Do you own a firearm?

[bitgeek]

I live in the EU and knives are completely unrestricted. You can carry a machete or a sword if you want, it just has to be safely wrapped and you can't take it out in public.
Guns are a completely different thing. Although officially it says everybody can get a permit if they do the paperwork and have no criminal past, in reality they just reject 99% of the applications saying that you have to really need the weapon (e.g. for protection). So basically the only way to get the permit is to be robbed, get life threats (the more times the better)  or have a friend in the government.

[sana8410]

The Facts on Women, Children and Gun Violence

presence of a firearm in a home with domestic violence can transform an argument into homicide in a fraction of a second. Firearms and domestic violence are a lethal combination - injuring and killing women, children, and bystanders every day in the United States. In one study of 25 high-income countries, the United States represented just 32% of the female population but accounted for 84% of all female firearm homicides.i A gun is the weapon most commonly used in domestic homicides. In fact, more than six times as many women are murdered by guns used by their current or former intimate partners than are killed by male strangers’ guns, knives or other weapons combined.

332,014 people died from guns between 2000 and 2010. That number is greater than the populations of U.S. cities such as St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati.

31,328 people died from gun violence in 2010, or roughly 1 every 17 minutes.

A gun in the home makes homicide three times more likely, suicide up to five times as likely, and accidental death four times higher than in non-gun owning homes.

Access to firearms increases the risk of intimate partner homicide more than five times than in instances where there are no weapons, according to a recent study. In addition, abusers who possess guns tend to inflict the most severe abuse on their partners.

Over 40 percent of guns sold in the U.S. are done so without a background check.

Gun Violence & Women

94% of female murder victims killed by men are killed by a man they knew. In other words, females are 16 times as likely to be killed by a male acquaintance than by a male stranger. In 2010, 1,017 women, almost three a day, were killed by their intimate partners. viii

Of females killed by men with a firearm, more than two-thirds were killed by their intimate partners.

In 2010, 52 percent of female homicide victims killed by men were shot and killed with a gun. Female intimate partners are more likely to be murdered with a firearm than all other means combined.

Women suffering from domestic violence are eight times more likely to be killed if there are firearms in the home

Domestic violence is the root cause not the gun. BTW most state laws remove firearms from the home of anyone accused or convicted of domestic violence. Now if you have some test that proves domestic violence will occur lets see it.


Murder and Gender

In 2011, the United States Department of Justice compiled homicide statistics in the United States between 1980 and 2008. That study showed the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice
Offenders

    Males committed the vast majority of homicides in the United States at that time, representing 90% of the total number of offenders.
    Young adult black males had the highest homicide offending rate compared to offenders in other racial and sex categories.
    White females of all ages had the lowest offending rates of any racial or age groups.
    The overall offending rates for both males and females have declined since 1990.
    Of children under age 5 killed by a parent, the rate for biological fathers was slightly higher than for biological mothers.
    However, of children under 5 killed by someone other than their parent, 80% were killed by males.
Victims

    Victimization rates for both males and females have been relatively stable since 2000.
    Males were more likely to be murder victims (76.8%).
    Females were most likely to be victims of domestic homicides (63.7%) and sex-related homicides (81.7%)
    Males were most likely to be victims of drug- (90.5%) and gang-related homicides (94.6%).

[Bitcoin Magazine]

gun laws don't matter.  cause u can buy any with Bitcoins

[Rigon]

There would never be any domestic violence... or any other sort of violence... if there were no guns.Didn't you know that?

[sana8410]

gun laws don't matter.  cause u can buy any with Bitcoins

your saying that bitcoin is used to buy bad stuff like guns,but before bitcoin was cash....if you have cash u can buy any gun you want without any law stopping you.

[sana8410]

There would never be any domestic violence... or any other sort of violence... if there were no guns.Didn't you know that?

I've heard that criminals wouldn't use guns if they were illegal but I didn't 'hear that men would stop beating and killing their wives if there were no guns.

[Rigon]

There would never be any domestic violence... or any other sort of violence... if there were no guns.Didn't you know that?

I've heard that criminals wouldn't use guns if they were illegal but I didn't 'hear that men would stop beating and killing their wives if there were no guns.

