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August 02, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
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Is cure coin dead? Damn!

people only want to help their portfolio
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August 13, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
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Very good project  Smiley

I've started folding proteins and wrote about it on my blog.
http://jpja.net/2014/08/how-counterparty-can-cure-disease/

If I understand correctly FLDC has no value in itself. Where it does add value, however, is that it creates a more efficient way of donating to medical science. Say that I want give a few dollars to the project. I can buy FLDC in Counterwallet's DEX. This rewards the "miner" who earned FLDC initially, thus incentivizing protein folding.

The great benefit is that I, prior to FLDC, had to run the software on my slow laptop, whereas I now can donate to much more effective GPU operators.

Did I understand it right?

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August 16, 2014, 03:22:28 AM
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The value of FLDC will work like any other altcoin, the value will increase as more people obtain them and start to buy/sell them. However we are trying to actively develop this coin to be a MeetUp.com currency so that way it has a real world use, more is to come with this idea in the next few weeks.

As for the incentive to folding, yes, until now if you folded with stanfords program, you only received a stats page that showed how you were doing in comparison to other folders. With a FLDC token it proves you folded and you now have a coin that is transferable to others which in my opinion has more opportunity to become something other than bragging rights.

in the future we will do a crowdfunding opportunity to people giving FLDC for BTC and all BTC will be used to fund our project. currently we are waiting to do this because we have enough funds for the next few weeks and we want it to be more known before we do this.  The FLDC sold in this crowdfunding will be from our personal FLDC because the only way new FLDC can be obtained is by folding.

Just to clarify because i dont fully understand your last part: Folding with us does not make the folding more efficient, but if you fold with us then you receive FLDC in addition to your credits earned through folding.stanford.edu

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August 16, 2014, 03:24:18 AM
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Idea is great, but I think this is unneeded. Curecoin and others are still on.
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August 16, 2014, 03:29:18 AM
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oh and yes, buying FLDC from other people helps to increase the value, which in time will help to increase the amount of people who wish to fold Smiley

The difference between us and curecoin is as follows:

The reasons we feel we have the upperhand on curecoin (and gridcoin) are as follows (also below discribes another grid computing community call BOINC http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ that we initially looked at helping):

Gridcoin (and curecoin) have their own blockchain that they have to upkeep as for FoldingCoin utilizes the CounterParty protocol that is built ontop of Bitcoin. Basically you gain the power of the most secure blockchain that is Bitcoin instead of relying on an Altcoin chain that could potentially be 51% attacked.

I did alot of research on BOINC before going with Folding@Home and although BOINC has some great projects on it, i feel the development behind Folding@Home is much further along and has more stability than a majority of the BOINC project. Also of all the grid computing projects thus far, Folding seems to be the most beneficial to society (that is obviously an opinion though and i do love many of the BOINC projects)

Besides Bitcoin, Folding@Home has the largest grip computing network in the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects and is backed by Stanford University

Since most Bitcoin miners invested primarily into ATI cards, Folding@Home makes it very simple to use ATI for their projects, as for BOINC has alot of NVIDIA projects and CPU projects but not many ATI.

For the general user BOINC is not out of the box, it can be confusing for those that are not tech savvy. Folding@Home however is designed for anybody to be able to download and start Folding right away.

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August 17, 2014, 07:41:15 AM
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So apparently Counter Party lost and/or didn't save the wallet address I created so I lost 26 hours worth of mining. This needs its own wallet NOW.
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August 17, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
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I can't find FLDC in any exchange, even in the Counterwallet crappy internal exchange.

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August 17, 2014, 04:53:54 PM
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Inside your counterwallet on the left side, click on the exchange link  Shocked  On that page you can make buy and sell orders. The more people do that the more exchange options will be available on counterparty decentralised exchange platform that is using Bitcoin's blockchain security.

To be honest, using counterparty to issue the FLDC asset is pretty awesome!



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August 17, 2014, 05:51:30 PM
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So apparently Counter Party lost and/or didn't save the wallet address I created so I lost 26 hours worth of mining. This needs its own wallet NOW.

Counterwallet generates a 12 word seed. You must remember this (ie write it down). It is not saved on any server or on your computer. If you lose the seed you lose your account.
Alternatively you can select a password + custom URL. But the same logic applies: you must remember  password + URL, otherwise you permanently lose access.

You may have typed one word wrongly. Therefore you generated another address when you logged back in.

FLDC can be stored on any Bitcoin address. To view your balance, use blockscan.com. To transfer your FLDC you need to import them to Counterwallet first, which is simple if you know the private key.

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August 17, 2014, 06:33:36 PM
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So apparently Counter Party lost and/or didn't save the wallet address I created so I lost 26 hours worth of mining. This needs its own wallet NOW.

Counterwallet generates a 12 word seed. You must remember this (ie write it down). It is not saved on any server or on your computer. If you lose the seed you lose your account.
Alternatively you can select a password + custom URL. But the same logic applies: you must remember  password + URL, otherwise you permanently lose access.

You may have typed one word wrongly. Therefore you generated another address when you logged back in.

