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July 12, 2014, 05:50:34 AM
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July 12, 2014, 06:15:10 AM
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In 1995 was way harder download the MP3 because of slow internet, and few people had internet.

Do you think the currenct technology will make a huge advance in 20 years, so will be orders of magnitude easier for people use bitcoin, and bitcoin will conquer the world cause of this?

Also MP3 is for free, while bitcoin itself is money, so changing to mp3 is way easier than changing to bitcoin, I must admit
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July 12, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
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There are many forces which dictate whether something thrives or dives - a lot of this has to do with support and backing from influential figures in the industry, then there is the technological infrastructure and the reliance on economical support. There's also legal and ethical forces too.

Of course, demand is the key to how lucrative and ubiquitous something is, but demand can be fuelled by the presence of other forces.

Bitcoin is gathering momentum, but naturally there are setbacks along the way - ultimately it has been successful in some capacity.

MP3 and Bitcoin are the formats, but what is most critical is the technology i.e. digital formats/protocols.

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July 12, 2014, 08:51:36 AM
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I can download just about any mp3 for free. Anyone know a website where I can download any amount of bitcoin for free?
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July 12, 2014, 08:57:59 AM
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I can download just about any mp3 for free. Anyone know a website where I can download any amount of bitcoin for free?

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Good times. I remember swapping floppy disks (you youngsters can look'em up on wikipedia) with new songs for friends to listen to. If you crunched them down below 48 kbit/s you could actually fit more than one song per floppy disk!

When computers got so powerful you could actually decode MP3s in real time, that was really something! You didn't have to first decode them to WAVs before playing anymore which made them infinitely more useful.

I'm not sure what Bitcoin has to do with this, any more than that it is obviously technology which hasn't realised its full potential yet. Perhaps sometime in the future people will say the same about Bitcoins, "I remember when x happened so we got free microtransactions" or "when web browsers integrated payments" or something. Then we should point back to this thread, if the forum still is readable somewhere!
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I hope you're right. I remember downloading my first mp3s and telling all my schoolmates about them and their use spread like wildfire. I think bitcoin and mp3 usuage are very comparable. They both might seem daunting to get used to at first for the uninitiated but you'll soon realise they're pretty easy to get used to. I also hope you're right as we will most certainly be rewarding finiacially if bitcoin becomes as popular as mp3s  Cheesy.

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July 12, 2014, 09:18:07 AM
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...and don't sit down next to me and pretend you don't know what Bitcoin is, when you actually do, because you want the free Bitcoin Smiley


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Well tell me grandmaster what is Bitcoin and give me a free dollar I kid Smiley

That said I agree with what you said it is the mp3 file of AOL days or the internet before it and people going hey what is that I'm scared of it before realizing how useful it is.
Bitcoin is the same so cheers to you for getting the word out, and also tssk they didn't know about mp3s and the same people with Bitcoin lol.

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July 12, 2014, 09:19:22 AM
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Good times. I remember swapping floppy disks (you youngsters can look'em up on wikipedia) with new songs for friends to listen to. If you crunched them down below 48 kbit/s you could actually fit more than one song per floppy disk!

When computers got so powerful you could actually decode MP3s in real time, that was really something! You didn't have to first decode them to WAVs before playing anymore which made them infinitely more useful.

I'm not sure what Bitcoin has to do with this, any more than that it is obviously technology which hasn't realised its full potential yet. Perhaps sometime in the future people will say the same about Bitcoins, "I remember when x happened so we got free microtransactions" or "when web browsers integrated payments" or something. Then we should point back to this thread, if the forum still is readable somewhere!

Wow. mp3 on a floppy disk! I would have never thought that compatible!

I have the vision of jamming a floppy into the cassette deck of a 90s station wagon trying to get the song out.
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July 12, 2014, 09:21:46 AM
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I hope you're right. I remember downloading my first mp3s and telling all my schoolmates about them and their use spread like wildfire. I think bitcoin and mp3 usuage are very comparable. They both might seem daunting to get used to at first for the uninitiated but you'll soon realise they're pretty easy to get used to. I also hope you're right as we will most certainly be rewarding finiacially if bitcoin becomes as popular as mp3s  Cheesy.

The key thing to understand is that MP3 is not music just as Bitcoin is not 'money', as such. They are formats that provide means and terms of transporting information, which has a value in itself.

