens and veterans are disposable as is evident also with the VA scandal

[chowderman]

It is interesting if this is true, its about time something is done to acquire that little piece of trash Snowden. I doubt the exchange is even needed to apprehend him, but a prisoner exchange makes saving face easier when you can swap criminals. So then when Russian PO's pick him, they won't be nice about it and tool up Snowden pretty good before shipping him to the USA for his trial, so the little bastard can rot in prison forever, with other traitors like Tranny Manning...

[Lethn]

The U.S. did this for obvious political reasons. If Russia were to kidnap a U.S. citizen, the US wouldn't care much. They have a decorated US marine, Andrew Tahmooressi rotting in a Mexican prison on BS charges. The state dept. or Obama Admin isn't doing a thing about that. Whilst they let 50,000+ anchor babies through it's borders with utmost care and concern. Shows just how much the US of BSA cares about it's own. It's citizens and veterans are disposable as is evident also with the VA scandal

If you think that's bad the UK government over here freely extradite UK citizens to the U.S knowing precisely the kind of treatment they'll get, if I knew that the U.S wanted me extradited I'd flee to China or Russia as well since they seem to be the only truly sovereign countries around anymore that stand up to them.

[peeveepee]

The U.S. did this for obvious political reasons. If Russia were to kidnap a U.S. citizen, the US wouldn't care much. They have a decorated US marine, Andrew Tahmooressi rotting in a Mexican prison on BS charges. The state dept. or Obama Admin isn't doing a thing about that. Whilst they let 50,000+ anchor babies through it's borders with utmost care and concern. Shows just how much the US of BSA cares about it's own. It's citizens and veterans are disposable as is evident also with the VA scandal

Most likely Andrew is trying to smuggle weapon across border and get caught.

[TECSHARE]

It is interesting if this is true, its about time something is done to acquire that little piece of trash Snowden. I doubt the exchange is even needed to apprehend him, but a prisoner exchange makes saving face easier when you can swap criminals. So then when Russian PO's pick him, they won't be nice about it and tool up Snowden pretty good before shipping him to the USA for his trial, so the little bastard can rot in prison forever, with other traitors like Tranny Manning...

Hey Chowder, the NSA called and they have that new tracking butt plug you had fitted ready for you. Wear it with pride!

[Nemo1024]

State department calls it not a kidnapping, but legal arrest, according to already ignominious Psaki:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1823363.html

[Balthazar]

State department calls it not a kidnapping, but legal arrest, according to already ignominious Psaki:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1823363.html

Looks like it's time to find a couple of kilograms of heroin in the car owned by son of U.S. Ambassador.

[Ron~Popeil]

This is the sort of thing you'd expect to read in a fictional book such as 1984 but America has really become a real life police state,
The govt spies on it's people, strips away the constitution, up arms their police to deal with rebellions, shoots their own citizens...

It wasn't too long ago that I was a staunch conservative republican that would have called you a conspiracy nut. It real bugs me that i can't disagree and maintain any sense of intellectual honesty. The 2008 bailouts completely changed the way I think about government. 

[Lethn]

This is the sort of thing you'd expect to read in a fictional book such as 1984 but America has really become a real life police state,
The govt spies on it's people, strips away the constitution, up arms their police to deal with rebellions, shoots their own citizens...

It wasn't too long ago that I was a staunch conservative republican that would have called you a conspiracy nut. It real bugs me that i can't disagree and maintain any sense of intellectual honesty. The 2008 bailouts completely changed the way I think about government.  

Well done, you've just defeated propaganda and become a person that can think for themselves, it's sad but there are still people out their who actually blindly think that way, I don't hold anything against anyone who likes democracy and government, but what I can't stand are loyalists who just obey no matter how stupid the command is.

The reason you can't disagree is obviously because it's true, it's like with mathematics, you can't disagree with a recorded historical fact, well unless you're a moron

[rocking1805]

According to Russian sources (I'm Russia) Seleznev is a criminal - he is not just a hacker, he is also a thief. He has stolen really a lot of secret data, so...

[Nemo1024]

According to Russian sources (I'm Russia) Seleznev is a criminal - he is not just a hacker, he is also a thief. He has stolen really a lot of secret data, so...

Then the US should have followed the international law, and not themselves behave like the criminals they are.

There is Interpol. They could have collected all the evidence, submitted it to Interpol with an arrest warrant. Like Russia did against the known terrorist Jarosh.

But the US measures everyone by their own stock, so if they themselves will not respond to international arrest orders, then they think that no one else will. Typical criminal mentality.

[cryptasm]

According to Russian sources (I'm Russia) Seleznev is a criminal - he is not just a hacker, he is also a thief. He has stolen really a lot of secret data, so...

Then the US should have followed the international law, and not themselves behave like the criminals they are.

There is Interpol. They could have collected all the evidence, submitted it to Interpol with an arrest warrant. Like Russia did against the known terrorist Jarosh.

But the US measures everyone by their own stock, so if they themselves will not respond to international arrest orders, then they think that no one else will. Typical criminal mentality.

The US gov hasn't got a good track record when it comes to international law; they kidnap, torture and kill people with impunity.

[DavidHume]

According to Russian sources (I'm Russia) Seleznev is a criminal - he is not just a hacker, he is also a thief. He has stolen really a lot of secret data, so...

Then the US should have followed the international law, and not themselves behave like the criminals they are.

There is Interpol. They could have collected all the evidence, submitted it to Interpol with an arrest warrant. Like Russia did against the known terrorist Jarosh.

But the US measures everyone by their own stock, so if they themselves will not respond to international arrest orders, then they think that no one else will. Typical criminal mentality.

The US gov hasn't got a good track record when it comes to international law; they kidnap, torture and kill people with impunity.

When it comes to law, it is only as good as the law enforcer.

Country/organization with no army should not even bother.

[dank]

Nothing new, agents do like this all the time.

But I don't it is kidnapping, it is more like arrest.

And the difference is...?

[DannyElfman]

How accurate is the news? You have another source?

http://www.rferl.org/content/us-homeland-security-hacking-seleznyov-russia-arrest/25449250.html

On the other hand:
http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=519051

So no, presumably it's just information wars, until further notice.

These sources are not what I would consider to be credible.

If something like this really had happened, or if there was a credible lead on something like this happening, it would likely be all of the MSM