FLDC can be stored on any Bitcoin address. To view your balance, use blockscan.com. To transfer your FLDC you need to import them to Counterwallet first, which is simple if you know the private key.

I setup a quick access code to avoid that issue. Had added a secondary wallet and it was gone. Initial wallet was still there as I had the address copied and it was the same.

Regardless of other wallets that can be used, for this coin to be taken seriously at all it needs its own wallet
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August 17, 2014, 06:47:17 PM
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I can't find FLDC in any exchange, even in the Counterwallet crappy internal exchange.

i think the coin is delisted from every exchange.

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August 17, 2014, 06:52:14 PM
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i will mine this coin looks good!!
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August 18, 2014, 03:05:24 AM
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Do we now have an estimated value in terms of BTC for this cryptocurrency? How about an exchange (outside of counterparty)?
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one another rubbish,no new

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August 18, 2014, 09:07:58 AM
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Inside your counterwallet on the left side, click on the exchange link  Shocked  On that page you can make buy and sell orders. The more people do that the more exchange options will be available on counterparty decentralised exchange platform that is using Bitcoin's blockchain security.

To be honest, using counterparty to issue the FLDC asset is pretty awesome!


There are no orders.

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Thank you all for your support Smiley we now have a code developed that will pay the coins out daily and we will start that this Sunday. Also it is a great thing to not let your GPUs sit idle but rather help support science and with our development coming along, this coins should hopefully be on exchanges soon Smiley


Interest to this project, and i have been folding since yesterday.  Smiley
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How to buy/sell
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Don't waste your time on Foldingcoin

Join us at Curecoin:

1) you can trade curecoins on 2 exchanges Bittrex & Poloniex
2) we have 10x more users if not more (Curecoin vs foldingcoin stats see http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&srt=5)
3) Dev of curecoin is working on curecoin 2.0
4) Curecoin is the original coin

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For those unfamiliar with Curecoin 2.0, it’s the next-generation cryptocurrency our team is currently working on. To clear up some confusion, I’d like to quickly revisit some frequent concerns:
-> Yes, all Curecoin 1.0 (the current version of Curecoin, which you can earn today by folding) will transfer over to Curecoin 2.0 in a 1:1 ratio.
-> Yes, the new Curecoin 2.0 will have a similar mintage schedule, though it won’t be identical. At most, we’re talking about a 5-10% change in either direction, and there will be community discussion leading up to this.
-> We are not yet decided on if/how Proof-Of-Stake will work in the new currency, but all current PoS mining rewards will transfer over to Curecoin 2.0, of course.
-> The codebase is entirely written from scratch
-> Binaries for all major desktop platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) will be available at launch
-> Certificate delivery will be at the discretion of the issuing authorities, but will be subject to community/developer approval and testing
-> A testnet of cc2.0 will be available before release for public testing
-> Development will be more public when we get into the interesting portions of cc2.0, right now we’re just recreating existing cryptocurrencies with minor changes tailored to what we’re specifically building.
-> Addresses will most likely be based on Merkelized Lamport Signatures. This prevents against quantum computing attacks.
-> There will most likely be no ‘mining’ element of cc2.0–all computational power put into the system will be doing actual scientific computational research.
-> If there is to be a method of mining, a Proof-Of-Capacity (Check out Burstcoin) may be a candidate, as it is low-energy, serves the same purpose, and doesn’t interfere with computational power going to research.
-> All undistributed premine (which currently pays out to the folding pool) will be destroyed, as it will no longer be needed.
-> Dev funds will be switched from a premine model to a block subsidy model. Dev funds already paid out will transfer as normal coins.
-> Certificate blockchain will require all full nodes to keep a full blockchain, though future work could be done to create distributed clusters of peers who, when combined, hold the blockchain with parity.
-> Merchant integration will be made easier with a set of easy-to-use ActionResponse listeners, where you tell the client ‘do xyz when <address> gets <amount>’ or something similar.
-> Blockchain scripting will be much simpler and less advanced than Bitcoin, in order to save space, and prevent piggy-backing + blockchain bloat.
-> Transaction messages will be constrained to a traditional ASCII set.
-> The Curecoin developers will only be holding their personal coins, as the new system will distribute coins in a decentralized manner based on computational work.
-> Yes, folding (or other scientific computation) pools are possible, and will be made easy due to the design of the certificate system.
-> The GUI will either include a blockchain explorer, or a downloadable blockchain browser will be a separate application, available upon release.
-> Thin client mode will allow a user to run one internet-connected node, and then use other ‘thin clients’ which sign transactions locally, and then proxy those transactions through the live node.
-> Both a GUI and a command-line daemon will be available upon release for all major Desktop OSes.
-> Adding a university or other research institution will involve both dev consensus and community agreement, as per forum discussions.
-> Research institutions interested in participating in Curecoin 2.0 will need to be doing research which, when completed, is released to the public in full. Most distributed computational networks fit this requirement.
-> Significant community interest in an institution which doesn’t strictly adhere to the above guidelines may be considered, depending on conditions.
-> The inherent motive to behave badly as an institution which is enabled to sign certificates will be reduced by the potential of balance-based voting to remove or suspend signing authorities.
-> Block time will likely be reduced to the 2-5 minute range.
-> ASICs will no longer be useful on the Curecoin network.
-> A certificate’s ability to mine a block can only be determined by the person putting computational work into the network, and not by the issuing authority.
-> All mintage will be most cost-effective on consumer hardware.
-> If New York Bitlicenses both pass and require licensing for Curecoin, Curecoin will simply refuse use for New York citizens, and make a good-faith effort to prevent New York citizens to download or participate in the network.
-> We have no idea what exchange rates will be at release or after release of cc2.0. Investing in cryptocurrencies is high risk. Be careful. Be smart.
-> The only premine will be done for cc1.0 to cc2.0 conversion in a public manner.
-> During the infancy of the currency, it may be troublesome for research institutions to integrate certificate signing. We would be more than happy to help with implementing such a system. Additionally, if a research institution desires to start distributing work but does not have a means of signing certificates, we can act as a temporary signature authority. After a few months of the cc2.0 network running in a stable manner, the goal is for the Curecoin devs to not have any signature authority, nor have access to any private keys for creating signatures for certificates. Ideally, this will be the case from the start.

