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July 14, 2014, 07:51:50 AM |
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I've been wanting to build a self-regulating meshnet using Bitcoin for a while now. Just put some Bitcoin into your router and it'll negotiate a path to whatever you want through whatever other routers it needs to use. If you end up providing more bandwidth than you take, you can end up financially ahead. You could even think of it as a better way of mining bitcoin, if you're one of those who fixate on the monetary reward without regard for its fundamental necessity to the network.
The problem would be creating local infrastructure to support a thriving network, but that is by no means insurmountable even for individuals a few countryside districts here in germany are doing this(im looking into german Freifunk atm) and the goto program for meshing seems to be Cjdns, according to /r/meshnet (im not quite so sure it is the best choice however)
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July 14, 2014, 07:58:25 AM |
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I've been wanting to build a self-regulating meshnet using Bitcoin for a while now. Just put some Bitcoin into your router and it'll negotiate a path to whatever you want through whatever other routers it needs to use. If you end up providing more bandwidth than you take, you can end up financially ahead. You could even think of it as a better way of mining bitcoin, if you're one of those who fixate on the monetary reward without regard for its fundamental necessity to the network.
I honestly dont know shit about network traffic, but I dont need to to know how important this will be in the long run, and the beauty of our present society is that everyone is able to autodidact if he has a computer and puts his mind to it..
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July 14, 2014, 08:09:46 AM |
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I gave this article a read it was interesting how they talked about cryto-anarchy and the two people who made the Darkwallet code after the fall of Silk road, at the same time they would prefer no government interference and a new system of law where people and cryptos decide the future interesting stuff as they went on a road journey, and I wonder how far it will go as part of the future of Bitcoin developments.
As they said the more they try to trace it the darker it will become.
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July 14, 2014, 09:36:38 AM |
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I've been wanting to build a self-regulating meshnet using Bitcoin for a while now. Just put some Bitcoin into your router and it'll negotiate a path to whatever you want through whatever other routers it needs to use. If you end up providing more bandwidth than you take, you can end up financially ahead. You could even think of it as a better way of mining bitcoin, if you're one of those who fixate on the monetary reward without regard for its fundamental necessity to the network.
This. In places like China this sort of thing is the only way to create a more democratic net that autoroutes past 'service restrictions'
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July 14, 2014, 09:40:01 AM |
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They sure do appear to enjoy press and attention which seems odd for a couple of anonymity-focused crypto-anarchists.
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July 14, 2014, 10:39:43 AM |
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They sure do appear to enjoy press and attention which seems odd for a couple of anonymity-focused crypto-anarchists.
thought the same ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 14, 2014, 01:06:40 PM |
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They sure do appear to enjoy press and attention which seems odd for a couple of anonymity-focused crypto-anarchists.
Good. They need to bring attention to important topics such as these to wake up people and make people think.
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July 14, 2014, 01:32:56 PM |
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They sure do appear to enjoy press and attention which seems odd for a couple of anonymity-focused crypto-anarchists.
Cus they gotta sell off the 50% premine on darkcoin hahahahha
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July 14, 2014, 01:41:38 PM |
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Cus they gotta sell off the 50% premine on darkcoin
hahahahha
What does darkcoin have to do with dark wallet? Dark wallet is not a coin but a free open source wallet. Stop Spreading FUD.
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July 14, 2014, 11:57:11 PM |
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They sure do appear to enjoy press and attention which seems odd for a couple of anonymity-focused crypto-anarchists.
Good. They need to bring attention to important topics such as these to wake up people and make people think. Got around to reading it and it was a fascinating article about anonymity and the battle between government and privacy based folks, although it is a bit amusing that they do enjoy the Press but that's a good thing I guess.
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July 15, 2014, 12:16:56 AM |
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What do you guys think about Monero and CryptoNote in general? I think it plays a legitimate role and solves the privacy issue more efficient that BTC itself. Also, the Monero team is in direct touch with the i2p team, which I trust way more than TOR lately.
