NEM is a SCAM !

[From Above]

as we all know utopianfuture was caught having a large amount of sockpuppets in own allegedly fair and egalitarian project and had to go and say good bye re-joining the project with different nicknames (Hi UTOPIA i know u r reading my nifty boy )

now ppl are not talking about this cuz it makes them look like utter hypocrites.  i can talk about it tho.

~CfA~

[darkota]

true true true.

[300]

I feel sorry for the guy. Without him, there would have been no NEM. If he hadn't made that one silly mistake (forgetting to log off), all of this would never have happened.

[wangxin]

I think its true, we wait for long long time.

[nutildah]

now ppl are not talking about this cuz it makes them look like utter hypocrites.  i can talk about it tho.

Shall we not talk about your blatant attempts to push NEM lower in the past? Then you reversing course just hours later?

Seriously you have problems my friend. You'd have better luck manipulating people if you weren't so outright nutty.

[nembit86]

true true true.

you seriously agree with CFA ?  you have mental problems also?

[tokeweed]

I feel sorry for the guy. Without him, there would have been no NEM. If he hadn't made that one silly mistake (forgetting to log off), all of this would never have happened.

wait wait.. what silly mistake?  and what happened?

[lordoliver]

trying to fud NEM again, in order to buy more?

[nutildah]

I feel sorry for the guy. Without him, there would have been no NEM. If he hadn't made that one silly mistake (forgetting to log off), all of this would never have happened.

wait wait.. what silly mistake?  and what happened?

He was arguing about some other coin under a different account name, forgot to log out and change IDs once and accidentally commented with his UtopianFuture account, exposing the fact that he had created sock puppets to help promote NEM.

Later he admitted to having "a few" sock puppets, but that hardly means that "NEM is a scam."

I have to admit the way he handled stepping down was pretty honorable. Meanwhile we all just booed and threw tomatoes at him.

But the real point here is you should ignore everything C freakin A has to say. He is nuts.

[atoni]

as we all know utopianfuture was caught having a large amount of sockpuppets in own allegedly fair and egalitarian project and had to go and say good bye re-joining the project with different nicknames (Hi UTOPIA i know u r reading my nifty boy )

now ppl are not talking about this cuz it makes them look like utter hypocrites.  i can talk about it tho.

If the devs r smart they will rebrand NEM. This coin has nothing to do with "fairness" (UF ruined his own idea) nor with "new" movement (noone explained what is new in repeating scheme invented by FrictionlessCoin). Frankly saying, the devs don't have a choice, if they stick to the original name and idea they will show that they endorse scam initiated by UF. I call it scam, coz NEM has nothing to do with bringing economy back to people unless we r talking about those chosen ones who will control a quarter of all the coins.

~CfA~

Instead of focusing on NEM, NXT developer Come-From-Above should at least stop spreading lies about Nxt. Their web page still says its the fastest crypto while Ripple which was made 1 year before Nxt is at least 150 times faster (thats not 150% but 150 times faster).

Edit: it also says there is no fees for asset exchange despite charging even for placing or removing orders which is unheard of in financial world (not to even mention that you are paying for order to be placed in almost 5 minutes which is also unheard of in financial world (so much about speed).....and I am not even gonna go into fact that over 95% of assets listed there are created by devs with only intent to scam people for money......everyone go buy some nxt and buy google and facebook and apple on their exchange, I heard that general electric, coca cola and procter and gamble are coming too! rofl)

[isvicre]

All NXT clones are scam.

[atoni]

All NXT clones are scam.

That should go into some NXT clone thread, this is about NEM.

[Kiloday]

Instead of focusing on NEM, NXT developer Come-From-Above should at least stop spreading lies about Nxt.

I'm pretty sure Come-from-Above isn't a Nxt developer. Perhaps you meant Come-from-Beyond.

[TaunSew]

Instead of focusing on NEM, NXT developer Come-From-Above should at least stop spreading lies about Nxt.

I'm pretty sure Come-from-Above isn't a Nxt developer. Perhaps you meant Come-from-Beyond.

Both are from Russia and have atrocious spelling and tend to troll, so it's possible, although I have a list of accounts who I have associated with CFA - many of them have similar spelling, trolling behavior and a tendency to name themselves after reputable developers.

[atoni]

Instead of focusing on NEM, NXT developer Come-From-Above should at least stop spreading lies about Nxt.

I'm pretty sure Come-from-Above isn't a Nxt developer. Perhaps you meant Come-from-Beyond.

Both are from Russia and have atrocious spelling and tend to troll, so it's possible, although I have a list of accounts who I have associated with CFA - many of them have similar spelling, trolling behavior and a tendency to name themselves after reputable developers.

And they are both obsessed with NEM.

Edit: although with such pretty girl on NEM page I can understand their obsession with NEM. Maybe community should donate some WankCoins to them so they can put them to good use.

[nutildah]

I feel sorry for the guy. Without him, there would have been no NEM. If he hadn't made that one silly mistake (forgetting to log off), all of this would never have happened.

wait wait.. what silly mistake?  and what happened?

He was arguing about some other coin under a different account name, forgot to log out and change IDs once and accidentally commented with his UtopianFuture account, exposing the fact that he had created sock puppets to help promote NEM.

Later he admitted to having "a few" sock puppets, but that hardly means that "NEM is a scam."

I have to admit the way he handled stepping down was pretty honorable. Meanwhile we all just booed and threw tomatoes at him.

But the real point here is you should ignore everything C freakin A has to say. He is nuts.

Regardless the sock issue is unsubstantiated.  There is 4 billion NEM versus 1 billion NxT.  A NxT whale acquired 40 million NxT in October for 1 BTC.  To have the same equivalent power in NEM you would have to create 160 sockpuppets (to receive the equivalent of 160 million NEM).

  For argument's sake if anyone wanted any semblance of control then they would have to create minimum 500 socks to get 15% of NEM.  That's 500 times of bypassing taint analysis, bypassing the anti-spam features on this forum, et cetera, all for a coin which had zero value back in January.

 Even if he did do that - there's dozens of coins out there where the developer takes more than 15% for themselves.  As well, even though UF may had been the organizer, anyone technically could had done it if that was their motivation.

this being said this is all hypothetical - no one ever submitted proof that anyone has more than 5 sock-puppets.  As well taint analysis never revealed anyone with more than 5 socks.  The NODE coin team, which involved their own taint analysis, weren't able to find any sock masters with more than 5.

Granted that's 5 times more than the average participant but the number of those sock masters is very small (IIRC less than 4 in NODE's case) and it doesn't change overall distribution and I doubt any sockmaster intends on being a long term holder.

That being said, given the current value of NEM and the supposed future value of NODE, if another NEM-styled call for participation were started today then yes people would probably abuse it and create 200 sockpuppets.

We had this argument 5 times already. And I wasn't even trying to argue about anything this time, just trying to provide a fair summary of past events.

[nutildah]

We need to stop bumping this idiot's thread.

[isvicre]

Isnt' nem clone of nxt?

[atoni]

Isnt' nem clone of nxt?

No.

[From Above]

Isnt' nem clone of nxt?

No.

NO nem is not a clone

~CfA~