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July 11, 2014, 08:39:18 PM
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By stressing the opposite option — reductions in legal immigration — during his campaign against Cantor, victorious economics professor Dave Brat has suddenly given hope to the many members of Congress whose immigration policy vision for wage-earning Americans has been blocked by their parties’ leaders. Echoing themes articulated tirelessly by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., Brat argues for dramatic cuts in future visas for immigrant and other foreign labor, The purpose is to allow the labor supply to tighten, raise wages and make it more likely that employers will recruit from the neglected American populations in today’s economy.

This is a prescription that has worked well in the past. Perhaps the most stunning example was 100 years ago, when the outbreak of World War I abruptly stopped a three-decades-old massive importation of immigrant labor into the United States.

Northern manufacturers responded by aggressively recruiting, training and employing the still-living freed slaves and their descendants. Since the 1880s, manufacturers had virtually ignored this source of workers, preferring to send ships to Europe to bring in immigrants to expand their factories. But 1914 began a domestic people movement from plantations to cities that has been celebrated in literature and art as “The Great Migration.” It was the start of a decades-long mass movement of black Americans into the non-agrarian economy of the nation and the building of a large black middle class. But it happened only after easy access to foreign labor was removed.

Brat’s campaign focused on the current three-decades-long surge in immigration. He views the country’s over-supply of working-age adults — constantly engorged by more than a million new immigrants each year — as offering employers little market-based reason to figure out how to hire from groups of Americans with low labor participation rates.
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Nice historical lesson that even I hadn't considered.
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July 11, 2014, 11:21:07 PM
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HHS SEC: BEDS FOR ILLEGALS CAN COST FEDS UP TO $1K
At a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing Wednesday, President Barack Obama's Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Sylvia Burwell said that beds for illegal immigrant children can cost the federal government up to $1,000 per bed.

While asking the senators to approve the Obama administration's request for $3.7 billion to deal with the border crisis, Burwell said that beds can cost $250 to $1,000, and the supplemental funding was needed so the federal government can enter into more cost-effective contracts.

There have been at least 57,000 illegal immigrant children who have unlawfully entered the country since October of last year, and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said he expects nearly 30,000 more to enter before October of this year. Federal officials have estimated that at least 150,000 more illegal immigrant children will attempt to enter the country in the next fiscal year.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/10/HHS-Sec-Beds-for-Illegals-Can-Cost-Feds-Up-to-1K

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Obama seeks brisk passage of border children funding bill

President Obama’s new border spending request will pay for schooling, health care and lawyers for the unaccompanied illegal immigrant children surging across the border, officials told Congress on Thursday as they pleaded for quick action on the $3.7 billion package.

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said Congress must approve the money this month, saying that if nothing is done before lawmakers leave for a monthlong August vacation, one of his agencies will have to cut its other immigration enforcement in order to hold and transport the children.
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September 03, 2014, 10:49:42 AM
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Change is essence of life, but every change has some meaning. I agree present Immigration system is 100 years ago, so new reforms will resolve and optimize the laws that reflect next 100 years of US people's life.
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September 03, 2014, 07:00:12 PM
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100 years ago, the US didn't have welfare in place where people can abuse it without consequences.

Not trying to put the blame on immigrant. But opening up the border will worsen the situation without welfare reform first.
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September 03, 2014, 09:16:30 PM
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The only thing that's certain is that if any immigration reform is ever passed, the main effect will be to increase the burden of paperwork on legal immigrants even higher beyond the already existing totally absurd levels.
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September 04, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
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The only thing that's certain is that if any immigration reform is ever passed, the main effect will be to increase the burden of paperwork on legal immigrants even higher beyond the already existing totally absurd levels.

Yes... those who break the law are rewarded, while those who want to come to the United States legally undergo endless harassment. In a sane country, an immigrant who is having a Ph.D or Masters will be given preference over someone who can't read or write. However, in the US the reverse is true. Illiterates are welcome, while educated ones need not apply to immigrate.
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September 04, 2014, 10:10:14 PM
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The only thing that's certain is that if any immigration reform is ever passed, the main effect will be to increase the burden of paperwork on legal immigrants even higher beyond the already existing totally absurd levels.

Yes... those who break the law are rewarded, while those who want to come to the United States legally undergo endless harassment. In a sane country, an immigrant who is having a Ph.D or Masters will be given preference over someone who can't read or write. However, in the US the reverse is true. Illiterates are welcome, while educated ones need not apply to immigrate.

Sadly, true. My friend's green card application is currently in process and has been for 2 years. Legal fees approximately $20k, hundreds of hours spent on paperwork, etc. And that's just standard procedure, nothing special or unusual. Meanwhile illegals can just waltz across and are likely to be given "amnesty" with minimal hassle in the next few years. Tens of thousands of foreign students with advanced degrees from US universities, who would prefer to stay and work in the US and generate billions in economic activity, are being sent back to their home countries due to the incompetence of the US immigration system.
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September 05, 2014, 02:20:45 AM
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The only thing that's certain is that if any immigration reform is ever passed, the main effect will be to increase the burden of paperwork on legal immigrants even higher beyond the already existing totally absurd levels.

Yes... those who break the law are rewarded, while those who want to come to the United States legally undergo endless harassment. In a sane country, an immigrant who is having a Ph.D or Masters will be given preference over someone who can't read or write. However, in the US the reverse is true. Illiterates are welcome, while educated ones need not apply to immigrate.

Sadly, true. My friend's green card application is currently in process and has been for 2 years. Legal fees approximately $20k, hundreds of hours spent on paperwork, etc. And that's just standard procedure, nothing special or unusual. Meanwhile illegals can just waltz across and are likely to be given "amnesty" with minimal hassle in the next few years. Tens of thousands of foreign students with advanced degrees from US universities, who would prefer to stay and work in the US and generate billions in economic activity, are being sent back to their home countries due to the incompetence of the US immigration system.

Advanced degrees are meaningless if the holders are not productive and create no value for the society.

The illegal that work on low paying job actually are doing something that will benefit the society.

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September 05, 2014, 05:02:10 AM
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Advanced degrees are meaningless if the holders are not productive and create no value for the society.

Many of the people in question are productive and do create value. Engineers, scientists, researchers, etc. These are the people that fuel today's technology based economy and future growth. Sadly, the process for them to remain and work permanently in the US is often insurmountably difficult and cumbersome, and they return to their home countries. In many cases, the companies that hired them while they temporarily stayed in the US value their skills so much that they open foreign offices just to retain these employees' skills, even working at a remote location. Make no mistake, the US immigration system is costing America billions, not on the low end with issues surrounding illegal immigration of unskilled workers, but on the high end, where the US is missing out on tens of thousands of the world's best and brightest, that would love to work in the US and contribute to its economy, but cannot.
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September 06, 2014, 05:49:16 AM
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Advanced degrees are meaningless if the holders are not productive and create no value for the society.
The illegal that work on low paying job actually are doing something that will benefit the society.

Oh... according to you highly educated people are unproductive, while those cherry pickers are super-productive? May I ask you how they are benefiting the society? By producing dozens of children and claiming thousands of USD every month in child benefits? No wonder that the tech and manufacturing sector in the US is going down the drain.
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