It's true!  And wives would stop beating and killing their husbands, too!If only we could make all the guns go away.

[Hazir]

I wonder if you can buy firearms with bitcoins? Like real gun, and in legal way? There is a place for that?

[sana8410]

There would never be any domestic violence... or any other sort of violence... if there were no guns.Didn't you know that?

I've heard that criminals wouldn't use guns if they were illegal but I didn't 'hear that men would stop beating and killing their wives if there were no guns.

It's true!  And wives would stop beating and killing their husbands, too!If only we could make all the guns go away.

Well it won't stop prostitutes from shooting their johns up with heroin and then watching them die. Did you see the google exec that o'd at the hands of his prostitute? It happened on his yacht, he  had a wife and 5 kids.

[umair127]

There would never be any domestic violence... or any other sort of violence... if there were no guns.Didn't you know that?

I've heard that criminals wouldn't use guns if they were illegal but I didn't 'hear that men would stop beating and killing their wives if there were no guns.

It's true!  And wives would stop beating and killing their husbands, too!If only we could make all the guns go away.

Well it won't stop prostitutes from shooting their johns up with heroin and then watching them die. Did you see the google exec that o'd at the hands of his prostitute? It happened on his yacht, he  had a wife and 5 kids.

If there were no killer prostitutes, millionaires with a wife and 5 kids wouldn't od on their yachts. 
I own several firearms. I have never killed anything other than a paper target with my guns.  I admit that I have killed thousands of bugs by stepping on them or swatting them with a flyswatter . 

[noviapriani]

Chris Christie's Bizarre Pro-Life Defense Of 10-Bullet Gun Magazine Bill Veto
By John Amato July 9, 2014
Chris Christie's bizarre reasons for vetoing the ten bullet gun magazine bill

I wrote about Joe Scarborough calling the New Jersey governor a chickensh*t because he refused to met with the Sandy Hook families after he vetoed a bill reducing the number of bullets that would be in a magazine, but first I wanted to highlight how he defended himself on the veto because it was so truly off the wall.

    Christie: I've heard the argument so are we saying that the 10 children on the clip they advocate for, that their lives are less valuable? If you take the logical conclusion of their argument, you go to zero because every life is valuable. And so why 10? Why not six? Why not two? Why not one? Why not zero? Why not just ban guns completely?

    So the logical conclusion of their argument is that you get to zero eventually so you know, I understand their argument. I feel extraordinary sympathy for them and the other families and all the families across America who are the victims of gun violence.

What they are saying is by reducing the number of bullets in a gun clip, you're giving maniacs less bullets and less firepower to massacre humans with, Chris. Every life saved is a victory. How he goes from 10 bullets in a magazine to zero is stunning to say the least. Why does anyone need fifteen round magazines is beyond me accept if you plan to be in a war. The lengths in which he ties himself up in knots to defend his veto is mind boggling.

UPDATE: Mark Barden, a parent of the Sandy Hook massacre was very upset that Christie refused to meet with him:

    Nearly a week after Gov. Chris Christie rejected a controversial gun control measureand then declined to meet with the parents of two children gunned down in Connecticut, the father of one slain first-grader described the governor’s reason for turning down a meeting with them as "unfortunate."

    Mark Barden, whose son Daniel, 7, was killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., said he was confused by the Republican governor’s comments on Monday in which he defended his decision to veto the bill intended to reduce the size of ammunition magazines from 15 rounds to 10.



http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/joe-scarborough-calls-chris-christie

[sana8410]

Yes, that's right, blame the NRA and the government for something done by violent sociopaths who clearly had mental problems that needed fixing, there's absolutely no way that someone mental is the problem and it has absolutely nothing to do with the pathetic amount of support the mentally challenged in America have and how psychologists are basically trying to solve the problem by drugging up these people leading to them becoming even more violent and depressed than they were.

Bolded so people get my points about this whole stupid gun control argument.

Many millions of us fought, and some died to protect peaceful, American citizens' freedom and Liberty FROM Government, and the Individual right of EACH American to possess and safely use our guns.