The difference with Bitcoin is that it is treated a volatile asset, with respect to fiat so there is reluctance from many to get involved, whereas I doubt ever called MP3s a 'scam'.

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Maybe torrenting an mp3 is a better comparison, after all I think that's where the bit part of bitcoin gets it's name. Like the mp3 is the coin and the torrent is the technology that is used to send the file across the world.

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Good times. I remember swapping floppy disks (you youngsters can look'em up on wikipedia) with new songs for friends to listen to. If you crunched them down below 48 kbit/s you could actually fit more than one song per floppy disk!

I used to take a stack of floppys into college to download as many mp3's as I could on my lunch breaks due to their slightly faster connection! zip that shit for maximum music!

Then the zipdrive came out  Grin


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July 12, 2014, 09:37:47 AM
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Good times. I remember swapping floppy disks (you youngsters can look'em up on wikipedia) with new songs for friends to listen to. If you crunched them down below 48 kbit/s you could actually fit more than one song per floppy disk!

I used to take a stack of floppys into college to download as many mp3's as I could on my lunch breaks due to their slightly faster connection! zip that shit for maximum music!

Then the zipdrive came out  Grin



Did compressing the MP3s actually save any space? MP3s use lossy compression so zipping shouldn't be all that effective, if at all. Perhaps the lossy compression wasn't so great in '95 times. Christ, it's just dawned on me that's almost 20 years ago O_O!

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Good times. I remember swapping floppy disks (you youngsters can look'em up on wikipedia) with new songs for friends to listen to. If you crunched them down below 48 kbit/s you could actually fit more than one song per floppy disk!

I used to take a stack of floppys into college to download as many mp3's as I could on my lunch breaks due to their slightly faster connection! zip that shit for maximum music!

Then the zipdrive came out  Grin



Did compressing the MP3s actually save any space? MP3s use lossy compression so zipping shouldn't be all that effective, if at all. Perhaps the lossy compression wasn't so great in '95 times. Christ, it's just dawned on me that's almost 20 years ago O_O!

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Good times. I remember swapping floppy disks (you youngsters can look'em up on wikipedia) with new songs for friends to listen to. If you crunched them down below 48 kbit/s you could actually fit more than one song per floppy disk!

I used to take a stack of floppys into college to download as many mp3's as I could on my lunch breaks due to their slightly faster connection! zip that shit for maximum music!

Then the zipdrive came out  Grin



Did compressing the MP3s actually save any space? MP3s use lossy compression so zipping shouldn't be all that effective, if at all. Perhaps the lossy compression wasn't so great in '95 times. Christ, it's just dawned on me that's almost 20 years ago O_O!

I remember a mp3 being around 2-4Mb which I couldn't fit on 1 floppy, so compressed it. I remember it didn't work every time but it was more to get this one song onto more than one floppy disc, maybe there was minimal compression I dunno lol, I was young! and it worked for me!

damn , before I had the net I would go on BBS's....so so old and I'm not even 32 yet haha.

edit: It might of been Winrar not Winzip.

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That's a nice comparison. I first thought: Hang on! In 1995 I already downloaded tons of songs from Napster. Then I realised that was 1999.

Yes, in 1995 basically nobody knew of MP3 although it had been developed since the early 80ies(! can you believe it?).

If Bitcoin had the same effect on monetary systems as MP3 had on the music market then it truly would be a bit of fresh air to say the least.
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No, this is not comparable. Stop talking about BTC being replaced when it has not even come near its potential.

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No, this is not comparable. Stop talking about BTC being replaced when it has not even come near its potential.

What are you talking about?

The only discussion regarding comparison here is that Bitcoin is a relatively new concept using this implementation and that, in the past, other technologies have gone through quiet times before being gradually adopted to the point where they are so widely used we don't even think about it.

To my knowledge nobody said that it would be 'replaced' - though anything is possible.


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No, this is not comparable. Stop talking about BTC being replaced when it has not even come near its potential.

What are you talking about?

The only discussion regarding comparison here is that Bitcoin is a relatively new concept using this implementation and that, in the past, other technologies have gone through quiet times before being gradually adopted to the point where they are so widely used we don't even think about it.

To my knowledge nobody said that it would be 'replaced' - though anything is possible.


If were talking about MP3 as a device. I rarely see one these days.

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