 

Curecoin 2.0 is rolling into development full-steam-ahead, though the final product is still quite a ways off. I have been working on finishing up the networking aspect of Curecoin 2.0, and the next job to tackle will be blockchain formatting and structure. After that, we’ll establish the standards for certificate creation and verification, flesh out the remaining portion of under-the-hood code, create the GUI (which will likely wrap around the daemon), and create the block explorer.

The P2P networking aspect of Curecoin 2.0 is very similar to existing currencies. Clients can connect to known nodes (which are hard-coded in, and can be added manually by the user) to acquire additional connections. Anyone behind a firewall will have limited connection abilities, as is present today in Bitcoin. Peers constantly chatter about network status, unified time synchronization, etc., and will automatically prune their peerlist for the lowest-latency peers, constantly replacing high-latency peers. In this way, the network automatically optimizes itself for the amount of time taken for all active, healthy nodes to encounter new blocks.

Difficulty retargeting for certificates will be based on a standardized distribution of recent block timestamps weighted for more recent blocks to have more pull.

On release, the devs will provide a number of low-latency, geographically-distributed initial sync nodes on high-performance networks. Blockchain syncing will involve downloading large chunks of the blockchain from a low-latency, high-bandwidth peer, and then verifying hashes and signatures with arbitrary peers.
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August 26, 2014, 03:07:37 AM
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We have been working on getting on exchanges. We have had skype meetings with two different exchanges that see the potential in our coin and Dev team.

As for the issue of having your own wallet, we dont see this as a problem. Since we are built ontop of Bitcoin and CounterParty we will expand with the future products that CounterParty releases. Also this makes for easier integration with Bitcoin wallet services since we share a blockchain.

Another advantage of not having our own chain is the fact that we can spend more time developing uses for the coin rather than stability of the coin since this is covered by the Bitcoin miners and Dev team.

And we have worked extra hard to make sure not to bad mouth CureCoin. They are the original and we respect the idea. We feel the advantages of Bitcoin 2.0 technologies overcome alot of the issues that Altcoins have had in the past. And since we do not have the overhead that CureCoin has another benefit is we do not take any off of the top like they do. Also we do not have to support SHA256 miners, those miners can continue to focus on securing Bitcoin, the most valuable coin of all. If you want to talk about the differences of CureCoin and the advantages they have to offer thats fine, i would be glad to talk, but i ask that you dont start with "dont waste your time on FoldingCoin" as this is not needed.

Blockchain tokens are the future of altcoins, not 300 individually developed wallets that no major players have any plans to create everyday useful apps for. Counterparty, Ethereum, and Mastercoin offer these everyday plans though.

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Completely agree.

You did a great job. Thanks.

We have been working on getting on exchanges. We have had skype meetings with two different exchanges that see the potential in our coin and Dev team.

As for the issue of having your own wallet, we dont see this as a problem. Since we are built ontop of Bitcoin and CounterParty we will expand with the future products that CounterParty releases. Also this makes for easier integration with Bitcoin wallet services since we share a blockchain.

Another advantage of not having our own chain is the fact that we can spend more time developing uses for the coin rather than stability of the coin since this is covered by the Bitcoin miners and Dev team.

And we have worked extra hard to make sure not to bad mouth CureCoin. They are the original and we respect the idea. We feel the advantages of Bitcoin 2.0 technologies overcome alot of the issues that Altcoins have had in the past. And since we do not have the overhead that CureCoin has another benefit is we do not take any off of the top like they do. Also we do not have to support SHA256 miners, those miners can continue to focus on securing Bitcoin, the most valuable coin of all. If you want to talk about the differences of CureCoin and the advantages they have to offer thats fine, i would be glad to talk, but i ask that you dont start with "dont waste your time on FoldingCoin" as this is not needed.

Blockchain tokens are the future of altcoins, not 300 individually developed wallets that no major players have any plans to create everyday useful apps for. Counterparty, Ethereum, and Mastercoin offer these everyday plans though.
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