Were this NOT the case, we might have preferred to join the military of a "FREE" nation and leave the Collectivist slime to their own devices, unworthy of any defense.

[umair127]

Just a thought...

Do any of you with American Enemy Obama bumper stickers on your cars expect Americans, those of us with Emergency Medical Training to actually stop at any car wreck in which you may be involved?

Just curious!

[Rigon]

Again, most gun deaths are the suicides you liberals support. Most of the rest are inner-city gangs killing each other, so if you are not suicidal, not a gang member, don't deal in drugs, and you are not a cop, your chances of being shot in America are near zero.

The gun 'crisis', like so many other 'emergencies', is liberal hogwash being used as an excuse to further limit the rights of We, the People. There is no gun crisis, and if you are as smart as you claim you are, then you damn know it.

That's bullshit and has always been bullshit. Unless you live in Chicago you are more likely to be shot by your lover or spouse or someone who knows you. Its the "lawful gun owner' who generally kills his wife and children in their beds....not gang members or criminals.

How many people a year are killed by a "lawful gun owner' who generally kills his wife and children in their beds"? I'll make it easier...what percentage of Americans will not be killed by the " 'lawful gun owner' who generally kills his wife and children in their beds"? 
Show us the stats and prove that there's a 'crisis'!You run your big mouth all the time with wild accusations and hyperbole, but you never prove it. 

Well, I don't want to be hyperbolic or anything:

Houston Crime
4 children, 2 adults shot dead in Spring; prompts hours-long

http://www.khou.com/news/crime

Related:

    Neighbors react to mass shooting in north Harris Countyadd to reading list

 http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Neighbors-react-to-mass-shooting-in-north-Harris-County-266535081.html

SPRING, Texas – Six people were shot dead, including four children, Wednesday afternoon in north Harris County, according to Harris County Pct. 4 deputies.

The incident happened at a home in the 700 block of Leaflet in the Enchanted Oaks subdivision.

Deputies responded to a shooting and found the victims. The sole survivor, a 15-year-old female, told authorities the gunman was on his way to another home to kill more relatives. The deputies beat him to that home.

A three-hour long standoff took place in a cul-de-sac on Countrymeadows near Country Canyon. Neighbors were forced out of their homes as the situation unfolded.

“The sheriff’s hostage negotiators have successfully resolved this,” said Constable Ron Hickman. “He’s removed from the vehicle without incident.”

The victims were ages five to 40. Four children and two adults died. According to authorities, it was a domestic dispute between a man and his estranged wife.

Authorities did not release the victims' identities and did not say how they might be related to each other or the suspect.

“Our hearts go out to the families involved in this tragedy,” said Hickman.

Do 6 deaths out of a population of 330,000,000 represent a crisis? Let's see your 4 kids get shot dead by a guy in a "domestic dispute" (usually is a guy going after an 'estranged' wife and kids or anyone nearby; assorted relatives) and see if you call it a crisis. 

If that's a crisis then certainly 12 dead and 60 wounded in Chicago is a crisis. And that crisis happens just about every weekend. Do you think those gang members care about gun laws or getting their guns legally registered?

Of course it would be a personal crisis, but not a national crisis. It would be terrible and I would be grief stricken, but unlike that liberal lawyer in California, I would blame the shooter, and not use the incident to promote the liberal agenda of disarming America.


Around 30,000 per year are shot to death. Most are suicides, and of the rest, most are gang killings. 30,000 out of a population of around 330,000,000. That means that 99.99909% of Americans will not be killed in a given year.

There is no gun crisis.

There is a gang crisis, but liberals are not interested.

There is also a suicide crisis, and liberals would solve that by licensing doctors to assist in the suicide.

Rose points out that around 1,000 women a year die at the hands of a man. That has been going on since we lived in caves, so girls ought to be taught in schools that if a boy hits them once, he will always hit them. He will not change, and he might eventually kill them, so tell the police and have him arrested. Three arrests for hitting a woman should get him life in prison, where he belongs.

If such men have no gun, they will use a knife or a club. Remember OJ simpson?

[zolace]

Just a thought...

