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July 11, 2014, 07:32:45 PM
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One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Control'
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William Binney is one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever emerge from the NSA. He was a leading code-breaker against the Soviet Union during the Cold War but resigned soon after September 11, disgusted by Washington’s move towards mass surveillance.

On 5 July he spoke at a conference in London organized by the Centre for Investigative Journalism and revealed the extent of the surveillance programs unleashed by the Bush and Obama administrations.

“At least 80% of fibre-optic cables globally go via the US”, Binney said. “This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores.”

More...http://www.businessinsider.com/william-binney-claims-nsa-seeks-total-population-control-2014-7

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July 11, 2014, 10:24:06 PM
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Don't expect their to be any real dispute to this guys claim.  We know they are lying to us and I don't see any real need for this guy to lie.  Far more likely that the NSA is lying and storing stolen information from it's own citizens.  Just my 2 cents.
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July 11, 2014, 11:01:54 PM
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Don't expect their to be any real dispute to this guys claim.  We know they are lying to us and I don't see any real need for this guy to lie.  Far more likely that the NSA is lying and storing stolen information from it's own citizens.  Just my 2 cents.

yes, they are storing information about citizens - and even build tools to use this information.
Basically they want to grab all the data. Of course the NSA won't tell you the truth about it, they are a secret service for a reason.. question is who are they serving?  Wink

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July 12, 2014, 06:35:08 AM
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They did this for 10 years and longer, while certainly not getting in any one's way of excess and moral decay or careerism and success.

Gotta give the man some credit to where credit is due.
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July 12, 2014, 12:39:16 PM
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Anyone know total control is impossible.

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July 12, 2014, 12:41:04 PM
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This story on RT:
http://rt.com/news/172284-nsa-stores-calls-audio/

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Last edit: July 13, 2014, 01:34:51 AM by AnonyMint
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Cross-posting...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7813210#msg7813210

The Global Police State

Global sovereign debt collapse (which means global wealth confiscation, war, chaos, and descending into the economic abyss).\

So ...are you really saying this will ruin every corner of the globe? if not then what portions are you talking about?
It's just that you keep mentioning Europe and America...but that's all you mention but you keep calling it "global".

So...is it global or is it just Europe and the USA?

The nations of the world are today mostly divided into five categories:

1. Developed country western Marxist socialism, government has 75% share of GDP (ditto Europe but worse as the official data excludes cost of regulation and probably local governments, etc!).

2. Developed country eastern Chaebol & Zaibatsu fascism, government has a moderate (but rising rapidly) (Korea also) % share of GDP.

3. Undeveloped world, "government spending" is very low thus a very low % share of GDP because there is no social welfare system.

4. Oil producing countries in the Middle East that will fall into complete chaos.

5. Exceptions.

For #1, include North America, Europe, New Zealand, but perhaps not Australia.

For #2, we have Japan with the world's highest debt-to-GDP levels as the prime example. Asians (but not Cherokee who descend from European not Asian) are more submissive (my hypothesis is perhaps due to lack of Ice Age impact thus larger populations). Japan has an existential fertility crisis. South Korea is on model peaking.



For #3, we have most of the rest of world.

For #4, include all those recently failed Middle East states and Libya and include all those whose economy is nearly entirely dependent on oil and who have burgeoning populations.

For #5, the exceptions to the above list include small transhipment and financial centers such as Hong Kong and Singapore, also Australia and Switzerland have relatively low government share of GDP for developed countries.

Prognosis

The #1 nations will hunt down all wealth to feed their social welfare obligations. The majority will support this. These nations will cooperate, and the NSA + GCHQ will feed the authorities the data they need.

The #2 nations have massive levels of debt in all sectors and will be induced into a war with China to appease the discontent among their people as their economies collapse into 2016 - 2020. The large corporation model of their economies is attuned to war making as a means of increasing industrial production.

The #3 nations have extremely high levels of corporate debt (China the world's highest) because the 30 year bond bubble in the #1 nations drove investment capital out of the west an into developing world corporate bonds to chase yield. They don't have this social welfare system to feed, thus they don't need to hunt down money for revenue (they can let their corporations go bust and survival of the fittest) so they can collapse quickly and bottom by say 2020. But they will hunt down wealth of those cronies in their governments who have pilfered the coffers. You can see this going on now for example as China fired 900 bureaucrats, Thailand in martial law,  and also the pork barrel scandal ongoing in the Philippines. So these nations need the cooperation of the #1 nations to track down and return the ill gotten wealth their cronies have been offshoring to there. Thus they will in exchange will offer to turn over all #1 nation citizens, i.e. see their cooperation with the FATCA.

The #4 nations are imploding into chaos as they are too dependent on oil, their populations are burgeoning, the corrupt top-down control of wealth has been egregious, etc.. They will implode into complete chaos. They thus may be the best place to hide with your wealth, except that you would be at enormous physical risk of harm.

The #5 nations will see their economies implode when the global economy does since they are so highly leveraged to trade and commodity demand. They are fully on board the global police state. Here are few links to convince you:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-26/hong-kong-goes-swiss-will-disclose-american-worker-financial-data-irs
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/22/hunt-for-money-tisa-negotiations-leaked-by-wikileaks/


Thus you can see this hunt for wealth will be global. Only the peons in the undeveloping (developing) world are exempt.

Edit: I didn't cover some exceptions that may not fit (not sure as I don't have time to research every one) the above stereotypes, such as Iceland, Bolivia, and Ecuador. Two of those were countries Snowden was interested in for asylum.

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