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July 15, 2014, 12:21:33 AM |
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... That was an interesting article, bravo! Thanks for posting it. *** For little fishez like most of us there are already tools that we can use that will hide our BTC transaction tracks from all but the most determined and highly skilled trackers: -- buy a used laptop from a pawn shop (pay cash) and use its wifi where you normally never go... -- use TOR (although I personally do not know how, rumor has it that TOR may be compromised anyway) -- use mixing services for your BTC. I like the mixing services bitmixer.io and sharedcoin.com, use both... -- make LOTS of transactions via multiple wallets If you are doing nothing illegal, and the amounts are fairly small, it is hard for me to see anyone getting "caught". Caught for what? I would be concerned about mixing services. Who do you turn to if they abscond with your bit coin? I think funneling it through multiple exchanges converting it to different currencies several times would do the trick wouldn't it? There aren't really any trust less solutions out there currently. Yeah I agree...I'm really not too sure why you would really need to be mixing all your coins at this point in the game (unless you have something to hide). Governments are still ultimately deciding how to regulate BTC. They will need to come to a conclusion on that before they move their goals towards tracking and surveillance.
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July 15, 2014, 03:56:37 PM |
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I would be concerned about mixing services. Who do you turn to if they abscond with your bit coin? I think funneling it through multiple exchanges converting it to different currencies several times would do the trick wouldn't it? There aren't really any trust less solutions out there currently.
Yeah I agree...I'm really not too sure why you would really need to be mixing all your coins at this point in the game (unless you have something to hide). Governments are still ultimately deciding how to regulate BTC. They will need to come to a conclusion on that before they move their goals towards tracking and surveillance. The block-chain record is very public, and very permanent. If you are concerned that at some point in the future Bitcoins may be declared illegal, you should be mixing now. The reason is that you can be traced retroactively. Bitcoin is only pseudonymous, not anonymous. That means that your anonymity can be stripped away by any service that does not respect your privacy (such as an exchange required by law to keep lots of identifying details). CoinJoin transactions are safer than mixers in that they can operate without trusting the mixing service: if you use a new address every time (if two participants try to send to the same address, there is room for cheating).
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July 15, 2014, 03:59:26 PM |
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Personally, I dont have a need to hide my transactions from the public. I mean other than tax evasion why would you need to hide your transactions in the first place? Are you hiring hitmen?
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July 15, 2014, 04:55:36 PM |
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Personally, I dont have a need to hide my transactions from the public. I mean other than tax evasion why would you need to hide your transactions in the first place? Are you hiring hitmen?
Because flaunting your wealth makes you a target. Mixing your coins lets you not worry so much about some mugger applying the proverbial 5 dollar wrench to your body to get at your stash.
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July 15, 2014, 06:18:06 PM |
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We believe this is not the self-interest instead of serving users Bitocoin or business interests to the rich who make up the self-titled Bitcoin Foundation ...
"We do not need to be a company controlled by a madman. Disobedience is the only way."
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July 15, 2014, 06:20:11 PM |
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Personally, I dont have a need to hide my transactions from the public. I mean other than tax evasion why would you need to hide your transactions in the first place? Are you hiring hitmen?
Because flaunting your wealth makes you a target. Mixing your coins lets you not worry so much about some mugger applying the proverbial 5 dollar wrench to your body to get at your stash. I guess that would make sense. Of course im not bitrich therefore that doesnt apply to me.
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July 15, 2014, 06:30:11 PM |
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I guess that would make sense. Of course im not bitrich therefore that doesnt apply to me.
Are you still not bitrich if the value goes up by an order of magnitude like it did in November? Splitting my coins was the single largest transaction I had ever made in my life (ie: over my $1000/day fiat limits).
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July 15, 2014, 06:33:02 PM |
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Anyone with technical skill care to point out if dark wallet concept work?
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July 15, 2014, 08:38:16 PM |
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Thanks for sharing.
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