Do any of you with American Enemy Obama bumper stickers on your cars expect Americans, those of us with Emergency Medical Training to actually stop at any car wreck in which you may be involved?

Just curious!

You'd let em bleed to death just because they're political opponents,umair? I think you've been hitting the Palin juice a little too hard this early.

[RodeoX]

Just a thought...

Do any of you with American Enemy Obama bumper stickers on your cars expect Americans, those of us with Emergency Medical Training to actually stop at any car wreck in which you may be involved?

Just curious!

I expect that. WTF kind of EMT decides to uphold their duty to respond based on bumper stickers? And if you are identified as a licensed responder it may be a crime to not render aid.

[zahra4571]

How much in this thread you use firearm for hunting?

[dropt]

How much in this thread you use firearm for hunting?

I just use mine to shoot shit because it's fun.  No hunting.

That said, I have a Ruger 10/22, and a New England BA 0.410 Shotgun.

[IamCANADIAN013]

I don't own any.

Where I am from knives are regulated too.

Regulated how exactly?

In Canada these knives are considered prohibited:

    automatic knives such as switchblades
    centrifugal knives such as flick knives or butterfly knives;
    gravity knives;
    Constant Companion (belt-buckle knife)
    finger rings with blades or other sharp objects projecting from the surface;
    push daggers;
    spiked wristbands;

Do any of those fit into your "regulated" category?

Category 1 weapons - completely prohibited
Weapons in this category are, without exemption, entirely prohibited: both its possession and trade in it. This category includes, among others:

Stilettos (spring blades) blades with lateral projecting blade
Flick knives: knives with protruding blade (with or without spring)
Butterfly knives: knives with a handle that consists of two parts, which can be lifted to the blade back (see note below)
Foldable blades with a total unfolded length above 28 cm
Foldable knife with a blade over a cutting edge has
throwing Stars
Vilmessen and ballistic knives
Bladed weapons which looks similar to an object other than a weapon
Arrows and arrowheads, intended to be fired, which feature cutting parts with the obvious intent thereby to cause serious injury.

Category 4 weapons - possession allowed, not allowed to carry in public
Knives in this category may be in the possession or trafficking. These weapons are not worn. That is, they must be so packed properly during transport that they can not be used for immediate use.

From our range fall under Category 4:

Edged weapons (knives) with a blade more than one cutting edge, provided they do not fall under Category 1.
Notes: * A closed folding knife with a blade over a cutting edge has falls under Category 1 - and is completely forbidden. Note: A zaagtanding is hereby considered cutting edge!
* A knife with fixed blade and more than one cutting edge (eg zaagtanding in the back) falls under Category 4.
Cutlasses, swords, sabers and bayonets.
Objects which, given their nature or context in which they are found, it can be reasonably assumed that they are intended for no other purpose than to bring harm to persons or to threaten - and not covered by any of the other three categories.
NOTE: It is very important that you carrying such a weapon is always well packaged.

Sorry for the poor translation, I am not familiar with all the specific knive related terms in English so I resorted to google translate. Do note the catch-all.

WOW! If I'm reading that correctly, thats a little over the top. So pretty much any knife with a sharp edge is considered a weapon to harm people.

How much in this thread you use firearm for hunting?

Currently, no. I am in the process of taking my course to acquire my hunting license.  I would much rather eat meat that is free from all hormones and antibiotics that they use in factory farms.  Also, it's much cheaper overall.  Getting harder and harder to make it these days, especially with meat prices soaring.

[ABitNut]

WOW! If I'm reading that correctly, thats a little over the top. So pretty much any knife with a sharp edge is considered a weapon to harm people.

Not just knives. A saw is also considered to have a cutting edge. Scissors have cutting edges... Those common items fall into category 4 I guess. So if you're caught "open carrying" a saw in an urban area without trees one could argue there is no other intended purpose than to hurt someone, right?  There is no other use for a saw there, is there?

The same could even be said about scissors... If you're "open carrying" a pair of scissors at a cross road.... Well, there's no obvious purpose for the scissors. You must be a psycho murderer waiting for a victim!

Catch all rules are very open to interpretation and thus abuse. Do you trust your law enforcement and/or department of justice to make the right decision?